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    It's a valid point. You just don't like it.

    (Proceeds to pivot to "open borders")
    As mentioned it's not in her district so that's not relevant. The only polls I've seen support Amazon. Speculating on potential non-support is irrelevant.

    Pointing out the inconsistency of being concerned about displacement but being for open borders is very relevant.

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    You guys can spin in any way you want but jobs (whether high paying or not) are jobs - that means more for surrounding/supporting businesses and taxes for city/county/state.

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    Unless you have a poll that says her district didn't want it then there is no need to bring up the point.

    She's for open borders. Why is she so concerned about displaced citizens?

    She thinks they have 3 billion to spend on the poors now.
    Cortez didn't lead the fight. And the councilman who represents that specific district was against Amazon building there. This leads me to believe the majority of his cons uents were against it. And when you look up that district's economy, it doesn't seem to me they were hurting for Amazon.

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    You guys can spin in any way you want but jobs (whether high paying or not) are jobs - that means more for surrounding/supporting businesses and taxes for city/county/state.
    Horse .

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    As mentioned it's not in her district so that's not relevant. The only polls I've seen support Amazon. Speculating on potential non-support is irrelevant.

    Pointing out the inconsistency of being concerned about displacement but being for open borders is very relevant.
    Support of the affected district is relevant, it has nothing to do with whether it's AOC's or not. You don't like the speculation because it doesn't help your narrative. Statewide support is far less relevant than the likely non-support of those affected directly.

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    Amazon wasn't even building in her district.
    The councilman who reps the district was against it.

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    the statewide support argument

    it’s not fair that Amazon couldn’t get a bunch of corporate welfare from residents of NYC that people in Albany and Binghamton were willing to give out!

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    Support of the affected district is relevant, it has nothing to do with whether it's AOC's or not. You don't like the speculation because it doesn't help your narrative. Statewide support is far less relevant than the likely non-support of those affected directly.
    The speculation is just speculation. It's irrelevant if it supports my narrative.

    Statewide poll is more relevant than speculation of a district poll.

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    Support of the affected district is relevant, it has nothing to do with whether it's AOC's or not. You don't like the speculation because it doesn't help your narrative. Statewide support is far less relevant than the likely non-support of those affected directly.
    As I was saying:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...-estate-2019-2

    Good. I'm glad predatory real estate speculators got in' punched. Here's what the RMTs, Nathans, and Cowboys don't consider: Once Amazon would start building, real estate owners start raising the rent on locals and local businesses, fully intent on, say, driving out the local coffee shop owner in hopes a in' Starbucks franchise replaces it.

    Also, it's not guaranteed the surrounding local community would see an economic boost because the Amazon employees still have to spend money there, when in a city like New York, it's probable they would commute from outside the area. California is the same way, although not as densely packed. You have a major employer in a run-down area that people commute to, preferring not to live or really patronize businesses in the run-down area. And as often is the case, the run-down area gets even more run-down because real estate speculators, acting on the logic that the business coming into the area would boost its surroundings, buy up property and raise rent. Then when things don't go as planned, you have a bunch of vacant buildings in the area due to the real estate speculators sitting on the property until they can finally sell it/lease it for a profit.

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    Something tells me the district is full of people that support politicians that protect illegals and push for open borders but are now concerned about displacement. Selfish people tbh.

    I've heard some outcry about gentrification. Why? Why wouldn't we want to improve the area?

    People move to an area and improve it. Bad.

    Illegals move to an area and... Good.

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    Support of the affected district is relevant, it has nothing to do with whether it's AOC's or not. You don't like the speculation because it doesn't help your narrative. Statewide support is far less relevant than the likely non-support of those affected directly.
    But what about all the people in Utica and Rochester who wanted NYC to take it up the ass in sacrificing property tax revenue!

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    The dropout with a GED calling a degree from Boston University a education, you really can't make this stuff up
    it's funny how you want to try to keep insulting me just because i got a GED but leave out the fact that i also go an Associate's Degree so why not just harp on that?

    you're a ing re just like AOC is with her economics background. if you were to put 2 and 2 together you'd realize how out there she is and how real economics play no part in her outlandish ideas.

    either way, you're still a got.

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    Goodness more concern about displacement by mid.

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    As I was saying:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...-estate-2019-2

    Good. I'm glad predatory real estate speculators got in' punched. Here's what the RMTs, Nathans, and Cowboys don't consider: Once Amazon would start building, real estate owners start raising the rent on locals and local businesses, fully intent on, say, driving out the local coffee shop owner in hopes a in' Starbucks franchise replaces it.

    Also, it's not guaranteed the surrounding local community would see an economic boost because the Amazon employees still have to spend money there, when in a city like New York, it's probable they would commute from outside the area. California is the same way, although not as densely packed. You have a major employer in a run-down area that people commute to, preferring not to live or really patronize businesses in the run-down area. And as often is the case, the run-down area gets even more run-down because real estate speculators, acting on the logic that the business coming into the area would boost its surroundings, buy up property and raise rent. Then when things don't go as planned, you have a bunch of vacant buildings in the area due to the real estate speculators sitting on the property until they can finally sell it/lease it for a profit.
    So you saying all those 100+? cities vying for Amazon to come to their city are crazy? That this is the effect that a big employer brings? You really think that a place where 25k people go to everyday is going to be surrounded by a bunch of vacant buildings. Those properties are not going to be sitting long. We're not talking Google here which provides free food for its employees. Amazon doesn't. Where do you think people will eat breakfast/lunch/maybe dinner if they work late?

