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    dunno about the rights involved and all that, but would they be able to pick up and continue the same versions on Disney+?
    I believe Disney has the rights to all the characters and stories. Netflix just owns the episodes they produced for a period of time.

    Just from looking at a list of exclusive programming on Disney+, it's very family oriented. It might make more sense to move the more adult Netflix shows to Hulu. Get the streaming rights to Agents of Shield back and it becomes one-stop shopping for every Disney/Marvel TV show made. Logically the movie tie-in shows can stay on Disney+, where all the movies will be.

    But it could be all academic. Who knows what the fallout will be from the upcoming merger and all the programming platforms Disney will then own? It's a lot of stuff.

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    Yeah, everything has to be moving to Disney+. The shows -- even Iron Fist now -- are too good to just let die with all that programming to fill. They're all going to be cheaper than the Loki-type series they have been discussing and have their own continuity.

    If you think about Netflix's business plan, that's just a ton of content they have been buying and producing. It's tough to have a focus on anything the way they acquire and release shows and movies. Everyone knows when stuff is coming out on the networks -- basically three windows every year. Netflix? Check the algorithm, I guess.
    Will Disney's PG13 service really have Daredevil, Punisher, or Jessica Jones? I think it's much more likely to be on Hulu since they bought a bigger stake there recently if at all.

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    I believe Disney has the rights to all the characters and stories. Netflix just owns the episodes they produced for a period of time.

    Just from looking at a list of exclusive programming on Disney+, it's very family oriented. It might make more sense to move the more adult Netflix shows to Hulu. Get the streaming rights to Agents of Shield back and it becomes one-stop shopping for every Disney/Marvel TV show made. Logically the movie tie-in shows can stay on Disney+, where all the movies will be.

    But it could be all academic. Who knows what the fallout will be from the upcoming merger and all the programming platforms Disney will then own? It's a lot of stuff.
    gotcha thanks

    i really hope they pick them up... daredevil easily has enough juice to continue on its own. maybe they should just combine cage/fist into Heroes for Hire/Daughters of the Dragon, as I don't think either series has been doing all that great individually.

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    Will Disney's PG13 service really have Daredevil, Punisher, or Jessica Jones? I think it's much more likely to be on Hulu since they bought a bigger stake there recently if at all.
    Yeah, I posted my thoughts on that right before you posted. Disney+ looks like it's very traditionally Disney. Hulu could be the adult-oriented service.

    gotcha thanks

    i really hope they pick them up... daredevil easily has enough juice to continue on its own. maybe they should just combine cage/fist into Heroes for Hire/Daughters of the Dragon, as I don't think either series has been doing all that great individually.
    It all depends on what Disney wants and if they feel it's worth the money. I think it could be significant that Cloak and Dagger and AoS were renewed with their sizable budgets in no small part due to their time-shifted ratings and streaming on Hulu. It's an open question whether Hulu could handle five $40 million Marvel productions on their own, but one would think 2 or 3 with consolidation and guest spots doesn't seem impossible.

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    Does Disney really have a shot in the streaming game?

    There are too many other streaming companies to choose from that isn't solely dependent on their family oriented tv shows or movies and whatnot.

    Amazon Prime is now going at the same rate Netflix is. HBO Now goes for about the same and all those have the family thing plus the adult oriented content.

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    i dont see why not. especially if disney+ is going to (eventually) have all MCU films available on their platform

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    Content is king and Disney+ can pick and choose from everything they have from Disney/Pixar/Marvel/Lucasfilm/Fox in the movies and TV. Netflix still flounders around with its original content while the corporate and creative knowledge of Disney after Jan 1 is off the charts. The family angle seems pretty smart because most of the buzz around other services are around pretty adult programs now that I think about it.

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    Disney is not going to pick up these series where they left off as Netflix has the exclusive rights to the seasons which they produced. It would be really weird to watch seasons 1-whatever on Netflix and the rest on Disney. Especially since the tone and direction of each would likely change. These shows, except for a few easter eggs, have mostly ignored the MCU and are likely too "adult" (especially Punisher) for Disney. And I don't think they'll move to another service like Hulu. Disney wants to keep all of their content in-house from here on out. At best we can hope that they use some of the characters in other projects without requiring too much knowledge of what transpired on Netflix.. Daredevil is a given. Kingpin could even be used in a Spiderman film even if it's just for a secondary role.

