This makes no ing sense
The Spurs results are an anomaly if you consider all teams since the inception of the NBA, and that the Spurs have done this with basically one superstar who, for the most part, was not putting up superstar numbers for a good portion of his career. What other coach has accomplished so much with so little?
This makes no ing sense
Coaching probably helped them to get their pushed in during that series, with all the intentional fouling and Pop's "look at me" . However every team eventually loses.
Mark Jackson was getting his ass kicked in early rounds. This is the same team that won 73 games under Steve Kerr. All Steve had to do was recognize they had the fewest passes per shot in the league. Kerr made them the team with the most passes per shot. Ball movement is key. Coaches have to recognize that and get away from their "I'm going to make you like I was" mantra. This is why coaches who were good players are often ineffective - they are player focused and look for superstars.
How's the system working now that they don't have hof players in Timmy,manu,tp9,kwitter? Talent matters more in the nba than in any other bball league. You wont win if you dont have top 5 nba talent. Of all the teams that have ranged during the last 20 years I could only think of the 2004 detroit pistons that didn't have a top 5 talent leading them on, but they had allstars in rip, chauncy, wallace and big ben leading them on. Not exactly the brin forbes of the league.
They aren't bottom of the pack and it's too early to tell otherwise.
All Stars are voted in based on their team success during the RS. It's not an endorsement as to the overall talent of that player, else he'd continue being an all star. Kobe was voted in while he didn't even suit up, just like Yao Ming.
It's time to retire to the antiquated system angle. Who in this Curry/Durant decade publicly uses the word "system" anymore? None of the players use it, none of the blog boy journalists use it, none of the coaches talking to reporters about how they use their players use the term. It's a player's league more than ever.
Who on the 2014 spurs was a top five talent?
Any= any other coach
And no, I don't know if a coach like Isiah Thomas would have led that Spurs roster to two consecutive NBA finlas.
But there are many others that I think could have, like Brad Stevens, Budenholzer, Quin Snyder, etc.
Tp9 was considered behind lebron in 2013 as an mvp candidate. Was supposedly the best point guard in the league according to nba analysts in 2013/2014. Winning 2014 fmvp makes kawhi into a superstar, thus a top 5 talent. Manu and td21 had resurgence years. They were not exactly a bunch of scrubs that won a le.
So Andre Iguodala was a superstar in 2016? Odd that he wasn't voted into the AS game.
All coaches that have never led a team to the Finals. One is a Pop disciple. There's a reason the rest of the league is adopting the "system" and hiring Pop disciples.
All coaches that never had a roster as talented as that Spurs team.
Exactly. Pop got Manu in as an individual.
No, Manu got himself individually winning Euroleague MVP and being the best player of the team that beat US for the first and maybe only time.
If anything, Pop took away from Manu's individual accomplishments when he made him a 6th man. A decision that probably no other coach would have taken.
Parker wasn’t top five.
Kawhi wasn’t top five. He won finals mvp because the spurs won the finals. Was billions top five in 2004?
Duncan wasn’t top five.
ginobily wasn’t top five.
Nobody said the spurs were scrubs. They just didn’t have any top five players like you claimed is a must to win les.
In fact, I’m not even sure you can put anyone on the 2008 celtics as a top five then. But you can argue that.
You're just going to "nuh uh" regardless of the evidence against your re ed take.
Yet nobody ever heard of the mother er. 57th overall.
Wasn't tp an mvp candidate during the 2012-2014 seasons that fueled those spurs teams and helped got them those 60+ wins? And kawhi was already considered by many analysts as the top perimeter defender and a future superstar by many in nba circles and spurstalk. Thats 2 players in the top 5. Never said duncan or manu were top 5 during those years, but they had good years.
I don't know if billups was considered a top 5 player but he was considered a top 3 point guard behind nash and jkidd during those years. They also had two top defensive players in wallace bros and i think ben was a dpoy winner that year. Dont forget rip was an allstar also.
I'm giving you simple, easily comprobable facts. The are you talking about?
Tell me which of those coaches I named had the chance to coach a team as talented as the 2014 Spurs? I'll wait.
Basketball folks heard about him in '02 and '04 just fine, tbh.![]()
"a roster as talented as the Spurs team" is not a factual remark. It's both nebulous and based on opinion. How can anyone disprove "as talented as"? I can show you what most of the players on that roster did before and after the Spurs. You'll dismiss it.
It was all Manu, tbh, knowledgeable basketball people knew this...
I’m not even sure what criteria you are going on. Parker was number 12 in mvp awards share in 13-14. That’s pretty far from number five.
As for Kawhi, which part of up and coming star means top 5 player? Is doncic a top five player now?
YOU said the pistons didn’t have any top five players in 04 and you are now trying to argue against it? What the is wrong with you?
My 38-44 projection not looking so bad now
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