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    But Kawhi is the reason we're in this situation.

    He may have had a hand in it, but this insane front office signed Gasoft and Mills to extensions before he bailed. Just a horribly managed team.
    "this roster was set up for Kawhi" is one of the biggest jokes said in spurstalk,
    as if playing with dwarves was the ideal roster for Leonard, who would have to work defensively, and at the playoffs, would be the only guy who could score consistently

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    Sure, because they are "the most poorly constructed, stuck not playing modern NBA basketball team ever, blah, blah, blah....."

    We get it, Pop and R.C. are the worst coach/GM combo this side of Tom Thibodeau, Scott Brooks/Ernie Grunfeld, etc, etc....

    Only the astute, modern thinking fans of ST can see that the team is poorly constructed, "badly coached," running an offense counter to everyone else and worse than all (I guess)......

    Or some of the same regurgitated, whiny bull since Leonard was traded and Murray tore his ACL.....

    I'll make sure to grab the pacifier and Kleenex for y'all to wipe the snot and tears away.....
    I mean it’s still gonna be true. But go read some pop sucker opinion that this team will be in good shape if it makes you feel better.

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    I mean it’s still gonna be true. But go read some pop sucker opinion that this team will be in good shape if it makes you feel better.
    Nah, they aren't the worst but they do lack elite talent, he's had much of his top brass (Marks, Budenholzer, etc) poached and lacked the foresight the assemble a more versatile team (we all agree on those things). I also understand the frustration, disappointment and apathy some have with this current team and how he has been built (I've been on the "please trade Patty Mills" boat for 2 or 3 years) it, but the reality is they aren't built to compete as an elite or even above average team.


    I'll just enjoy the games they do win, hope for more growth/development of the young players and that they can shift courses to at least a more compe ive and versatile on court product. This team was stuck in neutral as soon as Kawhi/Danny were traded and DeJounte tore his ACL.....

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    but Mills and Gasol were signed to compliment Kawhi's game

    No wonder he bailed
    I will never not be stunned at how ridiculous the Mills/Gasol signings were.

    Right after Mills and Gasol proved they weren't good enough to be on the floor with the Warriors and couldn't possibly play the crunch time against them ... They locked them up and obliterated over a quarter of their capspace. And there was no doubt that those guys would crumble as they aged, getting even worse.

    Now Gasol can't even play off the bench against one of the two worst teams in the league.

    And Mills is proving how overrated locker room presence is year after year. Without White the team is lottery. Talent matters more than culture, being able to play matters more than froggy dances.

    Now the Spurs get to pick some firsts at 13-19 and 28-30 and see those guys get over themselves in Austin next year or rot overseas as stashes.

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    They desperately need to miss the playoffs with few more embarrassing losses along the way. If they make it, this front office is delusional enough to standpad thinking they are a post-ACL Murray away from a Top 3 seed..

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    Very true, DMC. But having Timmy alone was never a guarantee of winning anything. Just look at 'Bron in Cleveland (the first time), Durant in OKC and Shaq in Orlando......
    Well no they wouldn't have him out there by himself. Without Tim Duncan Spurs are 0 and forever

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    They desperately need to miss the playoffs with few more embarrassing losses along the way. If they make it, this front office is delusional enough to standpad thinking they are a post-ACL Murray away from a Top 3 seed..
    It's only embarrassing to the fans who have unrealistic expectations. It's not embarrassing to the team, or the franchise. They have five championship trophies. They have lots of house money to play with.

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    It's only embarrassing to the fans who have unrealistic expectations. It's not embarrassing to the team, or the franchise. They have five championship trophies. They have lots of house money to play with.
    Just live in the past. Got it. Not.

    It's embarrassing now.
    Yes nothing can take away the Tim Duncan led teams. That he got 5 with Pock continues to speak of how awesome Tim was.

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    Just live in the past. Got it. Not.

