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    Everyone talking about shipping Forbes ... that is just foolish. He's an asset and is getting better and will continue to. He isn't bball dumb. He's healthy. He ain't gonna 'take his talents elsewhere.' He is the Spurs' to keep. I don't see them trading a home grown undrafted overachiever, although some may say that is an impetus to trade. Mills isn't going anywhere like it or not. Why not Lonnie. Or Bertans even.

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    I don’t know.

    The narrative around this draft is very similar to the Leonard/Klay draft (It’s weak, etc.) To my mind it’s the type of draft where GMs actually earn their money by doing their homework. Outside of whoever gets Zion, there is a lot of room for the pertetually crappy front offices to wiff at the top of the draft.

    I don’t rule out a trade in this draft if there is a player the Spurs like that’s slipped past 9 but won’t last past 14.
    I like this idea. The Spurs have the ammo to trade up.

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    The Spurs need to keep their four guards of the future for as long as they can. They will be able to find their forwards as DDR and LMA age out. Mills and Beli will no longer be on the team within 2 years and could see movement at the trade deadline of next year, should all 4 future guards flourish.

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    Your years are off;
    Forbes is under contract until after next season, not 20-21.
    Mill's expires in 20-21. DeRozan has an out after next season and will likely opt out and either re-sign or sign elsewhere to a long term deal.

    Alrdridge and Bertans, just like Forbes and DDR will be free agents in the summer of 2020, not 2021, plus Murray who will be an RFA. That is going to be a pivotal off season for sure.

    I think Mills will probably not be retained, DeRozan almost certainly will but it will be a matter of years.

    3 years for around what he opted out of ($27) is what I fear PATFO may offer but at least he will only be 32 by the end of the deal.

    If the Spurs hold onto Forbes, it is interesting to see how that plays out. There is a chance that he continues to start and play around 20 mpg with White being the backup 2 and playing a lot off the bench but that means both Beli and Walker would be on the outside of the rotation.

    He could also not play a lot and have his value suppressed in FA.
    Yes, I had some years wrong.
    Looking at the unrestricted free agents available in 2020 Forbes could be a relatively expensive signing, particular if he stays on the same improvement trajectory next year.

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    Your years are off;
    Forbes is under contract until after next season, not 20-21.
    Mill's expires in 20-21. DeRozan has an out after next season and will likely opt out and either re-sign or sign elsewhere to a long term deal.

    Alrdridge and Bertans, just like Forbes and DDR will be free agents in the summer of 2020, not 2021, plus Murray who will be an RFA. That is going to be a pivotal off season for sure.

    I think Mills will probably not be retained, DeRozan almost certainly will but it will be a matter of years.

    3 years for around what he opted out of ($27) is what I fear PATFO may offer but at least he will only be 32 by the end of the deal.

    If the Spurs hold onto Forbes, it is interesting to see how that plays out. There is a chance that he continues to start and play around 20 mpg with White being the backup 2 and playing a lot off the bench but that means both Beli and Walker would be on the outside of the rotation.

    He could also not play a lot and have his value suppressed in FA.
    I desperately hope your fears are false. That would be a massive mistake.

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    I desperately hope your fears are false. That would be a massive mistake.
    Me too tbh. I'm ok with them re-signing him, just not for that price 3 years, $75-80 million is a lot for him. He wouldn't opt out unless he and his agent were sure they could get comparable money on a longer deal. A 3 year deal would still be better than a 4 year deal though.

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    Admittedly, I haven't done a lot of reading on the players in this year's draft, however there are a few guys i really like.

    I really like Chris Wilkes from UCLA, he is a 6'8 guy with good athleticism and lateral quickness, he has shown the ability to play good defense. I'm hoping he is available at the 29th pick. He reminds me of Bruce Bowen.

    With the 19th pick I like Charles Bassey, he had a legit NBA body that can add some good muscle. He is a strong rim defender and a good rebounder.

    No idea what the Spurs will do with their last pick, probably another Manu Ginoboli

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    Would like the Spurs to use 1 pick to get a high ceiling guy (Sekou Doumbouya, KZ Okpola, the Kentucky freshmen, or Walker-Alexander.
    Then use other pick to get a guy that could contribute next year, although that is tough with Pop (Admiral Schofield, Grant Williams, Brandon Clarke, Ty Jerome, Bruno Fernando)

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    Admittedly, I haven't done a lot of reading on the players in this year's draft, however there are a few guys i really like.

