They have put the team on a dreary treadmill of mediocrity and called it “staying compe ive”..

[superbigtime]

sad state of affairs. RESET

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Losing Kawhi disrupted whatever long-term strategy the Spurs had in place so, yeah, there's going to be a "reorganization" needed. I think the FO just did what they could last off season to get through that fiasco. This year's team took a dip defensively, and that's really what's hurting the Spurs vs. last year.

[Ocotillo]

Losing Kawhi disrupted whatever long-term strategy the Spurs had in place so, yeah, there's going to be a "reorganization" needed. I think the FO just did what they could last off season to get through that fiasco. This year's team took a dip defensively, and that's really what's hurting the Spurs vs. last year.

Yeah, even though Kawhi did not play hardly last year, losing Danny Green and Kyle Anderson coupled with this year's injuries really destroyed the defense.

[Hoops Czar]

Pop deserves to go out however he wants, tbh..he's the best coach of all-time, this franchise will never see anybody like him again..

He didn't want to coach a lottery team in his final years and he believed DeRozan would be good enough to ensure that..it looked like a sound plan early on, but you can't blame somebody for mental health issues which have detailed the Spurs..just unfortunate for that + Murray's injury that killed the plan for this season..

If Pop is the greatest coach of all time, there's no words to describe the greatness of Tim Duncan, turning water into wine by transforming a slightly better than average head coach into the all-time greatest.

[TD 21]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276411

Great minds . . . welcome back.

Glad OP is back. The forum was starting to get overflooded by vanilla posters and noobs that thought PATFO would get their thumbs out of their hairy asses at the deadline.

Truth is, this is what PATFO wanted for Pop's creampie (I mean farewell.. oops) tour. Be good enough to be a 7-8th seed, not bad enough to tank for the future. Their mantra of getting over one's self applies to everyone but them. Their selfishness has set this team back a decade.

[YGWHI]

Yeah, even though Kawhi did not play hardly last year, losing Danny Green and Kyle Anderson coupled with this year's injuries really destroyed the defense.

But no one forced Spurs to lose Danny and Kyle.
Danny Green was in Spurs' trade talks since 2017 offseason, he heard many rumors about it. And they just didn't want to pay Kyle last summer.

The Spurs didn't get forced to trade Kawhi either.
If a player asks for a trade it doesn't mean the team HAS to trade him.

They could have opted to keep him this season. Force him to play in 2019...If he refuses, the league would finally fine him every game he sits. He would get exposed while his value in 2020 FA would get lower and lower...

This team is struggling anyway...who cares if the Spurs wouldn't get anything for Kawhi?

At least they would have sent a strong message to the league "We're the f*ucking Spurs. This is our team and our city. We're in control. We don't give a about players' demands" "Do you want leave? Yeah...We don't trade you"

Trading Kawhi was the weakest move in the Spurs' franchise story.

[slick'81]

But no one forced Spurs to lose Danny and Kyle.
Danny Green was in Spurs' trade talks since 2017 offseason, he heard many rumors about it. And they just didn't want to pay Kyle last summer.

The Spurs didn't get forced to trade Kawhi either.
If a player asks for a trade it doesn't mean the team HAS to trade him.

They could have opted to keep him this season. Force him to play in 2019...If he refuses, the league would finally fine him every game he sits. He would get exposed while his value in 2020 FA would get lower and lower...

This team is struggling anyway...who cares if the Spurs wouldn't get anything for Kawhi?

At least they would have sent a strong message to the league "We're the f*ucking Spurs. This is our team and our city. We're in control. We don't give a about players' demands" "Do you want leave? Yeah...We don't trade you"

Trading Kawhi was the weakest move in the Spurs' franchise story.

Worse then swapping rodman for will perdue!?

[YGWHI]

Worse then swapping rodman for will perdue!?

Almost...

[Hoops Czar]

Worse then swapping rodman for will perdue!?

Much worse. Kawhi wasn't in the Casinos on Spurs off days. Kawhi didn't show up hours late to practice or 20 minutes before tip off like Rodman. Rodman's bout with depression makes DeRozan's look like a sunny day in the park.

[slick'81]

Much worse. Kawhi wasn't in the Casinos on Spurs off days. Kawhi didn't show up hours late to practice or 20 minutes before tip off like Rodman. Rodman's bout with depression makes DeRozan's look like a sunny day in the park.

Yea atleast demar takes his meds tbh

[spursistan]

Any suckers left out there for this joke FO?

Imagine they actually about to fail to clear the "mediocre hurdle" with such bloated payroll and will be lottery team instead..