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    Disney+ is supposed to be like $20 bucks forget that. I can just download the MCU and Star Wars movies if I want to watch one plus I can get the despecialized versions of Star Wars that way anyway

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    Hulu is going to be in-house after Disney takes over Fox and buys out AT&T's share.

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    Disney+ is supposed to be like $20 bucks forget that. I can just download the MCU and Star Wars movies if I want to watch one plus I can get the despecialized versions of Star Wars that way anyway
    I wonder what Disney's play will be for the non Marvel obssesed people will be. I like the shows and movies but I'm not such a fan that I would get the service just base on that and for that alone.

    I'd sooner be a prime user than a Disney one. I dont see the overall appeal.

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    Agreed. No chance in I pay for a Disney streaming service. I seen all the marvel movies a ton of times already anyways.

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    Disney is not going to pick up these series where they left off as Netflix has the exclusive rights to the seasons which they produced. It would be really weird to watch seasons 1-whatever on Netflix and the rest on Disney. Especially since the tone and direction of each would likely change. These shows, except for a few easter eggs, have mostly ignored the MCU and are likely too "adult" (especially Punisher) for Disney. And I don't think they'll move to another service like Hulu. Disney wants to keep all of their content in-house from here on out. At best we can hope that they use some of the characters in other projects without requiring too much knowledge of what transpired on Netflix.. Daredevil is a given. Kingpin could even be used in a Spiderman film even if it's just for a secondary role.
    we've seen different networks pick up shows and continue them before, though

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    Variety is reporting Disney can't do anything with the Netflix characters for two years. Probably impossible to get the principals and showrunners back together.

    Punisher is a possible exception since it was a separate deal.

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    Variety is reporting Disney can't do anything with the Netflix characters for two years. Probably impossible to get the principals and showrunners back together.

    Punisher is a possible exception since it was a separate deal.
    det was my fear

    such a shame. when i thought the series was really losing momentum, DD put out one of the best overall seasons... then cancelled

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    punisher season 2 is unwatchable

    forced myself to get through the first 4 episodes. dont think i can continue tbh

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    punisher season 2 is unwatchable

    forced myself to get through the first 4 episodes. dont think i can continue tbh
    Yeah I got halfway through and said this. The acting is really bad and it’s one mindlessly gruesome fight scene after another. I also didn’t remember Bernthal’s punisher voice to be so deep and over the top

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    Yeah I got halfway through and said this. The acting is really bad and it’s one mindlessly gruesome fight scene after another. I also didn’t remember Bernthal’s punisher voice to be so deep and over the top
    i dont mind bernthal at all. he's the only good part of the show. amy is trash. madani is trash. russo is trash. his shrink is trash. generic religious zealot villain is trash.

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    punisher season 2 is unwatchable

    forced myself to get through the first 4 episodes. dont think i can continue tbh
    Agreed

    Season 1 was good but season is just free violence at this point

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    Season was meh, don't like the fact that they recycled the villain and just threw in a Harley Quinn for giggles. Pilgrim was aight.

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    I liked it. Probably would have been better if Jigsaw was the secondary villain and Pilgrim was the main villain, he was way more interesting.

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    That sucks to hear. I liked season one.

    I wonder how long they'll wait to announce the cancellation.

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    Really??? That really sucks. Was looking forward to this.

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    I liked it. Probably would have been better if Jigsaw was the secondary villain and Pilgrim was the main villain, he was way more interesting.

    I agree with this.

    Not crazy about the young girl, though .... I kinda wished they'd worked in the girl from first episodes.

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    Iron Fist season 2 was meh, better than season 1, but still meh

    FInn Jones can’t carry a show tbh, he’s better when he is playing a secondary character, his cameo in Luke Cage season 2 was good for instance.

    Ward has been by far my favorite character in both sessons.
    Ward is awesome tbh
    His girlfriend was an interesting character, the actress did a great job imo

    I really like Typhoid Mary, although we haven’t seen the Typhoid Mary personality per se, I think that’s who she was hinting at in the finale

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