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I would also point out that Democratic Party leaders KNOW that undo ented immigrants are being counted. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about potential "loss of representation".
The old voter suppression by Republicans...
I would also point out that Democratic Party leaders KNOW that undo ented immigrants are being counted. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about potential "loss of representation".
no, they're saying it's going to lower the response rate of people who arent in legal jeopardy
Based on an irrational fear? You either are a citizen or you aren't.
If you aren't a Citizen then don't take the survey, don't be counted. I would think that anonymity is the best self-preservation tactic for remaining in the shadows.
Allowing yourself to be counted in the census (counted as a citizen), however, is as bad as entering the country illicitly.
But Democrats know that the Census-based redistricting process can boost their Congressional representation if ALL people are counted (including those who legally shouldn't have a voice in our elections). Which parts of the country have the highest density of undo ented immigrants? Those which have lax deportation enforcement - which coincidently happen to also be Democratic controlled districts.
An increase in population between two censuses means that a Congressional district can potentially be split into two and so now instead of being assigned one seat in congress that area now receives two. They're playing the system and they know it.
if so they why are you worried that illegals are rampantly tilting the scales through the census?
Let's get rid of gerrymandering. Fixed.
I don't know if you are being disingenuously naïve or simply playing coy. Because undo ented immigrants are being encouraged to participate, encouraged to be counted.
so they prefer anonymity for self preservation but are going out and responding to the census in droves
Eric Holder is on a personal crusade to let "EVERYONE" know that their voice matters "whether you are an undo ented immigrant or not".
His tweets masquerade a purposeful agenda under the guise of civic equality. The process undermines our nation's sovereignty. Undo ented immigrants are being given a voice in our elections process even if they don't ever cast a ballot directly.
where are you getting those Holder quotes from?
Atleast one patent a legal USA citizen when baby is born on USA citizen should be able to vote
You completely misread that.
I'm suggesting that anonymity should be their play. Instead they are being led to be defiant and actually participate in the census process - totally the opposite of anonymity.
He sucked him off last night
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Are you this stupid?
I'm arguing against the practice that gives undo ented immigrants an indirect voice in our elections. NOT for it. SMDH.
LOL his tweets are full of such 'Freudian slip' nuggets.
gotcha.
the argument is that you're going to drive down participation from otherwise legal participants because they may have family of questionable status that they dont want looked into. so they avoid answering any questions about it. you might argue the rationale is then solid... effectively "smoking out" illegal immigrants. but then you're still faced with the consequence of not having an accurate representation count. the studies have shown that the decrease in valid census responses would outweigh whatever extent of census fraud you believe such measure would prevent.
if you're really worried about representation issues... a more effective means would be to revisit the way senate seats are distributed and the electoral college.
oh so you made them up
i mean you're talking to ducks...
The census counts people, not citizens.
Slaves and women counted when they couldn't vote either.
LOL!
Anytime one does not agree with a Liberal, that one is stupid and is a racist. Y'all need to get a new shtick. This one is getting old.
Sleight-of-hand deflection noted.
My point stands, only Citizens should vote. Only Citizens should be counted towards the appropriation of Congressional seats.
Or do you want non-Citizens to also be counted in the tally?
Each Congressional seat represents roughly 600,000 - 700,000 cons uents (for a total of 435 Congress members). If there are roughly 11 - 22 million undo ented immigrants in this country (depending on who's counting https://phys.org/news/2018-09-undocu...y-current.html); you do the math.
So while undo ented immigrants may not be directly casting votes, Democratically controlled areas of the nation gain as much as 33 seats simply by accounting for a larger head-count in their districts.
How many bills have passed or been stalled by a lesser margin?
yes if 100% of them respond to the census and 100% of them live in democrat controlled districts.
Then change the Cons ution and never call yourself an originalist ever again.
Apparently you don't know how the Census process works.
The Census isn't a one-to-one tally. They are forced to extrapolate based on statistical algorithms that vary by zone and the use of a population density matrix which may or may not be representative for a particular area (the methods aren't nearly as exact as we would want them to be or as exact as the country needs them to be).
Also way to dodge the crux of the argument; should non-Citizens be counted for Congressional representation, yes or no?
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