***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[LkrFan]

The only difference in the contracts was that LA literally paid him up front every year, a loophole that's now been closed. That er was the only player that got paid during the '99 lockout.

[FrankC]

Again you are missing the point. Kawhi isn’t going through teams that DeRozan didnt have to face in terms of quality. Sorry if that fact offends you.

You keep going back and forth between the quality of the team, and the quality of PG or Wade. The fact is that the Pacers and Heat that the Raptors matched up against in those seasons were not as good as this Philly team that was just eliminated. You're not only overrating those teams, you're also overrating Demar's own weight or influence. Those teams were beaten by big games from Lowry, Valanciunas, Powell, Biyombo... So not only was this Philly team better than any of those earlier opponents, it was very much a matter of Kawhi carrying the greatest load and having the single biggest influence on the outcome as opposed to having others carry the heavy load for him while his performance went in the tank. It's laughable that you're wasting so many posts arguing this.

That has nothing to do with what I said though. You are literally seeing people in Twitter saying that Kawhi did what DeRozan never could; lead TOR to the ECF

Well, the bare truth is that Demar never did lead the Raptors to the ECF. He was always dead weight that was carried through the playoffs by other guys taking turns being heroes. Perhaps if Demar didn't turn into a pumpkin every post season then they would have made the ECF more than once, or maybe even had a puncher's chance in the one they did make, but no, he had to turn into apractice pylon for Lebron and the Cavs. In that sense, the statement is correct. Kawhi did lead, while Demar did not.

I firmly think that this season's Raptors team would have beaten the Cavs the previous two seasons. Maybe not the earlier ECF matchup in 16 where it was the Raptors first time there and was a le season for CLE, but these past two seasons would not have been sweeps and they likely would have resulted in LBJ not making the Finals again.

[Mikeanaro]

So I’m a casual because I like basketball outside of my own team? Yeah they they got swept and demar was mocked for it even here and by skip bayless who now did a complete 180 on demar after he had a spurs jersey on. I’m not going to be cultist like that

You are a casual, you dont care about Spurs only about whats hip today, so far they are getting to the ty ECF because of a fluke shot and you are all excited.

[dbreiden83080]

No, I wanted that, when we had a real number one, LA wouldn't have pouted for getting less touches than him. I want to know that, if we ever get another real number one, LA would be cool with becoming a second option without asking out.

Well he is 33 so the by the time that happens he will be on the way out anyway. For now he needs to be a 1 or 1A for the Spurs. And he did not leave after losing in the WCF. He stayed and it was Number 2 that set the franchise back maybe 5 years.

[Mikeanaro]

If anything I find that the "casuals" as far as bball knowledge are often the fans that only watch their team and don't care about anything else basketball wise.

Well you find it wrong, there are casuals that follow the entire league only to suck Hardens/Durants/Nephew s.
And as some are saying in this very thread they dont care about bad calls, etc, because they love the stars and everything they do, thats why Harden is always a god, now he failed but In a couple of months he will be a beast again on internet discussions.
Some of them are here using alts to suit their needs.

[daslicer]

Well you find it wrong, there are casuals that follow the entire league only to suck Hardens/Durants/Nephew s.
And as some are saying in this very thread they dont care about bad calls, etc, because they love the stars and everything they do, thats why Harden is always a god, now he failed but In a couple of months he will be a beast again on internet discussions.
Some of them are here using alts to suit their needs.

I would say this is true and applies to the guy you replied to.

[dbreiden83080]

Love how Kawhi is now actively trying to push 2018 as an injury rather than a quit job. Funny how he is forced to talk now that he’s playing again versus ducking everybody for an entire year

His departure from SA remains the weirdest thing I have ever seen in the NBA. To not even finish out his contract, and pull what he pulled to get out.. Beyond ed..

[daslicer]

Uncle Dennis is a great con artist. I will give him that. He's willing to be buddy buddy and fake with these guys up until the Raptors season is over and then he will pack his bags with #2 and come down to LA.

[Mikeanaro]

I would say this is true and applies to the guy you replied to.

It could be, the most interesting question is why they want to discuss BB in some team forum and pretend those guys to be casuals like them.

[Beartrucci]

I would say this is true and applies to the guy you replied to.

Flattered but this is definitely the only account I use.

[DPG21920]

You keep going back and forth between the quality of the team, and the quality of PG or Wade. The fact is that the Pacers and Heat that the Raptors matched up against in those seasons were not as good as this Philly team that was just eliminated. You're not only overrating those teams, you're also overrating Demar's own weight or influence. Those teams were beaten by big games from Lowry, Valanciunas, Powell, Biyombo... So not only was this Philly team better than any of those earlier opponents, it was very much a matter of Kawhi carrying the greatest load and having the single biggest influence on the outcome as opposed to having others carry the heavy load for him while his performance went in the tank. It's laughable that you're wasting so many posts arguing this.


Well, the bare truth is that Demar never did lead the Raptors to the ECF. He was always dead weight that was carried through the playoffs by other guys taking turns being heroes. Perhaps if Demar didn't turn into a pumpkin every post season then they would have made the ECF more than once, or maybe even had a puncher's chance in the one they did make, but no, he had to turn into apractice pylon for Lebron and the Cavs. In that sense, the statement is correct. Kawhi did lead, while Demar did not.

