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    Correct, but I care more about the actual issues than I do about whatever label is next to the person's name.

    I guess you care more about labels than issues.
    passive aggressive

    Bernie can run as an independent. Then he can ensure Trump's second term.

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    I'd consider voting for Bernie if he was, you know, a Democrat.

    He's a socialist who refuses to join a political movement for collective action.
    would you vote for him if he became the democrat nominee?

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    would you vote for him if he became the democrat nominee?
    Sure.

    Then he'd be a Democrat.

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    Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/polit...ll-highlights/

    If he can be a Democrat when it's convenient I can vote for him when it's convenient.

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    Why is Bernie doubling down and making "I am a socialist" specifict rallies now?

    Is he just panicking now that Warren seems to have that second place running status? Even she is staying away from mah socialist talk.

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    passive aggressive

    Bernie can run as an independent. Then he can ensure Trump's second term.
    I wouldn't call that post passive at all, it's aggression was pretty direct.

    Bernie running as an independent would be selfish, which is why he's running as a Democrat and won't run at all if he doesn't win the nomination.

    Why are you obsessing over what he labels himself as?

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    I wouldn't call that post passive at all, it's aggression was pretty direct.

    Bernie running as an independent would be selfish, which is why he's running as a Democrat and won't run at all if he doesn't win the nomination.

    Why are you obsessing over what he labels himself as?
    "obsessing"

    Will you vote for Biden if he gets the nomination?

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    Why is Bernie doubling down and making "I am a socialist" specifict rallies now?

    Is he just panicking now that Warren seems to have that second place running status? Even she is staying away from mah socialist talk.
    I honestly think Bernie would be perfectly fine with losing the nomination if Warren won.

    Him calling himself a proud socialist is a strategy to get in front of someone like Biden calling him a socialist as a negative.

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    "obsessing"

    Will you vote for Biden if he gets the nomination?
    It depends. If he wins the nomination fair and square then I'll definitely vote for him. If it's a 2016 repeat where superdelegates ignore voters and the DNC does everything it can to help Biden then I'll probably not vote in the general at all.

    I say that now however I'm not going to pretend I won't pussy out and end up voting for Biden if Trump presents a new slew of awful ideas leading up to the election (even if it's a bull nomination process).

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    It depends. If he wins the nomination fair and square then I'll definitely vote for him. If it's a 2016 repeat where superdelegates ignore voters and the DNC does everything it can to help Biden then I'll probably not vote in the general at all.

    I say that now however I'm not going to pretend I won't pussy out and end up voting for Biden if Trump presents a new slew of awful ideas leading up to the election (even if it's a bull nomination process).
    So it will all depend on Bernie butthurt.

    OK.

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    So it will all depend on Bernie butthurt.

    OK.
    Definitely not. Biden is the only candidate I'd ever consider not voting for. As much as I'm not a fan of Buttigeig or Harris I'd vote for them over Trump too.

    Who are you going to be voting for in the primary?

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    Definitely not. Biden is the only candidate I'd ever consider not voting for. As much as I'm not a fan of Buttigeig or Harris I'd vote for them over Trump too.

    Who are you going to be voting for in the primary?
    Don't know. Probably a Democrat.

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    Don't know. Probably a Democrat.
    In states if you are registered as a democract you vote only on democracts not republican

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    In states if you are registered as a democract you vote only on democracts not republican
    ducks

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    I think the Dem / centrist women will go for Liz

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    I'd consider voting for Bernie if he was, you know, a Democrat.

    He's a socialist who refuses to join a political movement for collective action.
    Didn't he campaign for HRC after she won the 2016 nomination? Is that misremembered?

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    Didn't he campaign for HRC after she won the 2016 nomination? Is that misremembered?
    It is. The narrative that poor Hillary lost because of big evil Bernie is much more convenient.

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    It is. The narrative that poor Hillary lost because of big evil Bernie is much more convenient.
    I never said he didn't campaign. your narrative

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    I never said he didn't campaign. your narrative
    I never said you said anything with respect to whether or not he campaigned. I was speaking generally.

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    My narrative is generally speaking his supporters were butthurt.

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    My narrative is generally speaking his supporters were butthurt.
    if the polls can be believed, their second choice seems to be Biden this time around.

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    My narrative is generally speaking his supporters were butthurt.
    They left his suggestion in the trash on the way out.

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    I vote for Biden easily over the lying sack of orange .
    Anyone. And thats all it will take imo.

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    Newly Uncovered Abortion Remarks From Biden May Seriously Damage Campaign
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/48377...mpaign=dwbrand

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    The idea that any abortion is a tragedy or that we should do what we can to limit abortions isn't really that controversial imo (granted the best way to limit abortions is to give easy access to birth control, not simply kill government funding for abortions like Biden suggests), and 3rd trimester abortions really should be avoided outside of rare cir stances.

    Of all of Biden's flaws, this is a really stupid one to be going after.

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