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    I know you speak in jest, but America was also founded on slavery, feminine disenfranchisement and a lot of other customs of the day. The world has evolved dramatically since.
    'what the is wrong with you ElNono, you came here from another country and this is what you think? How could you for get the genocide?

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    Lol "wrong team".
    Democratic leadership has strengthened their ties to groups like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (both organizations sponsor terror groups abroad, and dare I say on our home soil). It is an unholy alliance.

    So YES, you nitwitted stubborn . Siding with Sharia supremacists by failing to condemn the actions of radical Islam (here or abroad) is demonstrably a sign that your precious party has aligned itself with the "wrong team". Adherents of Radical Islam (numbering in the tens of millions worldwide) have declared that this nation needs to be destroyed. The United States of America is their sworn enemy. But many of you here are unwilling to accept it, and twiddle your thumbs with a naïve foolishness that defies comprehension.

    While the cognitive dissonance that forces you all to reconcile their tyrannical ideologies against the backdrop of our GOD-given freedoms is rather comical to watch - such ignorance is also dangerous. It shows the absurdity of what you have allowed yourselves to defend - when in reality their ideology is indefensible. Anyone here supporting CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood, or supporting the 'legality' of Sharia Law taking any root on U.S. soil (over the jurisprudence of the U.S. Cons ution) has utterly lost their mind.

    Unfortunately, it's clear to me that you all simply don't care about the perils of Radical Islam. Your leaders can't even condemn them. In fact your leaders allowed them unfettered access to our intelligence files during the previous administration. Your leaders even negotiated the transfer of a portion of our uranium reserves to the Iranian Regime (ensuring Russia would also get their own uranium bounty via Iran - Yay Clinton! ). I still remember stiff discussion with some of you here who vehemently denied that the Iranian Regime had zero-ties to Radical Islam. Such a bewildering blindness on you all's part is either ignorant or deliberate. But Yes, Democrats have negotiated directly with Radical Islamic groups making concessions that are completely stupefying.

    You can yell from the top of your lungs, you can hate me all you want, you can choose to turn the other way - but denying that your leaders have strengthened their ties to such groups is nothing more than denial - a proverbial ostrich burying its head in the ground. At this point you're only lying to yourselves for what exactly? To denounce Christianity. To drum the party line? What is the unifying arc here? We already know you all personally vilify Christians. boutons is deranged and obsessed with spouting the evils of Christians - and something in his mind fails to fill an immense void unless he comments on such matters weekly. Blake, Chump, and El Nono are self-ascribed athiests who also vilify anything pertaining to Jesus Christ or Christianity.

    Just keep lying to yourselves.

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    Democratic leadership has strengthened their ties to groups like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (both organizations sponsor terror groups abroad, and dare I say on our home soil). It is an unholy alliance.

    So YES, you nitwitted stubborn . Siding with Sharia supremacists by failing to condemn the actions of radical Islam (here or abroad) is demonstrably a sign that your precious party has aligned itself with the "wrong team". Adherents of Radical Islam (numbering in the tens of millions worldwide) have declared that this nation needs to be destroyed. The United States of America is their sworn enemy. But many of you here are unwilling to accept it, and twiddle your thumbs with a naïve foolishness that defies comprehension.

    While the cognitive dissonance that forces you all to reconcile their tyrannical ideologies against the backdrop of our GOD-given freedoms is rather comical to watch - such ignorance is also dangerous. It shows the absurdity of what you have allowed yourselves to defend - when in reality their ideology is indefensible. Anyone here supporting CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood, or supporting the 'legality' of Sharia Law taking any root on U.S. soil (over the jurisprudence of the U.S. Cons ution) has utterly lost their mind.

    Unfortunately, it's clear to me that you all simply don't care about the perils of Radical Islam. Your leaders can't even condemn them. In fact your leaders allowed them unfettered access to our intelligence files during the previous administration. Your leaders even negotiated the transfer of a portion of our uranium reserves to the Iranian Regime (ensuring Russia would also get their own uranium bounty via Iran - Yay Clinton! ). I still remember stiff discussion with some of you here who vehemently denied that the Iranian Regime had zero-ties to Radical Islam. Such a bewildering blindness on you all's part is either ignorant or deliberate. But Yes, Democrats have negotiated directly with Radical Islamic groups making concessions that are completely stupefying.

    You can yell from the top of your lungs, you can hate me all you want, you can choose to turn the other way - but denying that your leaders have strengthened their ties to such groups is nothing more than denial - a proverbial ostrich burying its head in the ground. At this point you're only lying to yourselves for what exactly? To denounce Christianity. To drum the party line? What is the unifying arc here? We already know you all personally vilify Christians. boutons is deranged and obsessed with spouting the evils of Christians - and something in his mind fails to fill an immense void unless he comments on such matters weekly. Blake, Chump, and El Nono are self-ascribed athiests who also vilify anything pertaining to Jesus Christ or Christianity.