I firmly think that this season's Raptors team would have beaten the Cavs the previous two seasons. Maybe not the earlier ECF matchup in 16 where it was the Raptors first time there and was a le season for CLE, but these past two seasons would not have been sweeps and they likely would have resulted in LBJ not making the Finals again.

This is all silly. This Raptors team could have beaten the Lebron led Cavs that beat GS when they struggled with a very average PHI or even the other versions of Brons Cavs?

Just because you want to prop up Kawhi (which I fully understand) doesn’t change the fact that ORL and PHI is not a harder path than IND/MIA with Wade/PG. Having a star player is part of the quality of the team. , look at TOR. No one for TOR other than Kawhi really stepped up (at least consistently). Sometimes having a super star is enough which is why going through Wade/PG matters vs going through PHI type players. Yet on one hand you are arguing they could beat Lebron. You are admitting what I am saying about Wade/PG with your Kawhi carrying the load argument; stars matter.

And you can downplay DeRozan and some of it is justified. But he was the leading scorer for TOR basically every year and especially that year in the playoffs when they made the ECF.

Let’s see if Kawhi can do any better. Lebron’s championship Cavs are better than the Bucks; so if you think this TOR team could have beat Lebron led teams, MIL should be a walk in the park.

[phxspurfan]

His departure from SA remains the weirdest thing I have ever seen in the NBA. To not even finish out his contract, and pull what he pulled to get out.. Beyond ed..

He worked a trade. Hardly new. But the way he did it, faking an injury, sitting out a whole year and opportunistically blaming it on team doctors and Parker's rant, that is new.


But to be honest, giving Mills and Gasol those contracts and not going out and getting any more talent around him probably pissed him off. That's on the FO. Being cheap as usual. They did it to Robinson and Duncan, too.

[Johojowhite]

Uncle Dennis is a great con artist. I will give him that. He's willing to be buddy buddy and fake with these guys up until the Raptors season is over and then he will pack his bags with #2 and come down to LA.

You wish, Kawhi is staying and this franchise traded him for scraps.

[HarlemHeat37]

Is timvp ever going to tell us what he knows, tbh?

It must be serious since it was enough for him to say it makes Kawhi look like less of a villain IIRC..

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

If this is true, why did Manu and the rest of LMAs teammates rally around him and make subtle jabs about showing up? Just stop already, you aren't hearing OUTSIDE of anything you watch on First Take. Unless your aunt has insider information she passes on during your love sessions.

[slick'81]

He worked a trade. Hardly new. But the way he did it, faking an injury, sitting out a whole year and opportunistically blaming it on team doctors and Parker's rant, that is new.


But to be honest, giving Mills and Gasol those contracts and not going out and getting any more talent around him probably pissed him off. That's on the FO. Being cheap as usual. They did it to Robinson and Duncan, too.

Leonard probably wanted a little input before they wasted a max slot on those two cancers

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

There is nothing wrong asking for a trade IMO. Is it a great look? No. But it’s not a fatal flaw. If kawhi would have done what LMA did, be a professional and a man and gone directly to Pop/RC and requested a trade in private while continuing to play good solider in front of the media, HE would be viewed differently

Boom

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Love how Kawhi is now actively trying to push 2018 as an injury rather than a quit job. Funny how he is forced to talk now that he’s playing again versus ducking everybody for an entire year

Yup. Total PR bull . Fake ass injury and he gets to fake history now about it in a way that fools people into thinking he was a victim that overcame being treated so badly last year..Boohoo fake ass got.

[Beartrucci]

Yup. Total PR bull . Fake ass injury and he gets to fake history now about it in a way that fools people into thinking he was a victim that overcame being treated so badly last year..Boohoo fake ass got.

And people are going to want to believe whatever he/his team says because he's becoming the next Kobe, etc. in most peoples' eyes. People love a winner and they'll believe whatever narrative they want to because of that.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

He worked a trade. Hardly new. But the way he did it, faking an injury, sitting out a whole year and opportunistically blaming it on team doctors and Parker's rant, that is new.


But to be honest, giving Mills and Gasol those contracts and not going out and getting any more talent around him probably pissed him off. That's on the FO. Being cheap as usual. They did it to Robinson and Duncan, too.

This is close to where I sit. I'm pissed at both sides. Kawhi is a for faking an injury, hiding and lying about everything in order to get to LA which pretty much ended Manu's career a year early (my opinion), stole 19 mill and a championship we could have won, I honestly believe we would have beaten Golden State.

But also Pop and the front office are jackasses who never did to improve the team around him and horrible coaching decisions. em both.

[Bynumite]

Spurfans still dwelling on Kiwi's departure on a daily basis







It still hurts

[Twisted_Dawg]

Is timvp ever going to tell us what he knows, tbh?

It must be serious since it was enough for him to say it makes Kawhi look like less of a villain IIRC..

Plus he said he would be likely blackballed. PATFO?

[slick'81]

This thread will go on throughout leonards historic career

[JeffDuncan]

This thread will go on throughout leonards historic career

And beyond. After Leonard has retired and been voted into the HOF this thread will still be going, with the same old men repeating the same old things.

[Twisted_Dawg]

This thread will go on throughout leonards historic career

And beyond. After Leonard has retired and been voted into the HOF this thread will still be going, with the same old men repeating the same old things.

A lot of guys stay bitter and angry for years after being dumped by a woman. They finally get over it and move on after they meet someone new. Hopefully the Spurs find someone new.