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Nope. This is a three pick draft, and two of them won't likely be as good as Tatum. Boston gets AD. They just have way better assets than the Lakers empty cupboard.
Samanic, get him
Nope. This is a three pick draft, and two of them won't likely be as good as Tatum. Boston gets AD. They just have way better assets than the Lakers empty cupboard.
We arent getting for derozan
I more went of a position of need and it is only one extra year. I do understand your point of them not wanting to pay to get rid of Jackson but they already have so many SG. I would easily do Beli for Jackson but would try and have them take mills instead as we have so many PG. With our Picks I would try and get a SF and PF. One I would like to get is Okere. I know he would be out a year but would give us a jakcson replacement if he doesnt work out or he wants to leave. We could either get him with 29 or the Suns.
Jackson reminds me a lot of Kawhi. I know people hate that but he is a defense player that is not a great shooter. Hopefully we could make him better but if not it would not cost much.
He's a headcase who ran away from the police IN CUFFS. That alone would make the Spurs disinterested. He's also not good at ANY shooting. His career FG% is 41.5. Awful. His career FT% is 65. Awful. His career 3G% is 29.4. Damn near awful, but we'll just call it bad. I think they're going to have a hard time finding a taker. As a #4 overall pick, his contract skyrockets in the next two years, $7M, and $8.9M for a player who hasn't shown much progress. If he were just having on court issues, you might take a chance, but he seems to be a real dumbass.
Supposedly spurs had interest in him pre-draft. But a lot of red flags right now.
This guy is dialed in to the Suns organization:
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You could say the same thing about Stephen Jackson when the spurs took him back. For the little risk it would be worth it. Kawhi was not a good shooter when he was drafted. From what I have seen most of his off court stuff has been minor. I understand Spurs culture but you also have some of the other players doing things that was not spurs type. AD had some minor issues also. If you want someone that makes no mistakes you are going to have to give up something of higher value. With where we are drafting I doubt we would get anything close to him in the draft. If he does not work in the first year we can let him walk. They fact that we have people arguing both sides means it is a fairer trade then mills for the 6th pick.
Speaking of trades, since there is a logjam, would anyone trade Mills for JR Smith? Could play him at SF and if hes a dummy can waive him for only 3.5M and have Mills money off the books next year
I wouldn't. The chemistry risk is to great for a diminishing player like JR. If this was the JR from 3 years ago I would.
If the Flakers loose AD to Boston and KY stays with Raptors and Kevin end up in Boston or New York then they need to land Klay or DEROZZ. They can’t go through another season with out making noise they have to sign a big name person.
The question is besides the 4th pick what else would you want from The Flakers?
Nothing except lonzo sucks and bloodclot ingram
The problem is all those moves would happen after the draft. Would Spurs still be interested in the 4th pick if it's somebody we don't want(another guard). The 4th pick is only enticing if the Lakers choose a guy we could use like Hunter. The issue is Lakers aren't likely to draft a forward since they already have a logjam of them on their roster.
White and #19 for Mikal Bridges and #6
They didn’t ‘take back’ Stephen Jackson, they took back a contract that matched RJs, but was a year shorter. Pop suspected that there could be trouble down the line, and was VERY clear in his phone call after the trade. It consisted of one sentence: “There will be no discussion of an extension”. He barely lasted over a year before they cut him loose. That’s a poor example to use as an example of why they should bring JJ aboard.
Kawhi shot 45% from the field, and 75% from the FT line, giving indication that his shot could be worked with. Poor FT shooting is a strong negative marker for long range shooting. JJ shot poorly across the board, as stated in my post above.
Give them Mills, Forbes and the Raptors pick. Seems fair.
I dont see why Jackson is a bad example as you could also say the same thing about mills. Jackson contract is shorter and cheaper then mills. RJ was not causing problems so cant say they were getting rid of him. He was not playing up to his contract but neither is mills. Pop may have known some of the issues with Jackson but he did go after him. If it was to get a shorter contract they would not have had to attach the first round pick. nothing I have ever seen has mentioned that they wanted to get rid of Jefferson. If it was that they could have gone after others but they wanted Jack.
If you go to college then Jackson shot better then Kawhi except ft. JJ 51.3 FG 37.8 3s and 56.6 FT. KL 44.4 FG 29.1 3s 75.9 FT and that is his better year of the two on FT and 3s. He was not a great shooter comming out of college. The Spurs did a lot to help his shot.
There are thousands of kids coming out of college every season. If a team can’t find something at #6 then it’s a problem with the scouting
The 3 that I've seen at that spot in most mocks are Cam Reddish, Jarrett Culver, and Coby White.
the problem is you're thinking about basketball. PATFO thinks about Coffee Gang. There's no way they would trade a good locker room guy for the exact opposite.
Suns have to go full Patfo to make a trade for any assets on the Spurs.
They most certainly WERE getting rid of Jefferson. As you stated, he wasn’t playing up to his contract. He was also in Kawhis way. Your premise that they were actually interested inJackson is also flawed, your reason being that they attached a pick to the deal. They attached a pick, because they were essentially dumping an extra year of salary, to the tune of $11M, on Golden State.
Sacrifice Defrozen for the 6 pick and Forbes.
nobody wants dd
To trade DDR would mean trading for him was a mistake. PATFO will never do it.
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