    It's embarrassing now.
    Yes nothing can take away the Tim Duncan led teams. That he got 5 with Pock continues to speak of how awesome Tim was.
    30 teams.. only one hasnt missed the playoffs in 20 years. Spurs have as many rings has any team in the league during that time. There's a difference between living in the past and understanding the situation. If you're embarrassed it's only because you're part of the group of people who never saw the Spurs miss the playoffs and always had Tim Duncan until recently. And in a league that has teams that either stack or tank it's refreshing to have a team that at least tries to win.

    I love the Spurs because they're different than other teams...Followed by I wish the Spurs could be more like other teams.

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    30 teams.. only one hasnt missed the playoffs in 20 years. Spurs have as many rings has any team in the league during that time. There's a difference between living in the past and understanding the situation. If you're embarrassed it's only because you're part of the group of people who never saw the Spurs miss the playoffs and always had Tim Duncan until recently. And in a league that has teams that either stack or tank it's refreshing to have a team that at least tries to win.
    No, losing to the Knicks and having the potty mouth no talent nagger blab about it at the Oskars is embarrassing.
    As is signing Patty and proclaiming him the leader and massive overpay of Gasteal while losing Kawhi. Who btw, perhaps someday timvp will be able to say what his sauses say is Kwa's side of the medical story. Could be further embarrassing.

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    They desperately need to miss the playoffs with few more embarrassing losses along the way. If they make it, this front office is delusional enough to standpad thinking they are a post-ACL Murray away from a Top 3 seed..
    What’s worse is even if we miss the playoffs, they still won’t do due to the loyalty factor. This FO never learns.

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    What’s worse is even if we miss the playoffs, they still won’t do due to the loyalty factor. This FO never learns.
    Anyone here remember Derek Anderson and his claiming the Spurs weren’t loyal. Now that is biting us in the ass the other way.

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    What's also hilarious is the Clippers trying to tank but we're in a foot race with them for 8th.

    in' A...There sure are a lot of hilarious and sad ways to see how badly the season is going.

    In my head I picture that meme of the dog enjoying his coffee at the table while the flames and smoke engulf him, but instead of the dog it's Pop with a glass of wine or something.

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    Anyone here remember Derek Anderson and his claiming the Spurs weren’t loyal. Now that is biting us in the ass the other way.
    Spurs FO forgot what brought them les. Funny how loyalty deals and "being fair" is no longer working when there are no legitimate superstars to carry the team.

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    No, losing to the Knicks and having the potty mouth no talent nagger blab about it at the Oskars is embarrassing.
    As is signing Patty and proclaiming him the leader and massive overpay of Gasteal while losing Kawhi. Who btw, perhaps someday timvp will be able to say what his sauses say is Kwa's side of the medical story. Could be further embarrassing.
    The Spurs are mentioned at the Oscars. That's all you should get out of that.

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    Spurs FO forgot what brought them les. Funny how loyalty deals and "being fair" is no longer working when there are no legitimate superstars to carry the team.
    How could they forgot what brought them les? It retired a couple years ago. There's no way in they throw together a bunch of scrubs and some rejects from other teams b level stars and win a le. Who in the league would come to San Antonio and improve their le chances? Name one person.

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    The saddest part of all this, the Spurs could have been right where they are now, battling for the 8 seed, if they'd just traded away kawhi for draft picks. Now, they're saddled with demar's albatross of a contract and are not getting much better anytime in the near future.

    it's hard to comprehend how ty this front office had been for about the past 3 seasons. The incompetence is amazing.

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    The saddest part of all this, the Spurs could have been right where they are now, battling for the 8 seed, if they'd just traded away kawhi for draft picks. Now, they're saddled with demar's albatross of a contract and are not getting much better anytime in the near future.

    it's hard to comprehend how ty this front office had been for about the past 3 seasons. The incompetence is amazing.

    popsuckers were in full damage control when the wiser members of this forum were explaining that PATFO should have taken the two lottery picks from the Clippers + Tobias Harris.

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    Rock bottom as a franchise, maybe the worst in the league over the next five years given contract situations and likelihood of aquiring a star in the draft. Only the wizards and magic more futile going forward perhaps. Looking at a slog of boring basketball to compete for 35 to 45 wins with no realistic shot at WCF in that span.

    not since 1987 has the outlook been this hopeless, and there's no DRob coming to save the team.

