Barring Lucking Into A Superstar In Draft, Spurs Will Be A Treadmill Team Until Pop/Buford Retire

[J_Paco]

The fear of not getting a superstar doesn't concern me, it's their complete ignorance of the direction of the league that concerns me..

All the top teams are looking for 3-point shooting, length and athleticism, while the Spurs are relying on mid-range Js and still playing guys like Belinelli and Mills together

Pop is getting close to what Phil Jackson became with the Knicks, the difference is that nobody is paying attention to SA..

Except Pop won't demand they play only one offensive system/set, undermine his best players in the media or spend half his time away from the team.

Pretty stupid to compare Pop and this current team's makeup to the disastrous situation Phil left New York in. I get the need for hyperbole, though.

[J_Paco]

You were told this 5 years ago by a wise poster yet, you chose to turn a blind eye. You called them a GOAT FO when the only thing GOAT about this FO was choosing Tim Duncan over Keith Van Horn ( not a difficult decision unless your totally incapacitated and making decisions through a series of body twitches and wet farts). Tony Parker was all Sam Presti and before you say b-b-but Ginobili, the Spurs passed over him in the 1st round and even traded away the pick. So much for knowing something that nobody else did. They got inherently lucky.

RC Buford even mentioned that he didn't think Luis Scola's skills tanslated well to the NBA though that could have been a cheap way of saying we don't want to pay the buyout. That was after trading him to Houston for a player who wanted out of the NBA ( Vassilis Spanoulis) and a draft picked that turned out be De Colo.. Should have seen the Mujiri ether coming from a mile away.

Pop is basically Jerry Sloan at this point in his career. He's too old and stuck in his ways to make the nessessary changes to compete at a high level in today's NBA. It makes it even worse when that coach who's to old and past his prime is also the head of basketball operations.

You truly are a moron. Lucky doesn't help you draft/acquire 4 HOF players, win 5 championships, etc.

You are just a spoiled baby. If it so "easy" and based on "luck" why are you and TD21 managing in the NBA?

[Hoops Czar]

You truly are a moron. Lucky doesn't help you draft/acquire 4 HOF players, win 5 championships, etc.

You are just a spoiled baby. If it so "easy" and based on "luck" why are you and TD21 managing in the NBA?

David Robinson and Tim Duncan were not difficult decisions. They were consensus unanimous #1 selections. Tony Parker was all Sam Presti and Ginobili was the last or second to last pick of the second round. If they thought he was something special, they wouldn't have picked Leon Smith in the first round of the 1999 draft.

[Kobe Pop]

Agree with the OP. Teams need multiple superstars to win. I'm only one superstar.

[Leetonidas]

My God how many threads with people complaining about the same stuff do we need lol

For real. Like we really needed another thread specifically for your thoughts OP

[vander]

is there anyone left here who still believes in PATFO?

[Clipper Nation]

I'm a Raiders fan, arguably the worst NFL franchise of the last 15 years. And I feel significantly better about the Raiders' future prospects than I do about the Spurs tbh...at least they'll probably have a chance at a championship within the next 5-10 seasons.

Sorry, man, but Gruden's going to run that franchise into the ground. His answer to everything is more washed-up vets.

[J_Paco]

David Robinson and Tim Duncan were not difficult decisions. They were consensus unanimous #1 selections. Tony Parker was all Sam Presti and Ginobili was the last or second to last pick of the second round. If they thought he was something special, they wouldn't have picked Leon Smith in the first round of the 1999 draft.

Sure, pull all the "reasons" (sounds like excuses) out of your ass.

The results speak for themselves not you and your "reasons" why they drafted/acquired 4 HOF'ers (Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker & Kawhi Leonard) and won 5 NBA championships.

[acoelho1]

There is no luck when it comes to the Spurs and the Spurs fans are so spoiled. The Rockets have a MVP and they are no closer to a championship than we are. We have 2 young talents in Murray & Walker with the former headed toward s om if he comes back to full form. Everybody keeps praising Presti but OKC has 1 finals appearance and still no championships. Patience is key here and let’s see what we have and continue to draft young talent which we’ll have 2 draft picks next year.

