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The fact that you're deathly afraid of the candidate YOU ran. That's enough for me.
It takes nothing special to point out what a ty take Hillary 2020 is. As you can tell by the responses itt, nobody is buying your bull .
The fact that you're deathly afraid of the candidate YOU ran. That's enough for me.
I have no fear she’ll be the democratic nominee. I think you hope that she will be the nominee and you let that emotion color your ty takes.
I'd like to see a good candidate. Unlike you I'll take a country win over a party win.
Great. Who would you consider to be a good candidate?
You're right. Twice, then.
Oops.
Probably a lot of them, TBH. But neither of us knows the inner workings from campaigns prior to party communications being hacked.
Last edited by Spurminator; 01-28-2019 at 09:34 PM.
Don't worry, I forgot about Dewey.
Grover Cleveland did it with Stevenson's father as his VP. So there.
Not a great track record anyway.
People ting bricks at the possibility of another Hillary run.
Not with her anymore
Nobody is ting bricks because no one, outside of DMC, thinks she’ll get the nomination.People ting bricks at the possibility of another Hillary run.
Not with her anymore
She only got it last time because the field was so weak. Lol, three randos and Bernie.
It was her "turn" and everyone thought she would win. I don't think most feel that way anymore.
The randos were all has beens too, it’s not like any of them were considered to be rising stars.
When I saw the debates, I didn't even know who they were, tbh.
All I knew about Martin O’Malley is that the character Tommy Carcetti in The Wire was based off of him
I don't believe she was such an awful candidate. Her mistakes were not campaigning on the road and being a bit snotty towards certain demographics (but that tends to be a quality of Dems).
IMO the timing was awful - people wanted change/anti establishment and Hillary was far from it. Okay Ill add another mistake of hers: she tried to be too many versions to too many groups/people and it eventually came off not genuine
I'll know when it when I see it.
Also how many are wives of former presidents? And is there even one with the power the Clintons have in the DNC?
Awesome post
I don't think "wife of former President" was a big selling point before 1980. But plenty of former VP's and other cabinet members have run for President and lost. How many have lost as embarrassingly as Hillary Clinton?
There's no way to quantify this power you suggest the Clintons have over the DNC (and you do realize that party leadership was completely turned over after 2016, right?) nor to measure it against influence previous candidates might have had within the committee. It's hard to believe that 2016 was unique with respect to party leaders having a favored candidate for their party's nomination. I imagine it's fairly common.
They got too brazen with how much they controlled the primary process in 2016 (and also how much they bankrupted the DNC) and there's been backlash because of it, they don't have the power they had 2 years ago. Any power they still have will be used in more subtle ways, this time around candidates are going to be doing everything they can to be as far away from Hillary as possible. The mere fact candidates like Warren and Biden are entering the race is enough to know that this won't be another primary where Hillary is crammed down everyone's throat. What's a big possibility is the Clintons taking a likable younger candidate like Beto who's views are largely unknown to the public and doing with him what they did with Obama in 08 after it was clear he'd beat Hillary (throw their support and resources behind him as long as he fills his cabinet with their people and supports the corporatist agenda that the Clintons support).
Either way, it's a delusional right wing pipe dream to think Hillary has any shot at winning the primary. In every poll I've seen she had 5% of the vote or less, and she's not a candidate who's going to gain support between now and when primary voting actually starts. People have always liked her less and less as they see more and more of her, her popularity was at its highest in 2013 and 2014 when she was neither in office nor actively campaigning
The more I think about it I'd actually want her to run. The only people who'd vote for her are the low information black voters or middle aged women, so she'd theoretically make it more difficult for some ty candidate like Harris or Booker to win the primary by carrying the black vote or some other ty candidate like Gillibrand.
Last edited by Will Hunting; 01-29-2019 at 11:54 AM.
I will not be pawed atAwesome post
How is me asking you who you’d consider to ba a good candidate after you suggested you wanted a good candidate me pawing at you?
In any event the work has been done here. Everyone agrees that your Hillary 2020 pipe dream is low value post.
Go back to the drawing board DMC. You your pants pretty thoroughly itt.
You are not my inquisitor.
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