Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[RandomGuy]

Care to predict whether someone will be charged? (makes chicken noises)

Do you follow emptywheel like winehole does? You’re going down the same path she is trying to keep your narrative afloat.

BUK BUK BUK BUK!!!!

So, you don't want to commit to that. Probably wise, abeit totally chicken given how vociferously you are fighting this, as if your ego depends on it.

I think, as the Steele dossier said waaaay back, that there was some high level coordination of efforts, i.e. collusion, with Russian intelligence. I guessed it was data sharing, because there were and are open source reports of such. We are starting to see that, like just about everything else that can be verified, pan out.

What we will find 100% guaranteed, as Cohen's testimony confirmed, is a crooked group of people, led by a crooked conman, who would do ANYTHING to win, including selling out the country. Immoral, illegal, no matter.

Trump party will pay the price for that. Regardless of whether anyone gets charged, that collusion will extract a price at the ballot box.

I will go out on a limb here: Someone will be charged for something relating to this. My guess is his children, and quite possibly Trump himself, although he has juuuust distanced himself enough.

I give that assessment as slightly more likely than not, and with a low confidence. The needle seems to be pointing past the 50/50 mark, but is nowhere near certain.

Be happy to change my mind about that after the report is issued, and admit I was wrong in my assessment. The amount of "redacted" in what we have seen so far hints at a rather large iceberg. Dead ahead. the HMS Trump seems ill-equipped to avoid the disaster.

[RandomGuy]

Manafort was indicted a little over 3 months after his raid.

Let's give Cohen five.

I guess your goalpost is now moved to saying a pending trial of Cohen for fraud is good news for Republicans in November.

In fact, the raid itself is good news in your opinion because somehow Clinton.

Right?

What evidence do you have that Michael Cohen committed these crimes?

oooh snap.

TSA shocked that an ongoing investigation doesn't release evidence. Now we have the evidence and Cohen's ironclad guilty plea as FACT.

[RandomGuy]

I shouldn't need to explain that a payment to Stormy Daniels has nothing to with election collusion.

Guilty plea says it was.

[RandomGuy]

The entire Special Counsel investigation exists because of Comey and his leaked memos. If my conspiracy theory didn’t make sense there wouldn’t be a parallel DOJ investigation of the investigators ongoing for over a year now.

We know that there was a counterintelligence investigation before that. Whoops.

[RandomGuy]

I guess they are still waiting to be raided.

[RandomGuy]

With some of the other details we know now, "fighting back" means a lot of behind the scenes manuevering as well. Tweets like this, direct statements, will be front and center in any obstruction of justice charges.

This is looking more likely as time passes, and more evidence comes out. I would guess that Mueller has enough to charge Trump on this, which is what got Nixon and Clinton. What Trump has done, vastly exceeds what either of his predecessors did, and Trump has been doing it, like a ing idiot, IN PUBLIC.

I will go out and say that Trump will be indicted for it. The MAGA bomber and Coast Guard Lt types are the tip of the berg at that point. When Trump is charged, there will be some terrorist attack by one of his supporters.

[Spurs Homer]

With some of the other details we know now, "fighting back" means a lot of behind the scenes manuevering as well. Tweets like this, direct statements, will be front and center in any obstruction of justice charges.

This is looking more likely as time passes, and more evidence comes out. I would guess that Mueller has enough to charge Trump on this, which is what got Nixon and Clinton. What Trump has done, vastly exceeds what either of his predecessors did, and Trump has been doing it, like a ing idiot, IN PUBLIC.

I will go out and say that Trump will be indicted for it. The MAGA bomber and Coast Guard Lt types are the tip of the berg at that point. When Trump is charged, there will be some terrorist attack by one of his supporters.

[djohn2oo8]

LOL Stone

[TSA]

BUK BUK BUK BUK!!!!

So, you don't want to commit to that. Probably wise, abeit totally chicken given how vociferously you are fighting this, as if your ego depends on it.

