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I sincerely hope you are just kidding.
Democracy is easier with educated interested voters.
It makes no long-term sense to attempt to create a significant, ignorant, “no hope” lower class A class that grows year after year.
There is a critical mass for ignorance and huge income differences. History has not been kind to these societies. People who have nothing to lose can be very dangerous and not very sympathetic.
See what I did there. Trying to scare people without asking them to hate each other like OUR orange blimp.
Yes I made fun of him.
I sincerely hope you are just kidding.
No, thanks.
No, voter turnout being crap in 2016 was the response. LOL at Trump winning Wisconsin with less votes than Romney got losing the state in 2012.
What would be the policies of a so-called centrist Dem?
The Dems have been fully duped into "failing" neo-liberalism since the Clinton or even Reagan years.
He tries so hard to prove to himself he's not re ed and ends up sounding even dumber than he expected.
Some posts are just TOO funny. I'll leave you to guess. Thanks for the laugh.
Last edited by rmt; 06-05-2019 at 06:32 PM.
Thanks for the contentless scoffing. Impressive!
we know home-schooler rmt is anti-public school, so her takes on public school are not credible.
My vote doesn't mean in Texas. My vote would matter in Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Ohio.
DNC centrism:
Democratic National Committee to Jay Inslee: No climate-focused debate
Washington Governor Jay Inslee wants the Democratic National Committee to host a climate change-themed debate.
Apparently, so do nearly a half-dozen of the other 22 Democrats who have thrown their hats into the 2020 race.
https://grist.org/article/dnc-jay-inslee-no-climate-change-debate-cnn/
So we are not a democracy because of the electoral college.
That’s not good enough.
Guess you don’t vote in local elections.
Which may actually have more of an overall effect on you directly.
In the not too distant future your vote will absolutely count in Texas based on demographic shifts.
But by then you might live in Ohio.
You can say this about any election in which your candidate lost by more than one vote .
Last edited by pgardn; 06-05-2019 at 09:58 PM.
No not entirely.
Dammit
There’s no turning a Trumper.
We're not a democracy because of the senate which completely s up the idea that each voter has an equal voice. What a joke. We're not a democracy because our cons ution enshrines a two party system (due to how the president is chosen) and our supreme court enshrined the idea that money equals speech. We're not a democracy because ideas that are very popular with the people like a much more progressive tax system have absolutely no shot in of becoming law thanks to minority rule through having a senate. Same for having a national healthcare.
There is no way any local election matters more to most people than national ones. No local election is going to fix a parasitic healthcare system that needs be razed and rebuilt. No local election is going to determine if friends and family members are going to have to go kill brown people halfway across the world because Lockheed-Martin needs their corporate welfare check to keep producing killing machines.
The idea was that rural folks producing the food would not have a voice as they are separated by lots of land.
And it does not disqualify the US from being considered a democracy.
So what do you classify the US as?
Some people feel that when they are run out of their house due to property taxes created by local en ies that they have been effected more by local decisions.
The US is an oligarchy.
I would heartily disagree based on our last major election.
In fact I would say it was populism that one the day with the masses falling for it.
The major power structures within the Republican Party did not want him.
And right now he is being challenged on trade by the same groups.
This also depends on your definition of an oligarchy because there are a number of different power groups in the US. And interestingly, they can actually oppose each other. Imo some sort of very loose oligarchy is always going to exist in a capitalistic society just because there have to be heirarchies to be efficient. So we are also playing with definitions here. No group of families chose Donald Trump to be president.
Saying your vote does not matter is giving up.
So voting means it's a democracy?
Trash winning means it's a democracy?
Trash and the kleptocratic kakistocrats of his Exec doing everything for the oligarchy and NOTHING for his rightwing populists means it's a democracy?
Voting is pointless because what voters want, what the voters vote for, gets ignored for what the oligarchy buys for itself (without voting, only buying judges and politicians).
