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    where do you heteros rate the Loughlins?

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    I guess I’m not fully understanding what there is to “debate” about this story? It’s very clearly another example of rich white folk getting away with only this time they got caught and they will all receive a light slap on the wrist because this country is ridiculous.

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    where do you heteros rate the Loughlins?

    Mom and tan daughter are incredible.

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    where do you heteros rate the Loughlins?
    Are you implying that you're gay

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    The Yale Dad Who Set Off the College-Admissions Scandal
    The original tipster who led federal authorities to the biggest college-admissions scam they’ve ever prosecuted was Morrie Tobin, a Los Angeles resident who was being investigated in a securities fraud case, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

    Mr. Tobin was being questioned in an alleged pump-and-dump investment scheme—in which people conspire to inflate the price of a stock so they can sell it at a profit—when he offered a tip to federal authorities in an effort to obtain leniency, according to people familiar with the matter. :

    He told investigators that the head women’s soccer coach at Yale University had sought a bribe in return for getting his daughter into the Ivy League school, a person familiar with the investigation said.

    That tip led investigators to unravel a wide-ranging scheme in which dozens of wealthy parents paid a college consultant to facilitate cheating on entrance exams and falsifying athletic profiles. It also involved bribing coaches at schools including the University of Southern California, Georgetown University and Stanford University to take their kids on as recruited athletes, a near guaranteed way of being accepted.

    Mr. Tobin wasn’t charged in relation to the college admissions scheme. He is awaiting sentencing in the securities fraud case in which he signed a plea agreement in November.

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    Lol

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    Bribery/fraud aside, a college admissions system that's driven by tests rich families can drop thousands of dollars to prepare for is another example of how this country is anything but a meritocracy.

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    where do you heteros rate the Loughlins?
    I rate them a 2

    2 stupid to get into usc

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    Mom and tan daughter are incredible.
    indeed

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    Bribery/fraud aside, a college admissions system that's driven by tests rich families can drop thousands of dollars to prepare for is another example of how this country is anything but a meritocracy.
    I agree, also class rank >>> test scores, because it measures not only ap ude but also academic/work durability, e.g. what one can do over the course of 4 long years, not a one-day (possibly rigged) standardized test.

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    I agree, also class rank >>> test scores, because it measures not only ap ude but also academic/work durability, e.g. what one can do over the course of 4 long years, not a one-day (possibly rigged) standardized test.
    Meh, class rank is bull when the compe ion varies massively school by school.

    I'd say grades coupled with curriculum difficulty (i.e. did you take AP calculus or just the minimum required amount of math) are the best way to judge.

    They could also make standardized tests that aren't so easy to prepare for with tutors/classes. The GMAT for example is a test people pay a load of money to prepare for but I don't think the prep does much, it's pretty good at testing general intelligence vs. who did the most prep.

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    Meh, class rank is bull when the compe ion varies massively school by school.

    I'd say grades coupled with curriculum difficulty (i.e. did you take AP calculus or just the minimum required amount of math) are the best way to judge.

    They could also make standardized tests that aren't so easy to prepare for with tutors/classes. The GMAT for example is a test people pay a load of money to prepare for but I don't think the prep does much, it's pretty good at testing general intelligence vs. who did the most prep.
    You don't even need to pay a load; the SAT is so easy to study for. I bought a $10 study guide with practice tests and did one every Saturday and every Sunday. It brought my SAT up from 20th percentile the first time I took it to 3rd percentile the second time maybe 3-4 months later.

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    Meh, class rank is bull when the compe ion varies massively school by school.

    I
    'd say grades coupled with curriculum difficulty (i.e. did you take AP calculus or just the minimum required amount of math) are the best way to judge.

    They could also make standardized tests that aren't so easy to prepare for with tutors/classes. The GMAT for example is a test people pay a load of money to prepare for but I don't think the prep does much, it's pretty good at testing general intelligence vs. who did the most prep.
    yep, great point about class rank. I was ranked top 5 in my class, but my class was only 42 people . On top of that I had a bunch of ing Koriwhats in my class tbh, at least they graduated though I suppose.

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    You don't even need to pay a load; the SAT is so easy to study for. I bought a $10 study guide with practice tests and did one every Saturday and every Sunday. It brought my SAT up from 20th percentile the first time I took it to 3rd percentile the second time maybe 3-4 months later.
    The dumb kids require more prep than that (i.e., the blonde in this scandal who made a video about how she just wants to party on gameday). That type is going to need to drop a few thousand to get into the top 20%

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    You don't even need to pay a load; the SAT is so easy to study for. I bought a $10 study guide with practice tests and did one every Saturday and every Sunday. It brought my SAT up from 20th percentile the first time I took it to 3rd percentile the second time maybe 3-4 months later.
    fore sure.
    To make a point, when I walked in to take mine, I paused in front of the class, stared at everyone for a second, then bit off my pencil erasers and spit them at the proctor.

