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We're at constant war with middle eastern holes because the MIC demands huge welfare checks. America doesn't give a about brown people overseas.
Lol. We do. Why do you think we stick around after bombing some middle eastern hole to try and nation build the country in our self-image? Many of those working menial jobs are immigrants, children of immigrants, etc. I think the majority of multiple generation Americans have moved into the skilled and educated workforce area.
We're at constant war with middle eastern holes because the MIC demands huge welfare checks. America doesn't give a about brown people overseas.
Our own stupidity.
Most of these holes aren't ready for democracy. , lately I wonder if WE are.
No argument from me there, all I'd say is that other than the AOCs of the world, I don't see very many Democrats advocating for "open borders".
Might be the only time I've ever agreed with Ann Coulter, but she was on Bill Maher not to long ago and flat out said to the audience (paraphrased), "I know I'm saying this to an audience that hates me but there's a reason that the Koch Brothers and all the other corporatists you hate want more immigration from Mexico."
Was Lebron James innate athleticism and height a result of the "fruits of his labor?" Is a billionaire who was born into a family of millionaires who was educated at the best schools, had access to his parents network of influential friends, received loans from his parents to start his business, all that the result of the "fruits of his labor?" You're vastly underestimating the role luck plays in this case. You can handwave it away as "envy" and insult the people whose lives are very much affected by income equality as "whiners" all you want, but that doesn't make it morally just.
How is taxation "theft" when the money from that taxation is socialized across society? How much you want to bet Lebron James enjoyed the "fruits" of social programs while growing up? Your argument is and a weak attempt to logically and emotionally justify selfishness and greed. Aren't you supposed to be a Christian? Again, rich man, eye of the needle, camel, heaven.
Ann Coulter loses me when she advocates a wall instead of putting assholes like Trump in jail for hiring illegals. As long as there is no consequence for hiring illegals it's open borders from the right too.
We don't have one.
Our own stupidity.
Most of these holes aren't ready for democracy. , lately I wonder if WE are.
Yeah I was only agreeing with her general observation that Democrats who want immigration in the name ofmuh diversity
you don't seriously think we do this in order to help the natives of that country, do you?
That's what they sell it as
I hated seeing Bernie flip flop on immigration to court the muh diversity crowd.Yeah I was only agreeing with her general observation that Democrats who want immigration in the name of
Meh its a Representative Democracy. The fact that the Representatives typically turn into self serving s is unfortunate.
The muh diversity crowd is the biggest threat to the Democratic party right now. It's really not that many people but they're the loudest and most obnoxious Democrats out there so the end result is them being overrepresented at the expense of populist Democrats.I hated seeing Bernie flip flop on immigration to court the muh diversity crowd.
It's not representative. AOC is the one with the majority view on taxation. We live under minority rule thanks to having a senate and the electoral college, as well as disenfranchisement of an entire major city in DC. The rest of the first world must think it's nuts that the GOP presidential candidate has only gotten more votes once in the last thirty years and yet we had two terms of Bush and now one of Trump.
My feeling on immigration is that's hard for me to be consistent with the fact that it was okay for my ancestors (and the ancestors of the majority of Americans) to flee some hole situation (persecution, war, famine) to "the land of opportunity" in order to better their lives, but it's not okay for recent immigrants. Sure, we can say our ancestors did it legally, but the process was much easier then. Maybe this should be a hard states right issue? California needs them (natives don't want those fruit picking jobs here), where Minnesota probably doesn't.Yeah I was only agreeing with her general observation that Democrats who want immigration in the name of
I knew the Syrian refugees were going to completely the Democrats in 2016. Who in his right mind wants to import a lunatic backwards religion that makes the southern baptists look like tree huggers? The Syrian refugees are why we have such a disgusting facist movement in Europe and probably why we have one in power here too.
That said, immigrants need to do more work on their end to demonstrate they care about the country they're coming to. When you see these caravans marching along flying Honduran flags, it sends a bad message and pisses people off.
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We also have gerrymandering and a system where people in certain areas regularly need to wait 8 hours in line on election day to vote when other people can mail a ballot in from their house.
That's before mentioning the fact that we have a two party system where neither party has America's majority view on taxation and healthcare as part of its platform.
This again?
Never heard of the Marshall plan or reconstruction of Japan? It didn't "just happen" in the 70's, their newly rebuilt industries just matured into real compe ion. The US cars in the 70's were and Japan kicked our ass. It's like a lot of developing countries have better cell systems than we do because they weren't building on top of old hard wire systems and got to start from scratch with the latest technology.
Ford Pinto anyone?
Disregard. Accidentally double posted.
Yeah this is where I'm 100% in Trump's corner and it's also why I don't view the Southern border immigrants the same way as Ellis Island immigrants. We have 3rd generation hispanics here who don't speak a lick of English because their family never assimilated and they still cheer for the Mexico soccer team in the world cup. You can call it racist all you want but if you want to waive the Mexican flag and cheer for Mexico in the olympics then stay in ing Mexico. When my ancestors fled the USSR to escape persecution they didn't come to America and hang banners of Stalin outside of their house.
Regarding Syrian refugees, you're never going to convince me that of the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees (a disproportionately high number of which are men in their 20s and 30s coming over alone) who are mostly dirt poor don't have any extremists or terrorists among them. I'm sure Europeans think the amount of mass shootings we have is insane (they'd be right), but I think the amount of terrorist attacks they have is insane to when they're knowingly letting the potential terrorists in the door.
Wonder if that was due to Arizona's comparatively less population density (meaning they could more easily move to isolated areas and build insular communities)? As you know, I'm from SoCal, and everyone I grew up with, regardless of ethnicity, was fully assimilated. I can't remember hearing a word of Spanish on the playground or even out and about in most cases. Today, it's different, obviously, even in SoCal. Can't get away from hearing Spanish
I eat occasionally in the (San Antonio) downtown Luby's at lunch and at least a third and probably half the tables are speaking Spanish. It is an even higher percentage in the local mexican food dives I go to. I have adults all the time walking in the door looking for a job that can't speak any english. I get that a second language is tough (my broken spanish sucks) but damn, guys...at least TRY to assimilate.Wonder if that was due to Arizona's comparatively less population density (meaning they could more easily move to isolated areas and build insular communities)? As you know, I'm from SoCal, and everyone I grew up with, regardless of ethnicity, was fully assimilated. I can't remember hearing a word of Spanish on the playground or even out and about in most cases. Today, it's different, obviously, even in SoCal. Can't get away from hearing Spanish
Simmer down granpa. LOL Luby's.
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