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elitist billionaire Trash, over and over and over, screwing his employees
yawn
Thoughts and prayers to those affected
elitist billionaire Trash, over and over and over, screwing his employees
yawn
Feeding my kids prayer sandwiches tonight.
Yeah, it's ty. Like the blame mostly goes on Trump for trying to force Congress to pay for something he assured us we wouldn't have to. But the Democrats seem to be enjoying this way too much. The "symbolic" bills the House passed mean nothing, and I doubt anyone was heartened by them. Dems are gambling that this is going to win them more votes (or a higher turnout) from Latinos to offset the folks who either stay home or switch to the GOP (ESPECIALLY if someone challenges and ousts Trump). It'll be interesting to see if it works, but I am skeptical that most American Latinos support migrants' rights enough to form a bloc because of it.
Even Congressional Repugs refused to buy this toy for Trash, for two years, although Repugs fully agree with Trash's racism, xenophobia, nativism, and white male nationalism. It's been fundamental to Repug politicking for 50 years. Repugs have that $5B, and other $100Bs, earmarked for their BigDonor class.
Of course, the Dems are thrilled that Trash is trashing himself (as polls show).
Anyway, more whites than browns are being hurt by Trash's shutdown.
And, at least in TX, browns don't vote much.
Why don’t more Texas Latinos vote?
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018...ew-study-shows
It’s not going to flip votes either way imo. The Trump supporters are blaming Schumer/Pelosi, the Dems are blaming Trump, and any independents blaming Trump are independents who already didn’t like him.
"But the Dems"
its arbitrary for him to draw a line in the sand now.
he didnt shut down the govt in previous years for the wall.
That blame can only go so far before it becomes obvious that neither side really cares. I think that Trump's side sort of understands that already. I think some voters may be getting to the point where they wonder if fighting Trump is really what the Dems are going to focus on. Like, "Yeah, Trump, but I don't want to lose my house over it.
He had other to distract the media with last year.
"neither side really cares"
some truth in that (the Dem establishment is not at all progressive, and fully subservient to BigDonor), but the shutdown and wall are 100% on Trash, as he himself said on national TV.
Trash also said the 2018 midterms were all about him, and he got crushed.
2020 will also be about Trash, but I don't think Dems prioritizing anti-Trash will be enough to win the all-important Senate, to complement a Dem Congress.
And there are predictions that 2019/2020 will see significant economic slowdown, which never favors the in bents.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-15-2019 at 01:27 PM.
^ grown man using nicknames
Trump uses nicknames all the time^ grown man using nicknames
What are your thoughts on the Polish mayor who was stabbed in the chest in front of hundreds of people at a rally this week?
Says "FrostKing"^ grown man using nicknames
Some disgruntled low life. The mayor was popular. Security was heavily lacking as this is rare.
I think the people most affected by this are the government contractors. AFAIK there is no precedent for giving them back pay so it’s lost income. I think there are around 4M contract employees although I’m not sure what percentage are impacted by the shutdown
did he shut down the government over obamacare repeal? family/chain migration reform?
With our short attention spans, if we remember the shutdown at all in 2020 I think it could help someone with little name recognition, like Beto or Castro, claim he wasn’t a part of this fiasco when running against Booker, Warren or Harris in the Democratic primary.
yep, govt contractors are not reimbursed.
Maybe? I don't remember why the government has been shut down before. Think that's getting farther from the point though.
no, it's exactly the point. he's made the wall a sticking point before, and tied it to daca negotiations. he can be hardline on it all he wants. but shutting down the govt over 5 billion to a pet project was an arbitrary call.
the last shutdown was TX Repug Lying Ted so he could read Green Eggs and Ham
before that, IIRC, it was Repug Noot Gingrich shutting down TWICE to spite Slick Willy.
so that's 4 shutdowns, all by Repug mother ers
again,IIRC, Lyin Ted's shutdown cost was $50B
Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-15-2019 at 02:55 PM.
No, it's exactly not the point. It's not going to matter "who started it" when folks are losing their homes. There should be a basic rule that people shouldn't lose their homes because of political disagreements that have nothing to do with them. Trump being the one who threw that out the window first doesn't mean that folks aren't going to be upset that the Dems left it out the window for so long.
I'm not wondering whose fault it is, so telling me it's Trump's fault is irrelevant. I'm talking about the potential erosion of trust in both sides and how that's going to affect the upcoming elections, and that's not going to be based on who technically caused this to happen.
you cant have one without the other imo
"erosion of trust"
... in politics, in govt, in the law, in ins utions, in neoliberal austerity (for the non-oligarchy) in Capitalism, in democracy is common in several countries, that are, like USA, turning to anti-democratic authoritarianism as an alternative.
obviously, Capitalism is anti-democratic and s non-Capitalists, and US democracy is long dead and gone. America was never intended by the FFs to be a democracy.
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