    Just keep lying to yourselves.
    I never said I was an atheist.

    Why do you lie?

    Also, explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.

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    Christian (both Protestant and Catholic) Sharia, already in practice widely legislatively and judicially, will kill lots of women and babies ( ed in TX after free clinics closed), and cause lots of unwanted pregnancies.

    Muslim Sharia?

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    Christian (both Protestant and Catholic) Sharia, already in practice widely legislatively and judicially, will kill lots of women and babies ( ed in TX after free clinics closed), and cause lots of unwanted pregnancies.

    Muslim Sharia?

    God damn, you're a re ed bigot.

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    I never said I was an atheist.

    Why do you lie?

    Also, explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.
    Yes you did several years ago. Your shift to make my assertion the matter of your reproach is a subtle attempt to subvert the claim itself.

    But ok, get it out in the open. Here and now. Do you believe in GOD or gods? And how does your belief in a deity/deities affect your everyday life?

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    Yes you did several years ago. Your shift to make my assertion the matter of your reproach is a subtle attempt to subvert the claim itself.

    But ok, get it out in the open. Here and now. Do you believe in GOD or gods? And how does your belief in a deity/deities affect your everyday life?
    Agnostic. Organized religions of all kinds get stupid and repressive one way or another.



    Now explain this whole "transfer of uranium" business. You seem to be completely misinformed.

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    2015 Iran Deal.

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    No, you have to EXPLAIN this whole transfer of uranium thing RE: Iran and Russia.

    You don't get away with just saying "det deal."

    I look forward to some rehashed Federalist article or something similar.
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    No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna July of 2015. This was the same do ent that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

    You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

    Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

    Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.

    Edit: July not September (checked my booking logs)
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    No... I held the actual copy signed by our own State Department while I was in Vienna September of 2015. This was the same do ent that had to be vetted by the European Atomic Energy Community before it could be approved.

    You’ve been lied to by mainstream media. That deal had all manner of irresponsible concessions.

    Including the transfer of Uranium between the three nations I mentioned above.

    Good thing our current POTUS kicked that deal to the curb much to the chagrin of our former administration.
    saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

    Explain the transfer.

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    saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

    Explain the transfer.
    "I can see Russia from my house"

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    saying you held it in your hand is not explaining it.

    Explain the transfer.
    Does your stubbornness know no end?

    The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

    The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

    Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

    In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

    But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.

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    Does your stubbornness know no end?

    The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

    The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

    Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

    In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

    But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.
    you're right. here's the full text

    https://www.do entcloud.org/do e...deal-text.html

    where's the part where the US provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash? page and line numbers

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    The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.
    "provided"

    The US unfroze Iranian assets.

    Just lying about that invalidates anything you might ever say about anything. But sure, I'll bite on the rest -- if Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

    Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).
    So Russia, which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

    OK.

    Still trying to see the evil part.

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    It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank.

    Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas.

    Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation."

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/

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    Iran's uranium stockpile was reduced by 98% to 300kg (660lbs),

    a figure that must not be exceeded until 2031.

    It must also keep the stockpile's level of enrichment at 3.67%.

    By January 2016, Iran had drastically reduced the number of centrifuges installed at Natanz and Fordo,

    and shipped tonnes of low-enriched uranium to Russia.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655



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    "provided"

    The US unfroze Iranian assets.

    Just lying about that invalidates anything you might ever say about anything. But sure, I'll bite on the rest -- if Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

    So Russia, which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

    OK.

    Still trying to see the evil part.
    How disingenuous can the entire MSM machine and your own party leaders be..? How stupid do they think Americans as a whole are?

    Only several weeks ago we were all being led to believe that Putin's Russia is uber dangerous and cannot be trusted, because they meddled in our Election, because they colluded with Trump, etc... They are a wholly EVIL state. That Mueller's Report would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how these two evil men orchestrated theft of power.

    YET in 2015 Biden, Obama and Hillary drafted a deal that physically transferred Iran's uranium to Putin's Russia. "No. no. Russia wasn't evil" they said - that the past was in the past. And they were actually praised for building bridges with Russia. Praised for being diplomatic and being everything that 'war mongering Regan' wasn't.

    THEN the 2016 Election happened and the MSM media now wanted everyone to think that Russia was 'evil'. Everyone forgot that the outgoing administration had given Russia uranium. pffft...

    The convenience of when to call Russia evil and when not to is pretty downright dishonest on your part. I don't care if the Russians have more warheads than we do. Giving them the fuel to build more is irresponsible and treasonous. Of course none of you shills in here will admit it.

