"Alpha Nancy"

[Th'Pusher]

You are not my inquisitor.

Ok. But you’re a low value poster.

[DMC]

Ok. But you’re a low value poster.

Maybe that's why I live in your head rent free.

[Th'Pusher]

Maybe that's why I live in your head rent free.

Solid post.

[Pavlov]

lol DodgeMC

[Spurtacular]

Either way, it's a delusional right wing pipe dream to think Hillary has any shot at winning the primary.

That's putting it in terms that suit you. We're acknowledging certain realities that make it quite possible if not likely that she'll give it a go.

[Will Hunting]

That's putting it in terms that suit you. We're acknowledging certain realities that make it quite possible if not likely that she'll give it a go.

Her giving it a go is a possibility, I was speaking to the possibility of her winning the primary. It has absolutely no shot at happening.

[Th'Pusher]

That's putting it in terms that suit you. We're acknowledging certain realities that make it quite possible if not likely that she'll give it a go.

This is great company you keep DMC.

[Spurtacular]

Her giving it a go is a possibility, I was speaking to the possibility of her winning the primary. It has absolutely no shot at happening.

Yea, I just saw I misread it. I don't look at it in terms of percent at this point. Too many variables. One point would be that Democratic animosity towards her can soften; and many leftists still romanticize having a woman in office. While I probably have her behind Biden, Bernie and Beto at this point, momentum cannot be discounted. It's too early to really say.

[Spurtacular]

This is great company you keep DMC.

I haven't kept up with your squabble. You'll have to explain that.

[Will Hunting]

Yea, I just saw I misread it. I don't look at it in terms of percent at this point. Too many variables. One point would be that Democratic animosity towards her can soften; and many leftists still romanticize having a woman in office. While I probably have her behind Biden, Bernie and Beto at this point, momentum cannot be discounted. It's too early to really say.

The leftists are the ones who hate her the most. The polls also say she’s behind a lot more than the group you just listed. I saw a recent poll that had her dead even with Oprah Winfrey at 1%.

Also, as I mentioned earlier ITT, she’s the opposite of a candidate who can overcome a huge deficit in the polls and win on momentum. Her campaigns have always lost steam as the progress because of how awful she is making appearances on the campaign trail. Candidates who can overcome huge deficits and build momentum are more energetic types who typically do stuff like public speaking a lot better than Hillary does (ie Obama or Beto). The only way she’s ever won major races is by beating people into submission with name recognition and being able to start the campaign with a giant advantage.

[Spurtacular]

The leftists are the ones who hate her the most. The polls also say she’s behind a lot more than the group you just listed. I saw a recent poll that had her dead even with Oprah Winfrey at 1%.

Fake poll, imo.

[FrostKing]

They got too brazen with how much they controlled the primary process in 2016 (and also how much they bankrupted the DNC) and there's been backlash because of it, they don't have the power they had 2 years ago. Any power they still have will be used in more subtle ways, this time around candidates are going to be doing everything they can to be as far away from Hillary as possible. The mere fact candidates like Warren and Biden are entering the race is enough to know that this won't be another primary where Hillary is crammed down everyone's throat. What's a big possibility is the Clintons taking a likable younger candidate like Beto who's views are largely unknown to the public and doing with him what they did with Obama in 08 after it was clear he'd beat Hillary (throw their support and resources behind him as long as he fills his cabinet with their people and supports the corporatist agenda that the Clintons support).

Either way, it's a delusional right wing pipe dream to think Hillary has any shot at winning the primary. In every poll I've seen she had 5% of the vote or less, and she's not a candidate who's going to gain support between now and when primary voting actually starts. People have always liked her less and less as they see more and more of her, her popularity was at its highest in 2013 and 2014 when she was neither in office nor actively campaigning . In spite of having all the advantages she had in 2016, 40% of the primary voters ended up voting for a Socialist who's name was barely known outside of the Northeast prior to the primary.

The more I think about it I'd actually want her to run. The only people who'd vote for her are the low information black voters or middle aged women, so she'd theoretically make it more difficult for some ty candidate like Harris or Booker to win the primary by carrying the black vote or some other ty candidate like Gillibrand.

Don't be such an incel. Hillary would be a legitimate candidate to break the barrier

[Will Hunting]

Fake poll, imo.

What poll are you looking at?

[Spurtacular]

Also, as I mentioned earlier ITT, she’s the opposite of a candidate who can overcome a huge deficit in the polls and win on momentum. Her campaigns have always lost steam as the progress because of how awful she is making appearances on the campaign trail. Candidates who can overcome huge deficits and build momentum are more energetic types who typically do stuff like public speaking a lot better than Hillary does (ie Obama or Beto). The only way she’s ever won major races is by beating people into submission with name recognition and being able to start the campaign with a giant advantage.

