Bertans unhappy with role

[Spurtacular]

Since it would have been Pop the one that made the move, of course you wouldn't have cared. Your sole role on the Spurs section of this forum is to act like Pop never made a mistake in his life.

Chump's bread and butter is sperm shielding for persons in power.

[Joseph Kony]

Davis is a nice regular season player but he couldn't hit post all star break and was atrocious against Denver. He is definitely a better option than Mills or Belineli, but Mills is irrelevant to bring up in this discussion anyway. I would prefer him staying over keeping Gay, but honestly he probably has more value as trade bait because I'm sure the majority of the league would love to have a 6'10" sniper. I would prefer the Spurs look to trade him and one of our first round picks to either move up or nab an actual SF from another team

[Dex]

Oh shucks, someone should've told me that that's just how Pop is.

Going with the veteran, even though he's a vastly inferior player, is definitely the right move now that I know that's just how Pop is!


Yet at the same time you don't blame Pop for giving his pet wombat guaranteed minutes despite ting the bed all series long on both sides of the ball--not just Game 7.

I'm starting to feel like the "wombat" schtick is giving up your alts, tbh.

Otherwise, yes...any coach worth his weight in salt is going to stick with his veteran who is struggling over a young, unproven player who is struggling when push comes to shove. And after White's spectacular 36-point game...Denver adjusted and he never figured it out. He was hurting the team more than he was helping in the first half of Game 7, and Pop made the right call....as evidenced by the fact that the team almost overcame a 15-point deficit with Mills on the floor.

[RVSTX]

Give me DAVIS! ILL TAKE THE BIG GUY PLAYING THE 3, AND AT LEAST SHOOTING THE 3, OVER THE GUY THAT CANT SHOOT THE 3, AND PLAYS MEDIOCRE DEFENSE!!!

[Spurtacular]

"We hoped to win in the first round and then move further. During the season, we sometimes played so well that we got the confidence that, if we continue, we could get to the finals and win. It must be said, however, that it is difficult to keep this level throughout the season.”

[phxspurfan]

The ninja Bert deserved more. As I re-watched game 7 last night I thought Bert should have been played more. Instead Pop went with Patty and Forbes, Gay, DeMar and LMA. Since DeMar will need all the minutes to justify his 30mill, and he basically plays SF, and LMA plays PF/C and while Gay is playing well, Bert is going to have a tough road here in SA.

[phxspurfan]

Davis is a nice regular season player but he couldn't hit post all star break

Also this. Bert u gotta be less Bonner more Black Mamba. Gotta hit those Js nawimsayin

[GreekSpursfan]

Davis got exposed in the playoffs early on and Pop finished him off. His slow af defensive awareness did him in.

[look_at_g_shred]

Davis got exposed in the playoffs early on and Pop finished him off. His slow af defensive awareness did him in.

Y didn’t he finish Mills and Beli off? I mean it’s game 7, you see that they aren’t doing so why not at least try Lonnie? What do you have to lose? At the very least he gets playoff experience going forward. Smdh

[slick'81]

Y didn’t he finish Mills and Beli off? I mean it’s game 7, you see that they aren’t doing so why not at least try Lonnie? What do you have to lose? At the very least he gets playoff experience going forward. Smdh

Just thank god pau asked out or hed still be ahead of poodle tbh

[superbigtime]

I think he'll get better.

[8FOR!3]

For as much as finances don't matter he sure is getting paid market value at the very least. There's things I like about him, he has a compe ive at ude but he doesn't really show it on the floor sometimes. At times he could be a lot more involved when he's out there, most of the time he's not doing anything to keep him on the floor in a playoff rotation sense.

[jbspurs]

I really like Bertans but guys he can’t defend for lol teams give the ball to whoever he’s guarding most of the time

You sure you're not talking about Patty Mills?

[BackHome]

The problem with Bert is Poop is in his head you can tell he is playing not to make a mistake vs just balling and not thinking.

[FkLA]

I'm starting to feel like the "wombat" schtick is giving up your alts, tbh.

Otherwise, yes...any coach worth his weight in salt is going to stick with his veteran who is struggling over a young, unproven player who is struggling when push comes to shove. And after White's spectacular 36-point game...Denver adjusted and he never figured it out. He was hurting the team more than he was helping in the first half of Game 7, and Pop made the right call....as evidenced by the fact that the team almost overcame a 15-point deficit with Mills on the floor.

