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    First off im not a Trump voter never voted for him and never would My vote is already written for Tulsi then Bernie if Tulsi gets obliterated.

    You are assuming Hillary dismantled her infraestructure. Its still there. She also still own DNC which is all she would need. Its not like she will have to start from scratch. Biden has less of an infraestructure.

    Only thing that would discourage would be Bernies meteoric rise which is a thing right now. But media and DNC already working against that.

    In other words she can be back at the flip of a switch
    Her infrastructure dismantled itself, it's what always happens after campaigns end, even when the candidate has magical Clinton powers. The people who worked for her campaign moved on with their lives, and it's not like they're waiting at the edge of their seat ready to return to empress Hillary.

    $1000 she doesn't run. Sound good?

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    I don't get his JFK comparison but compared to some of the incoherent gibberish we hear from other candidates like Kamala Harris who've gone from being corporate shills to just blindly spouting "Medicare for all!!! More free !!!" Brown is beginning to look like a moderate when he's anything but.

    I'd compare Brown more to FDR than JFK because of his appeal to the working class white voter.
    150% agree on Kamala

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    who cares? beto is a like a few here that like to harp on me. all the same caliber of weak men.

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    who cares? beto is a like a few here that like to harp on me. all the same caliber of weak men.
    shutup sissy

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    you're one of them tbh

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    Her infrastructure dismantled itself, it's what always happens after campaigns end, even when the candidate has magical Clinton powers. The people who worked for her campaign moved on with their lives, and it's not like they're waiting at the edge of their seat ready to return to empress Hillary.

    $1000 she doesn't run. Sound good?
    You make it sound like the Hillary camp retired to Timbuktu they are all still in politics and controling the DNC

    If Biden/Kagala/Betacus all flame out she will be back

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    - Booker is a laughingstock. He won’t do

    - Kamala is a possibility, still wouldn’t rule her out completely

    - Biden might go for it, he still polls well even though no one really is excited for a Biden presidency

    - Clinton’s done. Absolutely 0% chance of running

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    I personally don’t think Beto is “the next Obama” as some have claimed. He peaked largely due to opposing the least likable politician this nation has ever produced, and now seems kinda quaint compared to a lot of these big, well-oiled political machines. Just don’t see it

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    Hes an obama lite clone

    Id still vote for him over Trump, Kagala, Betacus, Hillary, Biden

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    His physical appearance is the only issue. He's got all of the substance and no style, his voice is really raspy and as superficial as that sounds it definitely matters to the average American who doesn't care about policy as much as he wants a candidate who it'd be fun to have a beer with. People don't like the image of an egg head with disheveled hair and a nerdy voice.

    Other than that though he'd decimate Trump in an election. The entire rust belt would swing back to team blue and he'd made inroads with white voters that no Democrat has made since Bill Clinton.
    that's the only thing that really counts. Kamala Harris winning by an extra 4 points in California (64%) than Sherrod Brown's 60% doesn't. considering Kamala would get smoked in the rust belt and likely lose FL, too. Not enough EC points.

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    Yeah I’d personally prefer him to them, but I just can’t envision him outlasting Biden or Bernie

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    I prefer Bernie out of the lot, just ftr

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    Hes an obama lite clone

    Id still vote for him over Trump, Kagala, Betacus, Hillary, Biden
    who tf is Betacus?

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    I prefer Bernie out of the lot, just ftr
    you prefer communism and a pos who tried to help countries topple our own. ing unbelievable!

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    Booker

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    Booker?

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    that's the only thing that really counts. Kamala Harris winning by an extra 4 points in California (64%) than Sherrod Brown's 60% doesn't. considering Kamala would get smoked in the rust belt and likely lose FL, too. Not enough EC points.
    The concern would be that he wins the rust belt back but puts the states where Dems heavily rely on a minority population up for grabs (Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, etc.). Same thing with Bernie imo. He probably wins the rust belt back but not sure if he beats Trump in a state like Virginia in 2016.

    Dems have been smart so far in that Schumer is trying to arrange good candidates for senate in key races. Getting Gabby Giffords' husband to run against McSally was a brilliant idea. Abrams needs to run in Georgia and Julian Castro needs drop the presidency pipe dream and run against Cornyn in Texas. No one comes to mind yet but they need to start looking at candidates in Iowa/North Carolina/Maine/Colorado.

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    Look up his “Spartacus moment” if you’ve not seen it, it’s cringeworthy af

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    The concern would be that he wins the rust belt back but puts the states where Dems heavily rely on a minority population up for grabs (Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, etc.). Same thing with Bernie imo. He probably wins the rust belt back but not sure if he beats Trump in a state like Virginia in 2016.
    So sort of like a 2004 map, I get it.

    But there are more voting Hispanics than there were back then, and don't forget in 2004 Bush won 40% of the Hispanic vote. With all the wall and deport, kill, separate families business he (Trump) won't crack 30% of the Hispanic vote in those states.

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    Look up his “Spartacus moment” if you’ve not seen it, it’s cringeworthy af

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    I prefer Bernie out of the lot, just ftr
    Tulsi, Bernie in that order IMo

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    who cares? beto is a like a few here that like to harp on me. all the same caliber of weak men.
    Did Beto make fun of you too?

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    Tulsi, Bernie in that order IMo
    So if it came down to Biden and Trump, would you vote?

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    You make it sound like the Hillary camp retired to Timbuktu they are all still in politics and controling the DNC

    If Biden/Kagala/Betacus all flame out she will be back
    Meh, even if you're right at a high level, there's still candidates she can control other than those 3. Gillibrand, Beto, Klobuchar and Warren imo could all be co-opted as Clinton shills.

    Sanders and Brown are the only two who held truly progressive ideals before 2016.

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    So if it came down to Biden and Trump, would you vote?
    Probably not. Unless Biden somehow sqys aomething worth a (doubtful)

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