Spurs Draft Discussion: 2019 NBA Draft

[XDT76]

Like Money Ball, there is an inefficiency in the NBA about not picking juniors and seniors in the draft.

This is despite the reality that the NBA game has become some complex that it takes a couple years to figure it out.

So what happens to these one and done players? They never get to learn fast enough and become free agents before they are any good.

The teams wanted to mould their player rather than accomdate someone with more or less a fixed skill set. That's why slot of 6 ft 7 and 6 ft 8 players are drafted.

[exstatic]

Like Money Ball, there is an inefficiency in the NBA about not picking juniors and seniors in the draft.

This is despite the reality that the NBA game has become some complex that it takes a couple years to figure it out.

So what happens to these one and done players? They never get to learn fast enough and become free agents before they are any good.

It’s not that they don’t draft them as seniors, it’s that they DID’T draft them earlier. The longer they stay in school, especially in a big program with visibility, the more chances there are to see their flaws. The ones who ARE selected in the first round, Dame, McCollum, White, are from mid majors, or have a weird path/story. Four year seniors from big programs tend to drop into the second round, like Donkey, Brogdon. Their remaining upside is seen as limited in a league where every GM wants to hit a home run. Your athletic peak is at 27, and Brogdon will be past that by the time he’s a UFA. He was 24 as a rookie.

[RC_Drunkford]

I just hope the Spurs draft an SF that can immediately contribute and not a longterm project like LWIV

[Twisted_Dawg]

I just hope the Spurs draft an SF that can immediately contribute and not a longterm project like LWIV

You better hope they don't draft another big slow goon Pop likes, or waste yet another pick on a Euro draft and trash.

[ceperez]

It’s not that they don’t draft them as seniors, it’s that they DID’T draft them earlier. The longer they stay in school, especially in a big program with visibility, the more chances there are to see their flaws. The ones who ARE selected in the first round, Dame, McCollum, White, are from mid majors, or have a weird path/story. Four year seniors from big programs tend to drop into the second round, like Donkey, Brogdon. Their remaining upside is seen as limited in a league where every GM wants to hit a home run. Your athletic peak is at 27, and Brogdon will be past that by the time he’s a UFA. He was 24 as a rookie.

Just saying that like the Spurs took advantage of looking in Europe for talent, they should take advantage of looking for these overlooked seniors and juniors.

Spurs got White because his path was weird.

Now consider Spurs rarely in the lottery, they've got to be creative (and very lucky).

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs future roster
poetl, eubanks
lma, metu
gay
ddr. forbes, mills
white, murray

yes ddr, white or murry can spend time at sf... still need a good pg+3d player...

[R. DeMurre]

What's the fascination here with Josh Huestis? In 18 games with Austin this year, he has a negative BPM, a negative VORP, and a Win Shares rating of 0. He has a negative DPBM-- in the G League-- and defense is supposed to be his strength. What am I missing?

[exstatic]

I just hope the Spurs draft an SF that can immediately contribute and not a longterm project like LWIV

That’s what’s available in the late teens.

[ZeusWillJudge]

De'Andre Hunter with 21-4-6 against Syracuse tonight.

DePaul is playing Georgetown on Wednesday night. Last time they met, Strus put up 25 points on 10-15 shooting.

What's the fascination here with Josh Huestis? In 18 games with Austin this year, he has a negative BPM, a negative VORP, and a Win Shares rating of 0. He has a negative DPBM--

in the G League--

and defense is supposed to be his strength. What am I missing?

He plays for the Austin Spurs, and his highlight vids look really cool.

[rascal]

With each win the draft pick falls and falls.

[exstatic]

With each win the draft pick falls and falls.

Hasn’t changed much in weeks.

[BackHome]

Looking at the following to be our first picck range best available:
Tyler Herro 6’’6 SG - Sweet 3 pointer
Charles Bassey 6’11 - Quick rim protector
Jontay Porter 6’11 PF - Great 3 pointer but made of China
Matisse Thebully 6’6 SG/SF -Bowen Defense
Goga Bitadze 6’11 C - Decent outside shoot great rim protector.

2nd Pick
Kris Wilkes 6’8 SF - Young with potential

2nd Round
Who cares.

To to be honest I would not mind any of the above guys.

[ZeusWillJudge]

De'Andre Hunter was always a longshot. He's played well enough that most of the mock drafts now have him going in one of the top 5-6 slots. He's off the table for the Spurs.