Oh god, not this again. White was hurting the team the first half of Game 7 so let's bench him for a vastly inferior player that hurt the team all series long just because he's a "veteran". Great move, obviously. I'm sure Wombat's stellar play (a whopping 0 points, 1 FGA, and terrible defense) was the reason the Spurs woke up in the 2nd half and almost came back. Not to mention all the little things he does that don't even show up on the boxscore!

[FkLA]

Oh and I don't have alts. The reason the wombat nickname has caught on is because it fits that overpaid, overplayed, coach's pet perfectly.

[timvp]

Oh and I don't have alts. The reason the wombat nickname has caught on is because it fits that overpaid, overplayed, coach's pet perfectly.

Tbh, I thought you loved Mills. Guess things changed . . .

[FkLA]

Tbh, I thought you loved Mills. Guess things changed . . .

He hasn't been worth a since the Clippers series. Got in amazing shape for a year or two then got fat again.

Although tbf the real culprit in all of this is Pop for showing him favoritism.

[Mugen]

White, Mills, and Beli were all trash in Game 7, nobody is really disputing that....

I just find issue when the apologists say well hindsight is 20/20 when Beli and Mills were literal trash the entire series

I don't even care about Game 7, Spurs lost that game in the 1st quarter. They lost the series when Pop decided to play the trash duo heavy minutes at the same time in Game 2 (3rd quarter) then again in Game 4 (2nd quarter)......

Don't give me that bs about hindsight, just say Pop had some ty coaching moments in the series and that his mistakes were what a lot of posters predicted he'd up on...

[phxspurfan]

just say Pop had some ty coaching moments in the series and that his mistakes were what a lot of posters predicted he'd up on...

Very true. Every Spur fan watching knew Denver was going to come back in game 2 when Pop put the bull lineup in. He does it every year at critical times, tinkering/playing favorites when he has a proven, successful lineup ready to be deployed.

[Pavlov]

Since it would have been Pop the one that made the move, of course you wouldn't have cared. Your sole role on the Spurs section of this forum is to act like Pop never made a mistake in his life.

Nope, he's made plenty of mistakes.

Your sole role is to act like you are completely perfect in your basketball evaluations.

Bertans sucked in these particular playoffs. Nothing you post is ever going to change that.

Ever.

Sorry.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Don't blame him at all. Losers like Beli and Patty were getting all you can eat minutes by the old man even when they were having a terrible series (cheered on by the Suckers of course)....

Bertans didn't play great but his leash was short as compared to those two...

He'd do great on another team that knew fully how to utilize him and didn't bench him for midgets at the first sign of trouble...

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Oh, this is the part where you become purposely obtuse so that you can apologize for your god . . .

1) Who said anything about games 6 and 7? When he was killing Belinelli beforehand, Craig became the starting 3 (as opposed to the backup 4, which was Bertans' only natural matchup), it became worth a shot.

2) You don't know that and again, so long as it was about equal (which is to say terrible), give me the significantly better shooter, who's long overdue for progression to the mean.

3) He started playing more as a nominal wing when Poeltl started, since that pushed Gay to the backup PF. Bertans is a better athlete than Belinelli.

4) That's not the argument, nor is it that Bertans on Beasley/excising Belinelli from the rotation was some magic elixir. The point is, it was more than worth a shot, but as usual the genius decided to play favorites.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Dex, you're my guy but it wasn't hindsight bias...

A large portion of us were calling Patty and Beli being absolutely useless in a Denver series and they went ahead and the bed, with both playing more than DWhite when it mattered most in Game 7....

Don't call it hindsight when people say beforehand that "Pop is going to the bed by relying on his fat koala too much this series" and Pop goes and does exactly that

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

White, Mills, and Beli were all trash in Game 7, nobody is really disputing that....

I just find issue when the apologists say well hindsight is 20/20 when Beli and Mills were literal trash the entire series

I don't even care about Game 7, Spurs lost that game in the 1st quarter. They lost the series when Pop decided to play the trash duo heavy minutes at the same time in Game 2 (3rd quarter) then again in Game 4 (2nd quarter)......

Don't give me that bs about hindsight, just say Pop had some ty coaching moments in the series and that his mistakes were what a lot of posters predicted he'd up on...

Yup