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His teams have been pretty poorly structured for a big of his talent level. He should leave ASAP
What's up with this guy? Top 3 player, seven years in...and 1 playoff win.
Bad luck? Overrated?
His teams have been pretty poorly structured for a big of his talent level. He should leave ASAP
Nitpicking but doesn't have the personal drive of an Embiid.
Davis reminds me of LeBron - coasting and having a happy time win or lose.
His teams were never that good, especially in the stacked west. There's only so much you can do when your best teammate is Jrue Holiday. Even the best PF of all time needed a "little bit" of talent around him.
I still think he has the best peak ability in the league, but it's a bad look for the legacy when you miss the playoffs in the NBA in a sport where 1 guy can carry a team to RS wins..
Jordan missing the playoffs twice in the weakest East in NBA history is a massive indictment on his career, for example..
he isnt going to win in the stacked west and against the superteams
his better of heading west or teaming up with a superteam
No gravity tbh. Not an great 3 point shooter & isn't a great passer either
Badly overrated. Vanishes all the time. Doesn't make teammates better.
this guy has the same excuses as KG wolves..7 straight years without making the playoffs
What is this, fake news?
Doesn't matter how you try to spin it, Lebron will never be as good as him despite playing in a stat-padded era.
In the Pelicans case, it's true because their bench is awful.
His teams roster construction has been a joke his whole career, but he was very underwhelming vs the Warriors last playoffs. I saw him get pushed around by Looney and Green too often.
Holiday is a damn good player. defensive metrics always rank him among the top 3 point guards. Mirotic is very good too granted the rest of the roster is but it's a little ridiculous Anthony Davis gets blamed so little for how ty his teams always do. look at the teammates Hakeem olajuwon dragged to a championship in 94 and Tim Duncan won with in 2003 and then Davis can barely went one ing playoff series in his entire career??
I'm not even really bagging on him I just don't get why his numbers don't translate to more wins.
Holiday isn’t that good especially offensively. His overall metrics are above average especially his inconsistent shooting and turnovers. He can’t run an offense which is why he’s been shifted to SG and his defense doesn’t translate to team defense since perimeter defense isn’t as important as interior defense.
Davis isn’t that kind of player who demands the ball consistently. He’s very good offensively and defensively but he doesn’t make others around him better. He also doesn’t have a reliable perimeter scorer, the bench is bad and Jrue Holiday should never be a team’s second best player though I think Randle and Mirotic are better overall. Also the team doesn’t have a lot of good shooters.
It's crazy to me how Marc Gasol has made his Grizzlies teams historically much better than AD has made NO. This team AD (they probably wont make the playoffs) has is arguably more talented then of the teams Marc Gasol has had and Gasol never had the numbers of an AD.
Part of its coaching too. The Pelicans have never had a good defensive team with the exception of last season and this season the Pelicans are a disaster defensively. Also Mike Conley is much better than anyone the Pelicans have had especially his ability to run an offense which Jrue Holiday can’t do. Also Gasol has Zach Randolph for a number of years as well.
Yeah, I never liked the Gentry hire for that team and how Dell Demps still has a job is beyond me.
future laker tbh
Fake news?
They should be making a coaching change. No team with Anthony Davis should be as bad as they are defensively.
Sometimes overused and overstated, but I do believe the “era” argument does have some merit with Davis. Just over the last decade as the NBA has shifted, we’ve seen fewer and fewer centers or power forwards dominate the league. The best big men in the league now either have superior perimeter/guard skills or are complimentary and secondary players, not primary scorers or the focal point of the offense. And even then, how many PFs/C do we even consider superstars? Most NBA offenses now go through the guards, perimeter iso, PNR, perimeter side to side swing movement, drive and kick. How many teams actually post up a guy (big man or not) as their primary halfcourt offensive set? It’s outdated. Anthony Davis is stuck in a league where if he wants to have more personal control of his team’s success, he has to play more like LeBron or Giannis on offense and less like Duncan or Garnett.
Think about the history of the league MVP. Before the mid 80s dominance of Magic and Michael, for 30 years, the league MVP went to all big men except for Oscar and Dr. J. For nearly 50 years, Iverson was the only small guard to be league MVP. And over the last 14 seasons while LeBron has dominated the award and the league, not even counting him, there have been 8 guard MVPs, including small guards in Nash, Rose, Curry, Westbrook (I know calling him small is debatable). Guards impact the game way more now, so if a big man wants to have that type of impact, he has to play like a guard.
So for me, it’s hard to give Davis too much fault in his teams’ failures in the playoffs. I think more playoff success would have been available to him if he entered the league 10-20 years earlier. Not necessarily championship success, but way more multiple deep runs in the post season.
It really doesn't make much sense at first glance, but it does when you look at his game.
AD is one of the most talented players in the history of basketball. He gets compared to Timmy sometimes, but he's more like KG. Like KG, AD is extremely versatile and puts up insane stats. However, his biggest issue is that he lacks the "gravity" that another poster mentioned. You don't need to double a guy who shoots a bunch of 3s, fadeaways, and floaters. Because of that, he's going to get his numbers, but his teammates won't benefit from his presence the way that Joel Embiid's teammates do. There's nothing luring the help away to open things up for his guys, and he doesn't have the court vision to be threading the needle to his teammates at this point.
The other area worth noting is defense, or lack thereof. It's mind-boggling that a team with Davis and Holiday can be so piss-poor on that end, and AD has to answer for that deficiency. A guy with his tools should be captaining a more dominant defensive. Some of it is coaching and schemes, obviously, but there's absolutely no excuse for this level of defensive helplessness.
The bucks post Giannis up all the time, and so do the sixers with Embiid. The sixers and Embiid started struggling a bit when he started jacking up more 3s.
Overall though, yes it's definitely tougher to build around a big now, especially in the regular season. Big men play under a seemingly totally different set of rules, and you can't even breathe on perimeter players anymore. But these differences even out a bit more in the playoffs. Personally, I feel AD would be best as a number 2 scorer/finisher on a team with an established playmaker/perimeter scorer ala KG in Boston.
He was 38 and 39 LOL. No one in their right mind holds that against MJ and even with those two seasons his career WS/48 is still higher than LeRoids who's actually number 3 behind Mikan LOLFake news?
I wasn’t suggesting post-ups don’t exist at all anymore. Only that by in large it’s not the primary set used by pretty much anyone anymore. The game is faster. More and more shots come in transition and in early (either delayed transition or pre-set) offense across the league in general. And most halfcourt sets are either iso or PNR or some kind of screen and move motion type of offense that does NOT involve low block (or midpost) post-ups. High post action is a lot more common, but to facilitate more so than to score.
Giannis gets more high post and midpost action where he turns and faces and still drives than actual low block post-ups where he’s expected to stay back to the basket and score off of actual post moves. Embiid gets more low block post-ups than Giannis, but I wouldn’t say that’s Philly’s primary offensive set most games.
Can you think of any player (big man or otherwise) in the league today who gets 30+ post touches on the low block (include midpost too) per game the way Shaq or Jordan would?
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