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    Something tells me the district is full of people that support politicians that protect illegals and push for open borders but are now concerned about displacement. Selfish people tbh.

    I've heard some outcry about gentrification. Why? Why wouldn't we want to improve the area?

    People move to an area and improve it. Bad.

    Illegals move to an area and... Good.
    Because the area doesn't always neatly "gentrify" like logic says it would. There's these things called cars and trains that allow someone to live outside the area of their place of work. Combine this with the rise in online retail, and there's no guarantee the surrounding area flourishes with commerce. Then all that's left is a bunch of blighted buildings that real estate speculators stubbornly don't do anything with hoping something eventually happens that will allow them to sell/lease at a profit. This exact same thing happens all the time in California since we're such a populated state with many cities within 10-20 miles of each other, meaning if you build something like an Amazon in Stockton, CA (very run down city), they're going to live in whatever the nearest nicest city is and just commute to Stockton for work.

    I don't know what that district's community supports, but I do know the councilman who represents the district was against Amazon. Councilmen usually have accurate reading of their cons uents' collective pulse.

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    it's funny how you want to try to keep insulting me just because i got a GED but leave out the fact that i also go an Associate's Degree so why not just harp on that?

    you're a ing re just like AOC is with her economics background. if you were to put 2 and 2 together you'd realize how out there she is and how real economics play no part in her outlandish ideas.

    either way, you're still a got.
    But muh associates degree

    i would think you were more intelligent if you would have just gotten ur ged tbh. An associates degree is generally an entirely worthless degree with the exception of a select few degrees.

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    But muh associates degree

    i would think you were more intelligent if you would have just gotten ur ged tbh. An associates degree is generally an entirely worthless degree with the exception of a select few degrees.
    Give me koriwhat and his GED/AA than this idiot with her BS with honors in ECONOMICS.

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    So you saying all those 100+? cities vying for Amazon to come to their city are crazy? That this is the effect that a big employer brings? You really think that a place where 25k people go to everyday is going to be surrounded by a bunch of vacant buildings. Those properties are not going to be sitting long. We're not talking Google here which provides free food for its employees. Amazon doesn't. Where do you think people will eat breakfast/lunch/maybe dinner if they work late?
    No. Just that not every city is created equal. Of course Mayors are going to be foaming at the mouth to bring in Amazon, but Mayors don't unequivocally call the shots, which is why we have councilmen as a counterbalance. No good Amazon's Queens location does the residents of Queens if Manhattan is reaping all the rewards. I've seen this situation play out in California a lot.

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    Whoever this Dem is has the goods about this girl:

    tim pool who got popular from coverage of the occupy wallstreet movement. he had a pretty interesting podcast with joe rogan recently discussing pol's and jack dorsey's podcast the week prior.

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    But muh associates degree

    i would think you were more intelligent if you would have just gotten ur ged tbh. An associates degree is generally an entirely worthless degree with the exception of a select few degrees.
    both are worthless just like most held by those coming out of a 4 yr college. either way, no god damn degree is going to help me in the field i work in so what exactly are you trying to get at you weak ing troll?

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    So you saying all those 100+? cities vying for Amazon to come to their city are crazy? That this is the effect that a big employer brings? You really think that a place where 25k people go to everyday is going to be surrounded by a bunch of vacant buildings. Those properties are not going to be sitting long. We're not talking Google here which provides free food for its employees. Amazon doesn't. Where do you think people will eat breakfast/lunch/maybe dinner if they work late?
    The question is why give $3 billion worth of incentives to a company that is sitting on $40 billion in cash?

    To get some restaurants to lease space from that same company?

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    The question is why give $3 billion worth of incentives to a company that is sitting on $40 billion in cash?

    To get some restaurants to lease space from that same company?
    Don't mattah. Jerbs R comin!

    As I said, LIC wasn't hurting for more jerbs. 3.4% unemployment rate. Why didn't Amazon go build in in' Detroit if they're so concerned about creating jerbs that would actually have a socioeconomic benefit?

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    Here's the latest snafu to happen when a city decided to give a multi-billion dollar tech company promising JERBS! a tax break:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...oxconn-s-plans

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    Don't mattah. Jerbs R comin!

    As I said, LIC wasn't hurting for more jerbs. 3.4% unemployment rate. Why didn't Amazon go build in in' Detroit if they're so concerned about creating jerbs that would actually have a socioeconomic benefit?
    Right. I'm happy Austin seems to be getting off the incentive bandwagon yet the jerbs keep coming in. I think Williamson County is probably going to bend over for Apple though; Apple is definitely hurting with only $243 billion on hand.

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    The question is why give $3 billion worth of incentives to a company that is sitting on $40 billion in cash?

    To get some restaurants to lease space from that same company?
    Let's see - $27? billion or $0?

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