Yep. The timing was strange. Why in such a rush?
That's what happens when the player tanks an entire season because his Vagina was itchy..
Yep. The timing was strange. Why in such a rush?
Cause Pop was getting pressure and the media was starting to turn on him and he couldn’t deal with that.
Nah. Since when has Pop felt pressure from the media? I would love to see that role reversal!
"No one ever predicts the wrong score on a game played yesterday."
~ Ed Chopper Jones
Better than Yogi!
Imagine the banter on this site if Kawhi somehow reups for the Raptors.
I mean the fact they have giddily thrown Green in this one to leave themselves defenseless at perhaps the most important position in today's league earns them no better than a D- grade as it is.
Boiled down to: The Spurs are going to be worse off this season having gotten a return for Kawhi then when they were when he was still on the team and hiding in NY..
Revolting stuff..
Kawhi wasn't signing a super max with us, what the are you talking about?I would take Kawhi's on one leg over DeRozan all day. GMs, too. That's the reason why Toronto didn't get many offers for him when they were desperate to dump his salary.
A bad playoffs' performer with depression disorder on a super-expensive contract? Give me bad quad/knee Kawhi!!
You won't admit it but you already know if Kawhi could have played just two-three years of a super-max contract with the Spurs...still would have been worth it.
Not the best Kawhilights -they forgot their two steals on Durant, his dunk vs Pacers in the final minutes which was 2nd best dunk of the season, his 3's in OT vs Wizards...but stil fine.
He's still clutch.
On one leg he's still the best finisher in the league
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they fkc up by letting go anderson b4 pulling the kawhi trade...
had they know they dont have any perimeter defenders after the kawhi trade, they wouldve probably match anderson
Good lord I'm glad they didn't match Anderson's 40million for 4 years offer that Memphis signed him for. That scrub ain't worth half the money
Anunoby and Siakam with whatever picks would have been a deal TBH
I deal that wouldn't have worked salary wise
Just saw Valanciunas destroy Gobert and the Jazz so help me with the math here.
Leonard/Gasol for Valanciunas/Siakam/CJ Miles/D.Wright
You get a starting worthy big man in Val for big man line ups,a promising 3/4 in Siakam (he's gonna be MIP this year but was still a prospect in the summer) for small ball,expiring D.Wright in the guard rotation and eat up Miles +1 year to offload Gasol.
Does it work salary wise and do you do it? Are we better/worse? Do the Raptors do it?
Raptors wanted to dump DeRozan salary. Losing half of their team and keeping DD wasn't an option for them.
Sadly we will never know it. Since the Spurs didn't offer him the supermax last summer.
Friend i'm a Spurs fan,i don't give a what the Raptors wanted to do behind the scenes.
First of all,even if they did actually want to trade DDR they obviously never said it out in the open cause the city loved DeRozan.
Second of all,in the negotiations when you are receiving the best by far player in the trade you only have some room to play hard ball.Trade request or not,injury or not #2 was BY FAR the best player in the trade.
Third if that Masai POS is really out to fleece you (and that's what he actually did) all it takes is one little phone call to a Woj or a Shams that said trade is imminent.
The fans,the owners,the entire NBA hears that next year the Raptors will have 3 All stars in Lowry,DeRozan AND Leonard.Masai is pretty much ed when that happens.
And last but not least,what on earth do you mean half of their team? The only player that Masai was bent on keeping was Siakam (and rightfully so).That's where you hit em,where it hurts.DeRozan? Poeltl?
,they have already traded Valanciunas,Miles and Wright for a washed 35 year old Gasol one month ago.
Toronto cared so you didn't have to. It isn't very difficult to figure out that the Spurs didn't have tons of leverage seeing as Kawhi likely won't resign with TOR.
That's all i see as responses "Toronto wanted DeMar off","Toronto cared".Like you guys were part of the negotiations and you have some special insight.
No word whatsoever on the trade i asked if it would work salary wise.No word on if you would do it (as Spurs fans,cause apparently for some strange reason two first responses were as if i was at a Toronto board),no basketball take on if the Spurs would be better one way or the other.
It doesn't work. That's 29 million coming from Toronto for 39 million going out. I would've done that deal ASAP but it's not possible to pull of. Raptors would have to send another 10 million to the Spurs
Thanks very much.So it needed more tweaking.But it was still doable.
I don't even have that big of a problem with DeRozan,we all knew what he brought to the table.My issue was that they didn't use Nephew's trade as an opportunity to help with the construction of the roster.Seeing so many players that Spurs could've used,already out of Toronto and into the lottery bound Grizzlies..while our roster has gaping holes in so many departments..not a good look.
You were just told it wouldn't work and you still say it could have been tweaked to make it doable. You are acting like you have some hidden knowledge while the rest of us are using common sense. What don't you get about Kawhi could just be a one year rental and therefore a huge gamble for Toronto? That eliminated leverage for the Spurs. It isn't very difficult to understand.
OP
Trade?
That was a trade?
I was told it wouldn't work cause of 10 mills diff in cap money going out to cap money coming in.That's cause i wanted to unload Gasol's awful contract along with Leonard.
Why are you trying so hard to push the false narrative of "You take back DeRozan or NO TRADE"?
Were you present in the phone conversation?
Did it go somewhat like:
-"Hey RC"
-"Hey Masai"
-"I want Leonard but you have to take back DeRozan.If you say no to DeRozan there is nothing to talk about"
-"But there are some other players in your roster we could work with..."
-"I said you either take DeRozan or i'll hang up on your ass you intoxicated buffoon"
Is that what happened? And we made that trade? Nah,i don't really see your point of view,and it comes from a very "strange" way to try to make excuses on behalf of PATFO for a terrible trade.
What don't you get about you can't get fleeced unless you bend over?
Are we not allowed to think of hypothetical trade scenarios with the same team we traded with as Spurfans? Why? Cause the Spurs would be so much better and the up of the FO would be so more easy for everyone to see?
I don't think Toronto wanted to get rid of DDR's contract as much as they saw an opportunity to raise the team's ceiling by trading for Kawhi.
Right? Ujiri was saying to DeRozan "i'm not trading you" before Leonard became an option for them.That's on record.Ujiri said "I loved DeRozan but i had to get Leonard".That's on record as well.
Spurs could have had a solid bigman and a promising player for Leonard.Siakam or OG,whoever would make the money work.
This looks more like Spurs wanting a certified all star no matter what traits said player had and no matter what needs the current roster had.
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