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  1. #476
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    If they accept the penalty it’s another down and 40 more seconds off the clock so they’re getting it back with <30 seconds and no timeouts. I’d rather take the risk that the dumb pollak kicker misses than pray for a Hail Mary to work.
    FG kicker wouldve missed and good field position with only having to get one score.

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    FG kicker wouldve missed and good field position with only having to get one score.
    no, they would have punted, but there would have been closer to 40 seconds - not 20 like Romo incorrectly stated. Though with a punt they're either pinned back deep or start at their own 20, either way with no timeouts.

  3. #478
    I'm still in shock that Zuerlein missed that kick I haven't had a day this good in a minute, tbh..which charity should I donate to?

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    FG kicker wouldve missed and good field position with only having to get one score.
    They wouldn’t have kicked a field goal, they would have punted and pinned the Rams deep with <30 seconds and no timeouts left.

    Doesnt matter because they lose either way, but there’s not a chance New England attempts a 50+ yard FG in that position.

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    I'm still in shock that Zuerlein missed that kick I haven't had a day this good in a minute, tbh..
    the only thing that would have made that game halfway decent is if he were to make it, they recover an onside kick with 1-2 seconds left, pull off the miracle hail mary and go for 2 and win

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    They wouldn’t have kicked a field goal, they would have punted and pinned the Rams deep with <30 seconds and no timeouts left.

    Doesnt matter because they lose either way, but there’s not a chance New England attempts a 50+ yard FG in that position.
    35-40 seconds most likely. They start at or inside the 20.

    The game was lost on the last big play when they allowed Burkhead to break that big one. Otherwise they're looking at getting the ball back with around 2 minutes left and at least one timeout + possibly the 2 minute warning, plenty of time.

  7. #482
    I had Zuerlein miss that kick + Westbrook completely melting down in the final 10 secs to help get the -3.5 cover as parts of this 10-leg parlay one of those days .

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    I had Zuerlein miss that kick + Westbrook completely melting down in the final 10 secs to help get the -3.5 cover as parts of this 10-leg parlay one of those days .
    22/16/12 and lost in regulation. Boston had a heck of a day in sports.

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    no, they would have punted, but there would have been closer to 40 seconds - not 20 like Romo incorrectly stated. Though with a punt they're either pinned back deep or start at their own 20, either way with no timeouts.
    Still more ideal than making it two score game even if that's how it all went down.

    Pats may have been tempted to throw a screen on 1st and 20. Stuff like that are x factors.

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    by the way... congrats, Will Hunting / Raven / monosylab2k / but I lost a little respect for you guys for doubting the Pats all year long...
    you always have to the pats D, it's a rule or they get complacent.

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    Still more ideal than making it two score game even if that's how it all went down.

    Pats may have been tempted to throw a screen on 1st and 20. Stuff like that are x factors.
    agreed, I disagreed with McGay's decision. Not to mention the fact that the Pats did gain 4 yards on the play on 1st & 10. If the Pats are further backed up then yes, decline it. If the Pats are only up 1, 2, 3 or 4 points then yes, decline it. But when the FG essentially ends the game - you sell out to stop it at all costs.

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    you always have to the pats D, it's a rule or they get complacent.
    Pats secondary is elite, the front 7 isn't good but they have the GOAT coach scheming the defense... Brady pretty much schemes the offense.

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    At least the NFC East (not you, Redskins) gets to celebrate that they beat the Pats and the L.A. Lambs didn't (twice). Also, the Seahawks and their fans can breathe a little easier after tonight.

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    Damn, that game actually made me wish the Saints won the NFC Chamionship.

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    Who is he going to backing up?
    the lead cameraman

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    Handegg

    41 year old unathletic nerd is your goat

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    A midget who quit on his own country is your GOAT
    thinking Messi is the goat

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    I don't think the game was as boring as people say.

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    I don't think the game was as boring as people say.
    No, but the offensive deficiencies were glaring.

  20. #495
    Joe Torre. Baseball managers set the lineup and then pick at their ass for most of the game until a relief pitcher or pinch hitter is needed, he shouldn’t even be in the conversation.
    Indeed. GMs run baseball teams and hand down strat to the managers. Epstein is probably the GOAT. Baseball is also more player centric, anyway. You can't "call a play" for Mike Trout. He has to figure out the pitcher himself.

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    Indeed. GMs run baseball teams and hand down strat to the managers. Epstein is probably the GOAT. Baseball is also more player centric, anyway. You can't "call a play" for Mike Trout. He has to figure out the pitcher himself.
    Yeah I’m not really sure what baseball managers do for the first half of the game. They also rarely go to the bullpen until after the pitcher gets s acked and it becomes a no brainer decision, it’s not like when Popovich calls a timeout right before the other team is about to go on a run.

    Alex Cora last year is maybe the most impact I’ve ever seen a manager make. It seemed like he regularly pulled a pinch hit home run or pinch base clearing hit out of his ass whenever he needed it.

  22. #497
    thinking Messi is the goat
    Could be talking about Maradona, who is a 5'2" chubby midget. naldo doesn't belong in the conversation, poor advanced stats (the only soccer thing I'll look at). I understand why povertyball fans pimp him, though. He's one of the few who have something resembling muscle mass and "looks athletic" despite being slower than Prince Fielder and having a lower vertical than Warren Sapp

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    Damn, that game actually made me wish the Saints won the NFC Chamionship.
    Absolutely. No way Breezus gets shut down like that. Not saying the Pats couldn't have won, but it would have been more offensive and fun to watch.

  24. #499
    Yeah I’m not really sure what baseball managers do for the first half of the game. They also rarely go to the bullpen until after the pitcher gets s acked and it becomes a no brainer decision, it’s not like when Popovich calls a timeout right before the other team is about to go on a run.

    Alex Cora last year is maybe the most impact I’ve ever seen a manager make. It seemed like he regularly pulled a pinch hit home run or pinch base clearing hit out of his ass whenever he needed it.
    There's really nothing a baseball manager can do to affect on-field play, since they can never have a better viewpoint of the action than the batters/pitchers/catchers (I would say catchers are the de facto managers on defense. Best view of the action), where in football and basketball, coaches have more of an omnipotent perspective. If batter is getting shutdown by inside sliders, not much a coach can do to "get him going" by calling a set play or something. As you said, best they can do is make reasonable relief pitching and pinch hitting decisions and hope they work.

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    There's really nothing a baseball manager can do to affect on-field play, since they can never have a better viewpoint of the action than the batters/pitchers/catchers (I would say catchers are the de facto managers on defense. Best view of the action), where in football and basketball, coaches have more of an omnipotent perspective. If batter is getting shutdown by inside sliders, not much a coach can do to "get him going" by calling a set play or something. As you said, best they can do is make reasonable relief pitching and pinch hitting decisions and hope they work.
    In the NL (and AL in part of each world series) managers make a lot of extremely important situational personnel decisions pretty much throughout that directly determine who wins or loses.


    AL managers, except for the world series, have it extremely easy. They pretty much have a one-page set of solutions that they already pre-decided on in March and only slightly ever have to tweak all year.

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