I think, as the Steele dossier said waaaay back, that there was some high level coordination of efforts, i.e. collusion, with Russian intelligence. I guessed it was data sharing, because there were and are open source reports of such. We are starting to see that, like just about everything else that can be verified, pan out.

What we will find 100% guaranteed, as Cohen's testimony confirmed, is a crooked group of people, led by a crooked conman, who would do ANYTHING to win, including selling out the country. Immoral, illegal, no matter.

Trump party will pay the price for that. Regardless of whether anyone gets charged, that collusion will extract a price at the ballot box.

I will go out on a limb here: Someone will be charged for something relating to this. My guess is his children, and quite possibly Trump himself, although he has juuuust distanced himself enough.

I give that assessment as slightly more likely than not, and with a low confidence. The needle seems to be pointing past the 50/50 mark, but is nowhere near certain.

Be happy to change my mind about that after the report is issued, and admit I was wrong in my assessment. The amount of "redacted" in what we have seen so far hints at a rather large iceberg. Dead ahead. the HMS Trump seems ill-equipped to avoid the disaster.

I answered you yesterday dip

I’ve nevered waivered on collusion from the get go. I predict no one from Trump campaign will be charged with colluding with Russia during the election.

Thanks for making yourself look foolish running around typing chicken noises

[TSA]

[djohn2oo8]

You called Cohen a liar. So since he is a liar do you believe him about Prague or not?

[TSA]

You called Cohen a liar. So since he is a liar do you believe him about Prague or not?

Mueller believed Cohen was not in Prague and that’s good enough for me. You walked yourself into a corner again.

Do you not believe Mueller?

[djohn2oo8]

lol that’s not so subtle

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller believed Cohen was not in Prague and that’s good enough for me. You walked yourself into a corner again.

Do you not believe Mueller?

You haven’t show me Muellers quote where he said that. Show me.

[TSA]

You haven’t show me Muellers quote where he said that. Show me.

It’s in the sentencing memo. Cohen was never charged with lying about being in Prague.

Do you believe Mueller? Yes or no.

[djohn2oo8]

It’s in the sentencing memo. Cohen was never charged with lying about being in Prague.

Do you believe Mueller? Yes or no.

Show me where Mueller stayed he believed Cohen about Prague

[djohn2oo8]

I know you aren’t asking if I believe Mueller when you said him and his team were nothing but the deep state Hillary supporters

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller may have to recuse himself

RandomGuy you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

Hmmm seems here TSA didn’t find Mueller credible

[djohn2oo8]

I had no problem with the special counsel for this fabricated show but if these leaks are coming from Meuller or his team of Clinton donor lawyers Trump should fire Mueller optics be damned.

Hmm here he wanted Mueller fired

[djohn2oo8]

These are anonymous sources from the NYT and WaPo of course I will put my faith in what they are reporting.

Anonymous sources good here

[djohn2oo8]

“as soon as Mueller/the team felt his bias could affect his work on the case”

OIG found the texts. Mueller stonewalled the reason for Strzok’s demotion from Congress as long as he could.

Let’s see. Now here he says Mueller acted in bad faith

[djohn2oo8]

I'd guess it had something to do with Mueller hiding the reason for Strzok being removed from Mueller's team from congress for four months.

Once again accusing Mueller of acting in bad faith. I guess you didn’t believe him then

[djohn2oo8]

I'm of a differing opinion. I think Mueller has been in on it from the start and I think Trump and Mueller planned on loading the team up with Clinton stooges when they met the night before Mueller was appointed to Special Counsel. Give them the rope and let Horowitz hang them.

[djohn2oo8]

I’m glad Mueller is getting these guys on crimes they got away with a decade ago

Yet you said earlier in the thread Mueller wasn’t limited to the Russia angle?

[djohn2oo8]

Why would I not take the word from offices headed by an Obama and Mueller appointee?

Hmmm. Accusing Mueller again eh