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    derp level "i heard about it" crap
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    To be honest, I dont know a terrible lot about her. I just lumped her in with Bernie because the overall consensus is that she's a Bernie lite of some kind.
    Eunuch actually onto something in spite of Lite being triggered. Warren formulated some light package sh** based on Bernie's platform while trying to not appear like she jumped the shark. Why would you vote for the unabashed socialist when you could have the abashed socialist? (If that's what one really believes in).

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    Capitalism with a safety net and robust investment in education and healthcare isn't socialism.

    Every other rich capitalist country in the world has this figured out.

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    Liz Warren isn't anybody's socialist: she's a recovering Republican who got mugged by reality when she did field work on bankruptcy law.

    She expected to find a preponderance of lazy, irresponsible people who made bad choices.

    What she mainly found instead were people who worked hard to stay out of bankruptcy, but were overtaken by bad luck and a system that loads the dice in favor of creditors.

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    Name recognition and stupidity. I’ll give Republican voters credit that they’re a lot more passionate about the primary process than Democratic voters are (as much as I might disagree with where their passion is geared), which is why the rise of someone like Trump doesn’t happen with Democrats. Instead it’s largely a name recognition contest.
    This is a very salient point.
    The red team picked who actual people wanted. Their primaries got down to a much more democratic (not the party) level of voting.
    Then the question becomes what happens when it takes on a populist tinge as derptacular has aptly shown us.

    Boots does not believe elections matter matter so I don’t understand why he even lives in a democracy.

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    This is a very salient point.
    The red team picked who actual people wanted. Their primaries got down to a much more democratic (not the party) level of voting.
    Then the question becomes what happens when it takes on a populist tinge as derptacular has aptly shown us.

    Boots does not believe elections matter matter so I don’t understand why he even lives in a democracy.
    Boots doesn't live in one if he's American.

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    Boots doesn't live in one if he's American.
    people who still call America a democracy

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    So it’s an oligarchy? What is the US?
    In today’s world it is a democracy, there is no doubt.

    Because votes can change things.
    Donald Fkn Trump is president. This is the evidence.
    A democracy is the only place this could occur.


    Which is the point. Voting matters.

    These pampered boys who don’t know what it’s like in most of the world.

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    So it’s an oligarchy? What is the US?
    In today’s world it is a democracy, there is no doubt.

    Because votes can change things.
    Donald Fkn Trump is president. This is the evidence.
    A democracy is the only place this could occur.


    Which is the point. Voting matters.

    These pampered boys who don’t know what it’s like in most of the world.
    South Dakota having as much of a vote in the Senate as California is anything but a Democracy.

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    South Dakota having as much of a vote in the Senate as California is anything but a Democracy.
    the House was capped at 435 seats in 1911, when USA had 92M population

    211K per seat (if strictly proportional)

    US now has 330M, so the House is as anti-democratic as the Senate with its godawful bias of area-over-population

    760K per seat

    USA is not proportional democracy at all.

    https://www.thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml

    The oligarchy has purchased/gamed America's political system so that the oligarchy owns/operates politics and govt.

    USA was not founded as a democracy but as an white male wealthy oligarchy by the FFs who were horrified by the non-oligarchy




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    South Dakota having as much of a vote in the Senate as California is anything but a Democracy.
    Oh yeah.
    Thats it...

    Yep, That put us over the edge.
    Converted to authoritarian red neck.

    Why did I not see it?

    You cant be serious...

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    the House was capped at 435 seats in 1911, when USA had 92M population

    211K per seat (if strictly proportional)

    US now has 330M, so the House is as anti-democratic as the Senate with its godawful bias of area-over-population

    760K per seat

    USA is not proportional democracy at all.

    https://www.thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml

    The oligarchy has purchased/gamed America's political system so that the oligarchy owns/operates politics and govt.

    USA was not founded as a democracy but as an white male wealthy oligarchy by the FFs who were horrified by the non-oligarchy



    Then what are we boots? Classify the US.

    *say oligarchy*

    Go ahead, and then Im going to go country by country, you classify and justify thereby causing your head to explode trying to rationalize horribly stupid answers.

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    Oh yeah.
    Thats it...

    Yep, That put us over the edge.
    Converted to authoritarian red neck.

    Why did I not see it?

    You cant be serious...
    Can you rewrite this in paragraph form? I can’t decipher you’re down syndrome haikus.