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    Re-signing Byrn when you're still overpaying Patty
    giving Gasol an extension during his retirement tour
    making Patty House your first priority in 2017
    signing post-Achilles injury Rudy Gay
    timvp thinking this year's team (even with Murray) would work

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    Re-signing Byrn when you're still overpaying Patty
    giving Gasol an extension during his retirement tour
    making Patty House your first priority in 2017
    signing post-Achilles injury Rudy Gay
    timvp thinking this year's team (even with Murray) would work
    B...b...b...but...culture! Gasol's contract is tradeable!...It still is...right?! Oh! And Bryn works hard and doesn't miss in practice!

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    Sure, because they are "the most poorly constructed, stuck not playing modern NBA basketball team ever, blah, blah, blah....."

    We get it, Pop and R.C. are the worst coach/GM combo this side of Tom Thibodeau, Scott Brooks/Ernie Grunfeld, etc, etc....

    Only the astute, modern thinking fans of ST can see that the team is poorly constructed, "badly coached," running an offense counter to everyone else and worse than all (I guess)......

    Or some of the same regurgitated, whiny bull since Leonard was traded and Murray tore his ACL.....

    I'll make sure to grab the pacifier and Kleenex for y'all to wipe the snot and tears away.....
    Angry, hypocritical apologist.

    Except I was saying much of what I've said since before these things took place.
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    Re-signing Byrn when you're still overpaying Patty
    giving Gasol an extension during his retirement tour
    making Patty House your first priority in 2017
    signing post-Achilles injury Rudy Gay
    timvp thinking this year's team (even with Murray) would work
    Bryn costs peanuts, they thought he could develop into something, they were wrong but they gambled there, i dont have a problem with that
    Gasol and Mills are two major mistakes
    Gay was a low cost high reward if he could somewhat get back to his old self, i have zero problem with that gamble
    No team with LMA and Derozan as your 50 million duo can work, they cost too much to be this incompetent.
    Bottom line, this team is overachieving imo, tbh.

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    Angry, hypocritical apologist.

    Except I was saying much of what I've said since before these things took place.
    How am I angry or hypocritical? I've wanted the team to begin rebuilding the last two seasons, but that isn't the direction they (meaning Pop and R.C.) want to head in. So, instead of constantly ing, moaning and regurgitating the same thing over and over again I hang back and see how things go.

    Everyone (here) would like the Spurs to be championship contenders forever, but eventually the lack of high lottery picks, not being a "destination" city and losing Duncan (mostly), Parker, Ginobili and Leonard would catch up to them.

    And I agree with a lot what is said as far as poor management decisions, allocation of finances and line ups/rotations, but I'm also not delusional enough to believe that I know or understand more about the NBA game than the two primary figures on the team.

    Or that Pop's sheer "arrogance" has held back the team the last 4 years and not the fact that they been without a lottery pick in 22 years.

    You on the other hand believe you do....

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    How am I angry or hypocritical? I've wanted the team to begin rebuilding the last two seasons, but that isn't the direction they (meaning Pop and R.C.) want to head in. So, instead of constantly ing, moaning and regurgitating the same thing over and over again I hang back and see how things go.

    Everyone (here) would like the Spurs to be championship contenders forever, but eventually the lack of high lottery picks, not being a "destination" city and losing Duncan (mostly), Parker, Ginobili and Leonard would catch up to them.

    And I agree with a lot what is said as far as poor management decisions, allocation of finances and line ups/rotations, but I'm also not delusional enough to believe that I know or understand more about the NBA game than the two primary figures on the team.

    Or that Pop's sheer "arrogance" has held back the team the last 4 years and not the fact that they been without a lottery pick in 22 years.

    You on the other hand believe you do....
    You're angry and a hypocrite because virtually every post is you ing, moaning and regurgitating the same thing over and over again too.

    My problem with them is that so much of the damage was not only self inflicted, but obvious at the time. All of the things that were naturally supposed to bring them down didn't, yet they still found a way to screw it up. Sure, they couldn't do anything about s bag, but they didn't have to accept one of the worst trades in recent memory and set the franchise back years.
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