Early in the season, people talked like Thybulle was undraftable. Now he's showing up on a lot of first round mock boards. I was hoping the Spurs could take him with their second rounder. Now I'm not even sure he'll be around for the Raptor's pick. He's definitely not under the radar anymore.

Max Strus has pretty much fallen out of any discussions, other than my own, even though he's been playing really well and just passed the 1,000 point mark in his two seasons at DePaul. Nobody wanted Fred Van Vleet coming out of college, either. I still think he's going to be a draft bargain.

[Thomas82]

Looking at the following to be our first picck range best available:
Tyler Herro 6’’6 SG - Sweet 3 pointer
Charles Bassey 6’11 - Quick rim protector
Jontay Porter 6’11 PF - Great 3 pointer but made of China
Matisse Thebully 6’6 SG/SF -Bowen Defense
Goga Bitadze 6’11 C - Decent outside shoot great rim protector.

2nd Pick
Kris Wilkes 6’8 SF - Young with potential

2nd Round
Who cares.

To to be honest I would not mind any of the above guys.

I like Charles Bassey the most of all the guys you mentioned. If Bol Bol slides down far enough, I would take a chance on him. I've seen a few mocks that either had us taking him or him getting picked 1 slot ahead of us.

[ceperez]

I like Charles Bassey the most of all the guys you mentioned. If Bol Bol slides down far enough, I would take a chance on him. I've seen a few mocks that either had us taking him or him getting picked 1 slot ahead of us.

Yeah, Bol Bol might be the gamble that Spurs might have to make. It's all a question of another GM will make this gamble before the Spurs.

If Spurs really wanted Bol Bol, they are going to do some weird stuff to hide this intent. Do you recall if Walker, White or even Murray audition specifically for the Spurs?

[MaNu4Tres]

I like Charles Bassey the most of all the guys you mentioned. If Bol Bol slides down far enough, I would take a chance on him. I've seen a few mocks that either had us taking him or him getting picked 1 slot ahead of us.

Bruno Fernando > Bassey

If SA gets a big at 19 or 29, I hope its Bruno.

[duncan2150]

Bruno Fernando > Bassey

If SA gets a big at 19 or 29, I hope its Bruno.

actually i agree with you, bassey has more upside i think. Now we don't know where they will be drated, Fernando is mocked as high as 7-8, bassey somewhere like 10.

i really think Bitadze could be the better big in this draft, more complete than others.

Bol Bol could be nice, he has a really good touch, can block shots ... the downside is his body and if he can play without injuries.

[exstatic]

Tyrese Haliburton. He's a true Frosh from Iowa State, pressed into starting this year. Think of him as a 3&D player (43.3 3G% on 3.3 attempts, 1.7st, 0.9blk) with superb, Diaw-like passing skills. He's been on SI's mock in the late first since January. ISU runs a version of the Beautiful game, starting 4 ball handlers, and he still averages 4apg as a freshman, and has a 17 assist game to his credit. Oh, and he just turned 19.

[rascal]

The Spurs likely will trade out of the first round with the Raptors pick.

[rascal]

Hasn’t changed much in weeks.

With 3 wins in a row the Spurs have fallen out of the lottery. In the lottery with a lucky bounce the Spurs could land a top 10 pick so yes with each win the Spurs move further away from the lottery.

[exstatic]

The Spurs likely will trade out of the first round with the Raptors pick.

I think they would only do that to get picks in 2021, the draft where one and done ends. They really don't need more than 3 picks in this draft.

[BackHome]

Nay the will just draft a foreign guy who they will never bring over. Ie Hanga, Nikola, Scola etc.

[exstatic]

With 3 wins in a row the Spurs have fallen out of the lottery. In the lottery with a lucky bounce the Spurs could land a top 10 pick so yes with each win the Spurs move further away from the lottery.

They haven't been in lotto territory for more than a day since January.

[rascal]

They haven't been in lotto territory for more than a day since January.

But they were getting very close after the long road trip. It was looking promising.

[Twisted_Dawg]

The Spurs likely will trade out of the first round with the Raptors pick.

I think they would only do that to get picks in 2021, the draft where one and done ends. They really don't need more than 3 picks in this draft.

Nay the will just draft a foreign guy who they will never bring over. Ie Hanga, Nikola, Scola etc.