    I really like Chris Wilkes from UCLA, he is a 6'8 guy with good athleticism and lateral quickness, he has shown the ability to play good defense. I'm hoping he is available at the 29th pick. He reminds me of Bruce Bowen.

    With the 19th pick I like Charles Bassey, he had a legit NBA body that can add some good muscle. He is a strong rim defender and a good rebounder.

    No idea what the Spurs will do with their last pick, probably another Manu Ginoboli
    Reminds me of Danny Green - as he doesn't have good handles and is inconsistent in his feet which causes him to be inconsistent on his 3pt shot. If Chip and other coaches feel he can improve those two areas definitely has the defensive tools to be a success 3 & D SF

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    Spurs are not finding another Manu with a late 2nd round pick. The days of euro players not being scouted are long over.

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    I like this idea. The Spurs have the ammo to trade up.
    They won't. Spurs don't like to trade.

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    Any good wings that'll fall to 19?

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    Thybulle would be a great pickup.
    Ain’t happening

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    IMO Mills more than gives up on the constantly bad defensive end what he inconsistently brings on the offensive end. There are a number of players teams could pick up in FA or trades that would be better and cost less than A poor and fading Mills.
    Wouldnt bring a 1/3 of what he does in the locker room. You may under estimate that, but it’s tangible.

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    They won't. Spurs don't like to trade.
    A complete lie. How do you think they acquired Kawhi Leonard?

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    Admittedly, I haven't done a lot of reading on the players in this year's draft, however there are a few guys i really like.

    I really like Chris Wilkes from UCLA, he is a 6'8 guy with good athleticism and lateral quickness, he has shown the ability to play good defense. I'm hoping he is available at the 29th pick. He reminds me of Bruce Bowen.

    With the 19th pick I like Charles Bassey, he had a legit NBA body that can add some good muscle. He is a strong rim defender and a good rebounder.

    No idea what the Spurs will do with their last pick, probably another Manu Ginoboli
    not bad tbh

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    WTF? Garbage?


    2018: Huerter (before Holiday, Shamet, Kurucs...)
    2017: John Collins (before Allen, Kuzma, Hart, M.Morris...)
    2016: Malik Beasley (before LaVert, Siakam...)
    2015: Jerian Grant (before Harrell, Osman, Looney...)
    2014: Gary Harris (before Bogdanovic, Dinwiddle...)

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    Oh, c'mon, let's be at least a little bit honest, and fair. Whatever else he may struggle with, that sucker can shoot. Forbes absolutely has NBA shooting talent. People, including me, criticize him for other things, especially defense, but it needs to be admitted Forbes does have some NBA talent.
    He has enough talent that teams closeout to him and he gets several shots at the rim, which he makes at high rate.

    Some fans don't really understand basketball. Too much videogame time.

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    A complete lie. How do you think they acquired Kawhi Leonard?
    Actually, it’s true. That was eight years ago. When was the last time they traded up before that. He didn’t say they never traded, he said they don’t like to, and I’d have to agree.

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    So T-Park is posting again??

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    DJ, D-White, Lonnie, Poodle, 19th, 29th, no albatroses, Ime or Messina ready to take the torch, Spurs should be compe ive for a while still...
    Messina taking the torch would be a disaster

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    A complete lie. How do you think they acquired Kawhi Leonard?
    Been many years since a significant trade. KL forced the Toronto trade and they dragged their feet making a trade with KL.

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    Actually, it’s true. That was eight years ago. When was the last time they traded up before that. He didn’t say they never traded, he said they don’t like to, and I’d have to agree.
    It’s unequivocally false that they don’t like to. They run into the problem of a lot of teams don’t want to trade them up.

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    Been many years since a significant trade. KL forced the Toronto trade and they dragged their feet making a trade with KL.
    Yeah and they won that trade 100%. Sit the down.

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    Messina taking the torch would be a disaster
    If Pop retired this offseason, which he isn’t, the person to take over is Becky Hammond. She’s next in line, unless they can convince a certain college coach to leave his program, if he couldn’t be, Hammond is the next coach.

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