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    yep, great point about class rank. I was ranked top 5 in my class, but my class was only 42 people . On top of that I had a bunch of ing Koriwhats in my class tbh, at least they graduated though I suppose.
    I worked with someone from Mississippi who got hired largely because he went to Vanderbilt, and he was legitimately one of the 3 dumbest people I've ever met, almost needed sub les when he talked because of how poorly he enunciated words. When someone jokingly asked him how he got into Vanderbilt (naturally, he didn't realize why people were so curious), he said because of some kind of some criteria where people who graduate top 3% of their class are viewed really favorably, and it all made sense. He went to some backwater school in Hattiesburg MS where the average senior reads at a 6th grade level

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    The dumb kids require more prep than that (i.e., the blonde in this scandal who made a video about how she just wants to party on gameday). That type is going to need to drop a few thousand to get into the top 20%
    Still it's amazing how easy that test is to crack. I wasn't any smarter 3-4 months later. I just knew the format of the test, how much geometry vs algebra vs arithmetic, how much close reading vs vocabulary, and so on. What a garbage test.

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    spit the erasers out I tell ya

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    damn...I'm bored as

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    anyone ever hear "as big as an albatross?"

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    Probably going to go home and download Assault Android Cactus.

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    Meh, class rank is bull when the compe ion varies massively school by school.

    I'd say grades coupled with curriculum difficulty (i.e. did you take AP calculus or just the minimum required amount of math) are the best way to judge.

    They could also make standardized tests that aren't so easy to prepare for with tutors/classes. The GMAT for example is a test people pay a load of money to prepare for but I don't think the prep does much, it's pretty good at testing general intelligence vs. who did the most prep.
    Standardized tests are in general a stupid and nearsighted way to judge students and intellectuals. People have good days and bad days, alert days and sick days, that is the nature of humanity... can't pin some kid's future on the fate of one single day with so much variance involved.

    Example: I had to miss a 2nd attempt at an ACT test on Saturday, February 9th, 2013 because I came down with a bad cold on Friday night. My previous ACT score was 29 and my illness cost me an opportunity to achieve a score of 30+. I had it scheduled from months in advance (only way to avoid being waitlisted) and my grandmother was pretty upset because it wasted her $50.

    As far as your second sentence, you're accurate, but I'm not sure if you know but most schools in the USA already weight grades/GPA (which also determine class rank) based on regular classes vs. Pre-AP/Honors vs. AP/Dual Credit. Regular being worth the actual grade value, Pre-AP/Honors being worth your grade +5 and AP/Dual Credit +10. At least that's how it worked at my school. So the students who loaded up on AP/DC classes got rewarded with a significantly higher maximum grade average than those who took regulars.

    Compe ion does vary from school to school, but the argument there is that you can't just reward rich, mostly Asian/White schools in California and Massachusetts, Connecticut etc. for having better schools and GPAs and offering more AP programs and the like as opposed to, say, the majority-black and majority-Hispanic schools. Class rank is an excellent determining factor because it gives everyone a chance to do their possible best given their cir stances, be it rich or poor, Asian/White or Black/Hispanic.

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    where do you heteros rate the Loughlins?
    I'd have to see their elbows.

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    Standardized tests are in general a stupid and nearsighted way to judge students and intellectuals. People have good days and bad days, alert days and sick days, that is the nature of humanity... can't pin some kid's future on the fate of one single day with so much variance involved.

    Example: I had to miss a 2nd attempt at an ACT test on Saturday, February 9th, 2013 because I came down with a bad cold on Friday night. My previous ACT score was 29 and my illness cost me an opportunity to achieve a score of 30+. I had it scheduled from months in advance (only way to avoid being waitlisted) and my grandmother was pretty upset because it wasted her $50.

    As far as your second sentence, you're accurate, but I'm not sure if you know but most schools in the USA already weight grades/GPA (which also determine class rank) based on regular classes vs. Pre-AP/Honors vs. AP/Dual Credit. Regular being worth the actual grade value, Pre-AP/Honors being worth your grade +5 and AP/Dual Credit +10. At least that's how it worked at my school. So the students who loaded up on AP/DC classes got rewarded with a significantly higher maximum grade average than those who took regulars.

    Compe ion does vary from school to school, but the argument there is that you can't just reward rich, mostly Asian/White schools in California and Massachusetts, Connecticut etc. for having better schools and GPAs and offering more AP programs and the like as opposed to, say, the majority-black and majority-Hispanic schools. Class rank is an excellent determining factor because it gives everyone a chance to do their possible best given their cir stances, be it rich or poor, Asian/White or Black/Hispanic.
    You're on your way to becoming just a younger version of Avante. Just FYI.

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    Of course

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