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    what does that have to do with RBG wanting to work longer?
    rmt typifies the ignorance-based confusion and faulty so-called thinking by the rightwingnutjob crowd

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    Both topics deal with old people. Therefore they belong in the same thread

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    what does that have to do with RBG wanting to work longer?
    I don't think some posters care what RBG WANTS:

    but seriously, this stupid for not stepping down when Obama had a senate majority.
    Yeah, she ed the dems on that one.

    But to be fair, media said Hillary was gonna run away with the election
    She was playing with fire by waiting either way, especially since the Republicans were always heavy favorites to take the senate in 2014.

    This is why the Republicans are better than the Dems at winning. Sandra Day O’Connor stepped down over 10 years before she needed to to ensure that she had a Republican president choosing her replacement before the Dems took the senate in 2006.
    Is it too much to ask for 2 more years out of her? hang the on for dear life.
    You'll probably need at least four based on the Democrats performance in the senate races on Tuesday.

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    I am mocked for wanting to raise SS age (to 70), but some posters want RBG to work until there's a Dem President and Senate (and she's 87-89).

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    I am mocked for wanting to raise SS age (to 70), but some posters want RBG to work until there's a Dem President and Senate (and she's 87-89).
    Are you trying to argue RBG is an accurate representation for how long people work?

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    Are you trying to argue RBG is an accurate representation for how long people work?
    or that if she opts to work for 90 years then everybody else should be forced to be 90 years old before collecting SS checks?

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    I am mocked for wanting to raise SS age (to 70), but some posters want RBG to work until there's a Dem President and Senate (and she's 87-89).
    she can opt to work however long she wants. she can work till she's 110.

    that doesnt mean the whole population needs to have their retirement age to be mandated at 110 years.

    i'm not against raising SS age (having it indexed to average life expectancy in some way)... but its ludicrous to tie that argument to somebody who opts to work longer than others

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    I'm not stuck on 70 - it's just the next round number - I think it's currently 67? for those born after 1960? I just think it should be raised - we are all living longer - I don't think the program was originally intended to fund people for so long.
    That doesn't explain why you want it to be 70. Unless you just don't like people getting a ss check.

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    she can opt to work however long she wants. she can work till she's 110.

    that doesnt mean the whole population needs to have their retirement age to be mandated at 110 years.

    i'm not against raising SS age (having it indexed to average life expectancy in some way)... but its ludicrous to tie that argument to somebody who opts to work longer than others
    Oh so you don’t think that the anecdotal example of one person working into her mid 80s should mandate what the age for SS is?

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    i'm not against raising SS age (having it indexed to average life expectancy in some way)...
    Why would you be for it?

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    rmt really is the female Wild Cobra

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    I don't care how long RBG works - she should work as long as she WANTS - not based on which side has presidency and senate. It's just the hypocrisy on this board. When I mention raising the SS age (in order to save the program as it's predicted to have reduced benefits in 2028?), I am mocked. But when some posters are ragging on RBG because she didn't retire earlier or want her to hang on until there is a Dem president and senate, nary a word of criticism.

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    I don't care how long RBG works - she should work as long as she WANTS - not based on which side has presidency and senate. It's just the hypocrisy on this board. When I mention raising the SS age (in order to save the program as it's predicted to have reduced benefits in 2028?), I am mocked. But when some posters are ragging on RBG because she didn't retire earlier or want her to hang on until there is a Dem president and senate, nary a word of criticism.
    You’ve yet to explain what one has to do with the other.

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    I don't care how long RBG works - she should work as long as she WANTS - not based on which side has presidency and senate. It's just the hypocrisy on this board. When I mention raising the SS age (in order to save the program as it's predicted to have reduced benefits in 2028?), I am mocked. But when some posters are ragging on RBG because she didn't retire earlier or want her to hang on until there is a Dem president and senate, nary a word of criticism.
    Do they carry granny smith oranges in your world

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    Do they carry granny smith oranges in your world
    My world is just fine, but (sometimes) the echo chamber in here makes me weary.

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    Boutons wants to lower the social security age to 35 iirc

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    Why would you be for it?
    i think it should generally be indexed against life expectancy in some way. they chose 65 as the age of retirement at a time when life expectancy was 61 ... as of 2017 life expectancy was at 79

    now i'm not saying it should be exactly scaled to what it was in the 30's, but i do think those changes should be reflected better than they have now

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    rmt really is the female Wild Cobra
    That's because it's Wild Cobra's troll.

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    When I mention raising the SS age (in order to save the program as it's predicted to have reduced benefits in 2028?)
    Well you're saying you want to reduce benefits now so as not to reduce benefits later. But why reduce benefits at all when raising the income cap and slightly increasing payroll tax (like a 2% increase spread out over the next 20 years, that's 1 % for employee and 1% for employer) would set the program up for the next 100+ years.

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    Well you're saying you want to reduce benefits now so as not to reduce benefits later. But why reduce benefits at all when raising the income cap and slightly increasing payroll tax (like a 2% increase spread out over the next 20 years, that's 1 % for employee and 1% for employer) would set the program up for the next 100+ years.
    this guy thinks raising taxes can solve a problem

    what a loon

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    i think it should generally be indexed against life expectancy in some way. they chose 65 as the age of retirement at a time when life expectancy was 61 ... as of 2017 life expectancy was at 79

    now i'm not saying it should be exactly scaled to what it was in the 30's, but i do think those changes should be reflected better than they have now
    That's some bs certain types (libertarians) on my side like to spout. That's life expectancy from birth. The big increase in lifespan is due to people being more likely to survive childhood. Things haven't changed all that much for lifespan after reaching adulthood.

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    this guy thinks raising taxes can solve a problem

    what a loon
    I think the middle class needs to pay more, I've been consistent about that for years.

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    That's some bs certain types (libertarians) on my side like to spout. That's life expectancy from birth. The big increase in lifespan is due to people being more likely to survive childhood. Things haven't changed all that much for lifespan after reaching adulthood.
    what are the numbers for that, out of curiosity?

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    SnakeBoy this seems to have some good numbers

    https://www.cleveland.com/datacentra...r_65-year.html

    as of 2014, a 65 year old is expected to reach 84.3 years... whereas a 65 year old in 1950 was expected to reach 77.8

    thats still close to a 7 year difference. paying somebody SS for 13 years as opposed to 20 years is a pretty big deal... thats a 50% increase

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    SnakeBoy this seems to have some good numbers

    https://www.cleveland.com/datacentra...r_65-year.html

    as of 2014, a 65 year old is expected to reach 84.3 years... whereas a 65 year old in 1950 was expected to reach 77.8

    thats still close to a 7 year difference. paying somebody SS for 13 years as opposed to 20 years is a pretty big deal... thats a 50% increase
    What about boutons plan to lower the age to 35?

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