    Like seriously you couldn't make this stuff up even if you wanted to... but left-leaning Americans are so manipulated by the media that they don't even know it.

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    How disingenuous can the entire MSM machine and your own party leaders be..? How stupid do they think Americans as a whole are?

    Only several weeks ago we were all being led to believe that Putin's Russia is uber dangerous and cannot be trusted, because they meddled in our Election, because they colluded with Trump, etc... They are a wholly EVIL state. That Mueller's Report would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how these two evil men orchestrated theft of power.

    YET in 2015 Biden, Obama and Hillary drafted a deal that physically transferred Iran's uranium to Putin's Russia. "No. no. Russia wasn't evil" they said - that the past was in the past. And they were actually praised for building bridges with Russia. Praised for being diplomatic and being everything that 'war mongering Regan' wasn't.

    THEN the 2016 Election happened and the MSM media now wanted everyone to think that Russia was 'evil'. Everyone forgot that the outgoing administration had given Russia uranium. pffft...

    The convenience of when to call Russia evil and when not to is pretty downright dishonest on your part. I don't care if the Russians have more warheads than we do. Giving them the fuel to build more is irresponsible and treasonous. Of course none of you shills in here will admit it.

    Like seriously you couldn't make this stuff up even if you wanted to... but left-leaning Americans are so manipulated by the media that they don't even know it.


    Didn't see your answers though.

    Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

    So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

    Where did the uranium come from in the first place?

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    Deflection alert. Chump deflects in 3... 2... 1...



    Didn't see your answers though.

    Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

    So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

    Where did the uranium come from in the first place?
    Let me summarize.

    Is Russia Evil only when it suits your needs?

    Scenario 1) Vladimir Putin's Russia is not evil and can be trusted to be given additional uranium. Democrats everywhere applaud.

    Scenario 2) Vladimir Putin's Russia is evil and orchestrated the loss of Hillary Clinton's 2016 Presidential bid. Democrats everywhere gnash their teeth.

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    Deflection alert. Chump deflects in 3... 2... 1...



    Let me summarize.

    Is Russia Evil only when it suits your needs?

    Scenario 1) Vladimir Putin's Russia is not evil and can be trusted to be given additional uranium. Democrats everywhere applaud.

    Scenario 2) Vladimir Putin's Russia is evil and orchestrated the loss of Hillary Clinton's 2016 Presidential bid. Democrats everywhere gnash their teeth.
    this is your deflection attempt.

    Russia is a member of the UN security council and needed for international agreements like this. It can already destroy us with the nuclear material it has had for half a century.

    Period.

    I will ask for a third time. Please answer this time.

    Iran gave up nine tons of uranium, how much did the US give them?

    So Russia, a signatory in the agreement which already has a nuclear arsenal that can destroy us many times over, gets uranium?

    Where did the uranium come from in the first place?

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    I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

    The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

    SIMPLE AS THAT.

    You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Giving them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.
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    I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

    The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

    SIMPLE AS THAT.

    You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Given them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.
    your claim was that the US transferred uranium to iran. you've now turned this into SO IS RUSSIA EVIL OR ONT. goalpost shifted.

    i dont think russia is our friend. i also dont think they're going to nuke anybody anytime soon

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    Does your stubbornness know no end?

    The specifics of that deal aren't even hard to find.

    The U.S. provided Iran with uranium and 1.7 billion dollars in cash.

    Iran was then required to transfer "all but 300 kilograms of their almost nine ton uranium stockpile" over to Russia (in ten separate batches).

    In fact, the Iranians have officially requested that their uranium be returned from Russia since Trump backed out of the deal in May of 2018.

    But yeah... spin it to your favor. One that glosses over the grotesque irresponsibility of any deal that would lead to Putin's Russia obtaining MORE uranium. You're actually going to reply in a manner that attempts to defend such a treasonous strategy. That's what all you liberal shills do here. You cannot contemplate a scenario where you all admit that you all have been manipulated en masse. Or worse yet, that you all are being led to believe only what those puppet-masters want you to believe.
    Blake is too cynical to learn anything much like 21 and Pavlov. His posts are complete rubbish; you're better off just ignoring his mumbling and grumbling.

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    I'm not deflecting I'm just pointing out the silliness with which the political narrative can be manipulated to suit the needs of Democrats.

    The 2015 Iran Deal was irresponsible and treasonous.

    SIMPLE AS THAT.

    You want to let Obama off the hook for empowering Putin's Russia FURTHER. I don't care if they theoretically owned 99% of all uranium on earth. Given them more IS the crux of the problem. Especially if they are evil as MSM has suggested non-stop for the last three years.
    You didn't answer any of the questions.

    What's your problem?

    You held the agreement in your hands.

    Just answer the questions.

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