The only group that got what it wants is the hate-driven, vengeful Christians, who got abortion denied, LGBTQ screwed, public education screwed, only because those don't cost the oligarchy anything, so the oligarchy panders to the hate-driven, vengeful Christians for their votes.
Let's say Dems win the Presidency, keep the House, but not the Senate, so NOTHING passed by the Dem House will get voted up by the Repug Senate, because the oligarchy has weaponized the Senate and bought rural states for their Senators.
What the voters wanted by elected Dems will NOT be delivered because the oligarchy's s in the Senate, and in the corrupted Federal judiciary.
iow, voting is meaningless, voters are disenfranchised, the oligarchy holds ALL the power that their $Ts can buy.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-06-2019 at 10:27 AM.
No, it's understanding the reality that it's meaningless for anything more than my house representative. I still vote because (1) I'm stubborn and (2) my house seat could actually be compe ive in a major wave election thanks to gerrymandering, but the big vote is for president and my vote is completely ing worthless there. Texas probably won't be a battleground state until I'm 80.
This idea that Trump is some populist leader who had to fight the establishment at every turn in order to win is a joke. He's cut taxes for the rich, increased defense spending, weakened Dodd Frank (which is saying something given how weak it already was), and weakened Obamacare. Sounds like someone who's really sending a chill up the establishment's spine
The simple fact you get to vote doesn't make America a Democracy. Despite the fact most Americans want higher taxes for the rich, single payer healthcare and a harsher regulatory environment for Wall Street, we have a two party system where neither party wants to reform our backwards healthcare system or put forth the tax plan that Americans want.
We don't have a democracy. We have a snooty, 18th century republic that has minority rule in its DNA, and the GOP is exploiting that to the max, with a big assist from corporatist Dems who have refused to even propose any of the highly popular policies you mentioned, until very recently.This idea that Trump is some populist leader who had to fight the establishment at every turn in order to win is a joke. He's cut taxes for the rich, increased defense spending, weakened Dodd Frank (which is saying something given how weak it already was), and weakened Obamacare. Sounds like someone who's really sending a chill up the establishment's spine
The simple fact you get to vote doesn't make America a Democracy. Despite the fact most Americans want higher taxes for the rich, single payer healthcare and a harsher regulatory environment for Wall Street, we have a two party system where neither party wants to reform our backwards healthcare system or put forth the tax plan that Americans want.
Here's a broad strokes picture where the oligarchy s the Repugs are executing the oligarchy's coup d'etat,
where the USA is gradually becoming a one-party govt fully supported by a corrupt, politicized judiciary
The two most important Supreme Court cases you’ve probably never heard of
Why have a democracy when you can be ruled by five men in robes?
https://thinkprogress.org/the-two-mo...-5a86a9dbf201/
America is ed and un able
So we have never been a democracy?
Or we were a democracy until?
Or we were a democracy during certain periods (please name them)
Anyone above.
Educate the board.
PThis idea that Trump is some populist leader who had to fight the establishment at every turn in order to win is a joke. He's cut taxes for the rich, increased defense spending, weakened Dodd Frank (which is saying something given how weak it already was), and weakened Obamacare. Sounds like someone who's really sending a chill up the establishment's spine
The simple fact you get to vote doesn't make America a Democracy. Despite the fact most Americans want higher taxes for the rich, single payer healthcare and a harsher regulatory environment for Wall Street, we have a two party system where neither party wants to reform our backwards healthcare system or put forth the tax plan that Americans want.
This is nonsense.
You are playing DMC with me.
“the idea that he had to fight at every turn?”
Who stated this?
Bottom line is that he is highly impulsive and unpredictable.
People are totally buying in to the bootian useful idiot simpleton theme.
He has turned the Republicans as much as they have turned him.
Where did the fiscal responsibility go? The debt, the debt... When did Republicans big business really snuggle up to the made in America non capitalistic ideas. When he threatened companies?
Sorry folks this is not your Bush republican.
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