[TD 21]

They deserve the worst possible result, which is to fall to 9th right at the very of the season and end up with the 14th pick . . . there's no excuse for this atrociously assembled roster. They'd be the laughing stock of the league if anyone outside of their fan base were actually paying one iota of attention to them.

[BatManu20]

Knicks throwing alley-oops off the backboard against us

[SuperCam]

someone bump the posts from the pre-season popsuckers who insisted 47 wins w/ no kiwi + decancer = 2nd seed

[spursistan]

They deserve the worst possible result, which is to fall to 9th right at the very of the season and end up with the 14th pick . . . there's no excuse for this atrociously assembled roster. They'd be the laughing stock of the league if anyone outside of their fan base were actually paying one iota of attention to them.

Yep, Really need to miss the playoffs, now..There is absolutely no point in getting clowned by Warriors for a 3rd year in a row..

The bottom has fell out for this franchise I'm afraid. This summer is about damage control-- that's if they have any competent bone left in them..

[timtonymanu]

But Kawhi is the reason we're in this situation.

He may have had a hand in it, but this insane front office signed Gasoft and Mills to extensions before he bailed. Just a horribly managed team.

[RD2191]

But Kawhi is the reason we're in this situation.

He may have had a hand in it, but this insane front office signed Gasoft and Mills to extensions before he bailed. Just a horribly managed team.

As I said before, the only thing Kawhi leaving did was expose this ass roster.

[timtonymanu]

Any suckers left out there for this joke FO?

Imagine they actually about to fail to clear the "mediocre hurdle" with such bloated payroll and will be lottery team instead..

What's also hilarious is the Clippers trying to tank but we're in a foot race with them for 8th.

[NASpurs]

But Kawhi is the reason we're in this situation.

He may have had a hand in it, but this insane front office signed Gasoft and Mills to extensions before he bailed. Just a horribly managed team.

but Mills and Gasol were signed to compliment Kawhi's game

No wonder he bailed

[spursistan]

What's also hilarious is the Clippers trying to tank but we're in a foot race with them for 8th.

Plus they have two max slots available in the summer

Just shows what a disgusting job PATFO have done with this roster..

[J_Paco]

If Pop is the greatest coach of all time, there's no words to describe the greatness of Tim Duncan, turning water into wine by transforming a slightly better than average head coach into the all-time greatest.

Sure, give the coach and GM absolutely no credit for building and maintaining 20+ years of success in a small market. Duncan deserves a lion's share of the credit, but this organization could have taken a nosedive plenty of times between 2000 - 2011 had they not made astute, smart decisions.

Easy to question their judgementand ability when the walls are crashing down and all the key players (Duncan, Parker & Ginobili) are now gone....

[DMC]

1997 Tim Duncan ain't walkin' through that door. No Tim no ring.

[J_Paco]

They deserve the worst possible result, which is to fall to 9th right at the very of the season and end up with the 14th pick . . . there's no excuse for this atrociously assembled roster. They'd be the laughing stock of the league if anyone outside of their fan base were actually paying one iota of attention to them.

Sure, because they are "the most poorly constructed, stuck not playing modern NBA basketball team ever, blah, blah, blah....."

We get it, Pop and R.C. are the worst coach/GM combo this side of Tom Thibodeau, Scott Brooks/Ernie Grunfeld, etc, etc....

Only the astute, modern thinking fans of ST can see that the team is poorly constructed, "badly coached," running an offense counter to everyone else and worse than all (I guess)......

Or some of the same regurgitated, whiny bull since Leonard was traded and Murray tore his ACL.....

I'll make sure to grab the pacifier and Kleenex for y'all to wipe the snot and tears away.....

[J_Paco]

1997 Tim Duncan ain't walkin' through that door. No Tim no ring.

Very true, DMC. But having Timmy alone was never a guarantee of winning anything. Just look at 'Bron in Cleveland (the first time), Durant in OKC and Shaq in Orlando......

[dbreiden83080]

You own a business that has turned a profit for twenty years and this year you lost money. You would be mad, and demanding answers so this would not happen, again. or you might say, "Oh well. We did so well for twenty years I guess I should expect to lose money for quite a while cause my compe ion has always lost money.

This is a business where rebuilding is now needed for the first time in 20 years. So the team needs to go young, and start all over again and it will now be a "process" as they say. I expect this is Pop's last year as coach. The whole team will go young. So you stick with the team during these upcoming rough years, or jump ship. Up to you. But there will be no quick fix coming next year or even the year after.