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  1. 02-23-2019 #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
    ST populated by enlightened progreesives and the occasional "vaguely intelligent conservative".

    Yeah, ok. Enjoy the condescension casserole.
    THIS PLACE WAS A PEARL ON A SATIN PILLOW!
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    I'm only here for the mildly entertaining posts.

    If you want real political debates, watch IQ^2 debates on youtube.

    Or here https://www.intelligencesquaredus.org
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    THIS PLACE WAS A PEARL ON A SATIN PILLOW!
    Ive lost quite a bit of weight since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabom2
    So 1 in 10 people might be illegal in the US?
    you think that’s bad, there’s literally millions of Alex Jones listeners who claim (with zero evidence) that there are 50+ million illegals in the US
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
    Jesus would be considered a lib by republicans if he was around today.
    Jesus would be considered a Putin Russian puppet by Democraps today tbqh
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
    Ive lost quite a bit of weight since then.
    I hope that's a good thing, TB.

    (Drugs, disease and divorce being the usual culprits.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    I hope that's a good thing, TB.

    (Drugs, disease and divorce being the usual culprits.)
    Certainly reduced my satin pillow. LOL
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  8. 02-23-2019 #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightpulp
    He's in his Libertarian phase. I went from leaning socialist (like real socialist, not social democracy) to Libertarianism because it's a solid and sensible idea in a vacuum, with its main selling point being limited government invention (this idea is attractive because, historically, governments have been bad actors). But for Libertarianism to work in the real world, you'd need a society of near-perfect ethical and rational agents.

    Example: A Libertarian would argue there's no need for an FDA, because a food or drug company wouldn't knowingly bring to market a potentially harmful/substandard project since doing so would hurt profits long term. Nice logic. Except that's not how it works in the real world. If a drug company knows 5% of its patients experience dangerous side-effects and runs a cost benefit analysis that to make the drug 100% safe would cost an additional 50 million in research and development vs. 20 million in settled lawsuits/fines, they're going with the latter, especially if they're a publicly traded corporation. The Libertarian supply-side theory also doesn't work in the real world, at the macro corporate level at least.

    I would say I'm a micro-Libertarian in that I believe small businesses should enjoy more tax cuts and a less regulated environment (as long as the less regulation doesn't have social consequences) than their corporate counterparts.
    Libertarians constantly try to qualify the difference between capitalism and “crony capitalism” but they can’t logically explain how “limited government” will lead to the elimination of crony capitalism or why crony capitalism has only gotten more out of control as there’s been more deregulation.

    Im also never going to understand why Libertarians claim that they want as little interraction between the public and private sector as possible yet they support the Citizens United SCOTUS ruling. It’s a blatant contradiction they can’t ever explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
    Jesus would be considered a lib by republicans if he was around today.
    And JFK would be considered a right wing extremist by today's left
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    And JFK would be considered a right wing extremist by today's left
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    And JFK would be considered a right wing extremist by today's left
    Explain.
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    on a completely unrelated tangent, this thumbnail schema of kinds of stupidity is a good reminder that intelligence and advanced specialization aren't necessarily proof against it.

    there's much more to life than being right, online or anywhere else.

    https://www.collaborativefund.com/bl...nds-of-stupid/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Hunting
    Explain.
    Another DarrinS drive by.

    He seldom circles back to unpack his own comments, but that's probably smart: his ratio of self-immolating takes is very high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    Another DarrinS drive by.

    He seldom circles back to unpack his own comments, but that's probably smart: his ratio of self-immolating takes is very high.
    I’m guessing this has something to do with tax cuts and how today’s Liberals don’t support anyone who cuts taxes . IIRC it was either Darrin or that Yonivore re who tried to argue before that today’s Liberals would hate JFK for his tax cuts.

    Of course, that’d be a stupid argument to make that ignores how cutting the top marginal rate from 91% to 70% and the corporate tax rate from 52% to 48% (what JFK did) is completely different from cutting the top marginal rate from 39.6% to 37% while eliminating deductions that primarily benefited the middle class, and also cutting the corporate tax rate from 35% to 22%, with no plan on how the tax cuts would be paid for (what Trump did).

    It also ignores the fact that the top marginal rate under JFKs plan (70%) is the same top marginal rate that one of the party’s most progressive figures (AOC) is advocating for, but has stupid ever stopped Darrin before?
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    is glib for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlov
    He's no more independent than you are.
    So, you're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    And JFK would be considered a right wing extremist by today's left
    And if JFK was around today the Sean Hannitys, Fox News, and Daily Wires would demonize him and pretend hes a dangerous, womanizing piece of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurtacular
    So, you're not.
    Not what?

    I've voted for Republicans and Democrats in the past. I'll consider voting for Republicans again when they stop trying to take the vote away from American citizens who have done nothing wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    Another DarrinS drive by.

    He seldom circles back to unpack his own comments, but that's probably smart: his ratio of self-immolating takes is very high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    Dennis Prager. Certainly wouldn’t be biased on the matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenDwayne
    Dennis Prager. Certainly wouldn’t be biased on the matter
    That wasn't Dennis Prager. It was Larry Elder.
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    Darrin will never back up an argument himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    That wasn't Dennis Prager. It was Larry Elder.
    So any thoughts on the matter yourself or just a youtube video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS
    And JFK would be considered a right wing extremist by today's left
    For wanting a 65% top tax rate? So 5 points is the difference between right winger and socialist nutcase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    For wanting a 65% top tax rate? So 5 points is the difference between right winger and socialist nutcase?
    The actual tax plan he passed ended up at 70% iirc.
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