[J_Paco]

There is no luck when it comes to the Spurs and the Spurs fans are so spoiled. The Rockets have a MVP and they are no closer to a championship than we are. We have 2 young talents in Murray & Walker with the former headed toward s om if he comes back to full form. Everybody keeps praising Presti but OKC has 1 finals appearance and still no championships. Patience is key here and let’s see what we have and continue to draft young talent which we’ll have 2 draft picks next year.

These two are spoiled and irrational, so talking sense - or having perspective towards the current roster/situation - into them is fruitless.

[Hoops Czar]

These two are spoiled and irrational, so talking sense - or having perspective towards the current roster/situation - into them is fruitless.

And calling two young talents in Murray and Walker headed for s om isn't irrational? Show me the proof of that. Jesus, you're thick!

[JakeCuenca]

I knew somebody would say this, but the difference between them and many others is, 1) They literally traded into being a treadmill team, 2) The process to getting off of it, is all wrong. From where they're likely to pick in the next few years to the current roster and style of play. It's completely tone deaf. And the young talent they do have, I don't even trust them to develop it in a modern way.

Ideally, I'd like to see the two senile fools who've ran them into the ground retire in short order, but that's not happening.

You must be really tired of reading Spurs Vanilla fans...How dare you question

[JakeCuenca]

And calling two young talents in Murray and Walker headed for s om isn't irrational? Show me the proof of that. Jesus, you're thick!

But PATFO developed Kawhi..We gonna make Loonie into kawhi 2.0

[K...]

Lot of Sam presti fans here

[JeffDuncan]

And calling two young talents in Murray and Walker headed for s om isn't irrational? Show me the proof of that. ...

Murray made the All-Defensive team, so that's a good beginning toward s om

Walker is unproven, of course.

[tbdog]

One important aspect people need to realise is that this team isn't built post trade. This off season will have a more balanced team.

[acoelho1]

And calling two young talents in Murray and Walker headed for s om isn't irrational? Show me the proof of that. Jesus, you're thick!

Maybe read what I actually wrote. I said Murray is headed to s om and of course Walker is unproven but athletically gifted.

[Hoops Czar]

Murray made the All-Defensive team, so that's a good beginning toward s om

Walker is unproven, of course.

If Murray could shoot three's, he'd be the Robert Covington of point guards. He can't shoot and he can't consistently run an NBA offense, two traits needed to be an everyday PG in the NBA. He's still unproven in my book.

[bklynspursfan]

If Murray could shoot three's, he'd be the Robert Covington of point guards. He can't shoot and he can't consistently run an NBA offense, two traits needed to be an everyday PG in the NBA. He's still unproven in my book.

He was working on it a ton this summer. We don't know if it would've panned out, but it's something he knew he had to add to his game. Especially with DD coming. Unfortunately he got hurt, but he has shown great work ethic so far.

[TimmyBuckets]

lol so many whiners on here. Just be happy OP, that you had the greatest player of his position, one of the greatest coaches of all time, and 5 rings. Relax and enjoy the show. No need for a soliloquy.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's not Pop's and RC's fault. They didn't expect the guys to be mental midgets.

And yet, these guys continuously miss rotations and leave the 3-point line wide-the- -open.

Then they don't have the mental toughness to actually make wide-open shots themselves.

The squad is mentally ed. Soft for real this time.

Pop and RC did up pretty bad paying Patty and Pau though.

[Ice009]

Pop and RC did up pretty bad paying Patty and Pau though.

I still wonder if these two re ed signings over Simmons and Dedmon cost them Kawhi. If this is where Kawhi and his uncles idea to leave started, it just makes these signing all the more worse.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Could I get a cold beer and a double shot of whiskey... Thanks...

[SpursGenius]

Senile Hack loves playing garbage Mills and Forbes. The backcourt should be Lonnie Walker when he is healthy and Derrick White. Rudy Gay, Lamarcus , DD front court. Let’s see what that lineup can do as it’s the most athletic lineup we can put up. Career ender to Mills would be nice. Bryn off bench with Bertans, poetl, belli. Poindexter. Gasol for his 15 min here and there and dump the sucker at end of season. Hopefully senile cancer retires after season to fully concentrate and sabotage team USA. Watch premier nba players not want to play for senile hack. Second tier players may play.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I wish LaMarcus liked the post. His body is a waste and his shot doesn't make up for not trying in the paint anymore. The decision not to work the post is just pure stupid/ignorance. Dude wants to throw up jumpers and lose forever. I don't get it.