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    Capitalism with a safety net and robust investment in education and healthcare isn't socialism.

    Every other rich capitalist country in the world has this figured out.
    Is this so-called safety net called Social Security or Capitalist Security?

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    Can you rewrite this in paragraph form? I can’t decipher you’re down syndrome haikus.
    Your example sucks...

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    Capitalism with a safety net and robust investment in education and healthcare isn't socialism.

    Every other rich capitalist country in the world has this figured out.
    Average of 12K? per student isn't enough? Probably because so much is going toward teachers' health care and pensions. Maybe US should copy Canada - I believe money should follow the student whether Jewish school, Catholic school, Muslim school, public school - student and parents' choice.

    Wikipedia: The Cons ution of Canada provides cons utional protections for some types of publicly funded religious-based and language-based school systems.

    The Cons ution Act, 1867 contains a guarantee for publicly funded religious-based separate schools

    It doesn't cost that much to educate a kid these days with a computer, internet access, printer and a library card.

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    So it’s an oligarchy? What is the US?
    In today’s world it is a democracy, there is no doubt.

    Because votes can change things.
    Donald Fkn Trump is president. This is the evidence.
    A democracy is the only place this could occur.


    Which is the point. Voting matters.

    These pampered boys who don’t know what it’s like in most of the world.
    Those who mock US and its ills don't know how good they have it and should take a good look at the rest of the world. The hated and reviled Trump is president - a response to people fed up of the establishment.

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    Those who mock US and its ills don't know how good they have it and should take a good look at the rest of the world. The hated and reviled Trump is president - a response to people fed up of the establishment.
    I have seen and asked a lot of questions/read a lot about the rest of the world (uncle is a diplomat; helps).
    It is clear to me democracies cab be terribly inefficient and bersome.
    But we voted in... sorry for the language... a fckn egomaniac of a clown (he would never make it starting from scratch in a country like those he proclaims affection for their leaders Putin and fat missile boy)

    So, democracy makes a mess of it. But, we move on, and correct the situation hopefully.
    So join me in voting for anyone else, please, in 2020.

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    Average of 12K? per student isn't enough? Probably because so much is going toward teachers' health care and pensions. Maybe US should copy Canada - I believe money should follow the student whether Jewish school, Catholic school, Muslim school, public school - student and parents' choice.

    Wikipedia: The Cons ution of Canada provides cons utional protections for some types of publicly funded religious-based and language-based school systems.

    The Cons ution Act, 1867 contains a guarantee for publicly funded religious-based separate schools

    It doesn't cost that much to educate a kid these days with a computer, internet access, printer and a library card.
    so this is ($12,000 ?) the projected income of the parent who knows math, science, literature, history, and social skills... yet stays home/library and uses the computer to teach? This skyping is off the charts now I guess. Its like, holographic.


    Yikes.

    j/k sort of...

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    Is this so-called safety net called Social Security or Capitalist Security?
    Your emphasis seems more semantic than analytical.

    Do you consider the form of aocial insurance known as Social Security to be socialistic?

    If so, how so?

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    Of course, you'll only deflect, play dumb and call me names. Anything but answer a direct question.

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    Your emphasis seems more semantic than analytical.

    Do you consider the form of aocial insurance known as Social Security to be socialistic?

    If so, how so?
    It's not corporate security.

    You don't have the most basic of grasps on what socialism is if you can't understand this.

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    Dude, that's not responsive to the question and barely makes any sense.

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    Are social mores socialistic? They are not, after all, called capitalistic mores.

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    Average of 12K? per student isn't enough? Probably because so much is going toward teachers' health care and pensions. Maybe US should copy Canada - I believe money should follow the student whether Jewish school, Catholic school, Muslim school, public school - student and parents' choice.

    Wikipedia: The Cons ution of Canada provides cons utional protections for some types of publicly funded religious-based and language-based school systems.

    The Cons ution Act, 1867 contains a guarantee for publicly funded religious-based separate schools

    It doesn't cost that much to educate a kid these days with a computer, internet access, printer and a library card.
    You've been propagandized. The problem is not teacher benefits but a burgeoning and ever more expensive class of school administrators who contribute little to learning.

    Just guessing, you probably didn't mention a safety net because you probably think it just and proper that paupers starve in the streets if they can't afford to pay, in the richest country in the history of the world.
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