Biden is the only one who rivals her in political "prestige". I don't disagree that the hardcore lefties are more for Beto or Bernie; but then again, both of them running could split the vote and help her. And Biden is not a sure thing at this point cos isn't he pushing 80 or something? Granted, he's probably in better health than her. I'm not talking about her having a grass roots momentum; but there's no doubt she has plenty of loyal followers still. There's no doubt that she doesn't have connections and can garner support if she starts to look like a front runner. Mind you, I'm speaking of her as a dark horse at this point. But sometimes dark horses win the prize. There are plenty of Dems that don't want Commie Cuck or Fake Mexican and want "resume". It's just too early to start discounting her chances. I think her chances of winning the Dem primaries are frankly better than winning a presidential election in which Trump very favorably contrasts against her.

[Spurtacular]

What poll are you looking at?

Any pretend poll that has Hillary at one percent.

[Will Hunting]

Biden is the only one who rivals her in political "prestige". I don't disagree that the hardcore lefties are more for Beto or Bernie; but then again, both of them running could split the vote and help her. And Biden is not a sure thing at this point cos isn't he pushing 80 or something? Granted, he's probably in better health than her. I'm not talking about her having a grass roots momentum; but there's no doubt she has plenty of loyal followers still. There's no doubt that she doesn't have connections and can garner support if she starts to look like a front runner. Mind you, I'm speaking of her as a dark horse at this point. But sometimes dark horses win the prize. There are plenty of Dems that don't want Commie Cuck or Fake Mexican and want "resume". It's just too early to start discounting her chances. I think her chances of winning the Dem primaries are frankly better than winning a presidential election in which Trump very favorably contrasts against her.

Where do you base the assertion that she still has plenty of loyal followers? I haven’t seen any polling supporting that.

Youre also ignoring all of the other candidates and pretending she’s only running against two old men and a fake Mexican. Harris/Booker will make it so she’s won’t be able to sleep walk her way to the black vote anymore, Warren will take most of the “we want a woman!” vote from Hillary, and I’m only scratching the surface. It’s an extremely crowded field which makes it so bland centrists like Hillary who don’t have any fanatics struggle to find a base.

[Will Hunting]

Any pretend poll that has Hillary at one percent.

I’m asking what polling data you’re using. I’m curious as to what polls have Hillary getting anything at this point.

[Spurtacular]

Where do you base the assertion that she still has plenty of loyal followers? I haven’t seen any polling supporting that.

Youre also ignoring all of the other candidates and pretending she’s only running against two old men and a fake Mexican. Harris/Booker will make it so she’s won’t be able to sleep walk her way to the black vote anymore, Warren will take most of the “we want a woman!” vote from Hillary, and I’m only scratching the surface. It’s an extremely crowded field which makes it so bland centrists like Hillary who don’t have any fanatics struggle to find a base.

That you believe polls and haven't figured out that they're establishment projections at this point. Or do you really think that Hillary went from "popular vote getter" to one percent while not being embroiled in any new scandals?

Harris/Booker are pretenders. It's like giving the Heat a chance of making the Finals. It's not going to happen. In fact, that's overstating it, cos I doubt they'll even win a state; they're more akin to a team that who has the faintest of chances of making the playoffs even.

Warren is Hillary Zero; she won't be siphoning many votes.

Crowded doesn't mean a thing. There's four serious contenders. The rest will drop off quickly.

[Splits]

[FrostKing]

> Barbra's $100 MILLION home


> Barbra supporting segregation


> Barbra visiting the Western Wall

[Will Hunting]

That you believe polls and haven't figured out that they're establishment projections at this point. Or do you really think that Hillary went from "popular vote getter" to one percent while not being embroiled in any new scandals?

Harris/Booker are pretenders. It's like giving the Heat a chance of making the Finals. It's not going to happen. In fact, that's overstating it, cos I doubt they'll even win a state; they're more akin to a team that who has the faintest of chances of making the playoffs even.

Warren is Hillary Zero; she won't be siphoning many votes.

Crowded doesn't mean a thing. There's four serious contenders. The rest will drop off quickly.

I’ll happily bet that Hillary either doesn’t run or runs, only gets <10% of the popular vote, and wins <3 states. You in?

[Spurtacular]

I’ll happily bet that Hillary either doesn’t run or runs, only gets <10% of the popular vote, and wins <3 states. You in?

You'd likely lose the first one, imo. She only won't go for it for health reasons, tbh. Her performance is iffy of course. That's why I have her preliminarily ranked fourth.

[BD24]

You'd likely lose the first one, imo. She only won't go for it for health reasons, tbh. Her performance is iffy of course. That's why I have her preliminarily ranked fourth.

Look at this pussy backing down when pressed

[Spurtacular]

Look at this pussy backing down when pressed

I don't have any need to do personal bets with anyone on ST. Never have, never will. You're bitter, bruh.

[BD24]

I don't have any need to do personal bets with anyone on ST. Never have, never will. You're bitter, bruh.

Look at this pussy backing down.