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    And does the guy who made 5.3 million last year really need to be empowered vs the old rich white guy? I can think of plenty others more in need of empowerment.

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    And how do you undo this now? Even if Morris stays, the damage is done. Would that locker room welcome him? Pop? How can fans be ok with this.

    Of course SA would still do it and it would probably be glossed over but this was colossally stupid letting this leak.

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    Like what, two people? Criticism of Klutch is natural, even vital. Timvp was saying that it's not. He's trying to walk back his statement and it's not working. He was wrong.
    Going after Klutch is futile at this point. Ultinately its within the rules and its Morris's decision. You think trading Murray or forcing him to get involved is smart? Smart move is to stay patient and make tactical decisions. If Klutch was involved the overreaction and slandering of Morris os fuel for Morris and other players and agents to criticize Spurs fan base. Keep the criticism inline with the presence at hand. As of roght now, everyone is obviously emotional but, in the end, better to be level headed about this stuff and keep things in context. Spurs will probably work their back channels.

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    If this were the nfl I’d buy the rich white owner stuff, but nba players have it better than anyone and there needs to be balance and it’s tipped wayyyyy to far at the moment and causing real harm.
    Just because they have it better than the other leagues doesn't mean they shouldn't try to get as much power as they can.

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    Yeah sounds just like vintage Timvp. Just walking back because he mouths off so much. Pick your battles. This one is ing stupid.

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    It's interesting that Morris hasn't made a decision yet. I thought that he'd quickly sign with the Knicks after the news hit the press.

    This is definitely a case of no news is good news for the Spurs. The longer this stretches out, the better chance that he'll ultimately pick the Spurs.

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    And does the guy who made 5.3 million last year really need to be empowered vs the old rich white guy? I can think of plenty others more in need of empowerment.
    Yeah considering the guy who made 5.3 million is the one who did all the work. Why are you upset at players exercising whatever power they have? As long as it doesn't violate the CBA they're not breaking rules that were mutually agreed to so whats the problem other than the team you root for getting screwed?

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    Morris backs out and everyone on ST starts fighting with each other. NBA players really do have too much power. It extends to forums.

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    Nah. him tbh.

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    And how do you undo this now? Even if Morris stays, the damage is done. Would that locker room welcome him? Pop? How can fans be ok with this.

    Of course SA would still do it and it would probably be glossed over but this was colossally stupid letting this leak.

    Yep. Every bit of that. And if he leaves, and he probably will, anyone you bring knows they are second choice, or worse than second choice because the market dried up. It's a bloody mess.

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    They we’re just talking about it on nba tv during the knicks summer league and there’s not mention how much of a sick move it is to the spurs, only about how impactful it would be for the knicks. img ridiculous

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    And how do you undo this now? Even if Morris stays, the damage is done. Would that locker room welcome him? Pop? How can fans be ok with this.

    Of course SA would still do it and it would probably be glossed over but this was colossally stupid letting this leak.
    I've wondered this from page 1 of this thread. Who do you think leaked it? It doesn't make much sense that Klutch would leak it. It had to come from the Spurs camp so if thats the case then they must be ready to move on, no?

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    Shouldnt the spurs already obtained a verbal commitment from Morris and his agency before trading Bertans? From a legal perspective, a verbal contact as as good as written. I believe there’s is something legally spurs can do ( if they opt to do so).
    im sure they got a verbal commitment. but no, its not binding as a verbal contract. there are certain types of contracts which must be in writing to be enforceable, this is among them.

    te ally the spurs may have some legal recourse, but not one that would force morris to honor any agreement with them. just money damages. and there's zero chance they do that. no FA would look at the spurs if they go around suing players

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    LAS VEGAS — Free-agent forward Marcus Morris is considering reneging on his agreement with the San Antonio Spurs to take a deal with the New York Knicks, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

    Morris, who played with the Boston Celtics last season, agreed to terms with the Spurs on a two-year, $20 million pact with a player option on the second year.

    The Spurs traded traded forward Davis Bertans to the Washington Wizards to open up the midlevel exception for Morris.

    However, the Knicks now have a one-year, roughly $15 million offer on the table for Morris, sources said.

    But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said.

    Word began circulating at Summer League of Morris’ hesitancy when he didn’t show up to take his physical a few days ago.


    Morris averaged 13.9 points and 6.1 rebounds last season for the Celtics.

    The Knicks are also reworking the two-year, $21 million agreement with guard Reggie Bullock due to a physical red flag, sources said.

    The Spurs have started reaching out to other free-agents wings in case Morris decides to join the Knicks, sources said.

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    And how do you undo this now? Even if Morris stays, the damage is done. Would that locker room welcome him? Pop? How can fans be ok with this.
    Really? If he takes an extra day to decide and ultimately signs with the Spurs, no one will remember. The storyline would be that he got a last second offer that was like 60% higher than San Antonio's offer yet decided to sign with the Spurs anyways after taking a day or two to think about it.

    This whole thing would be forgotten in about a week.

    Obviously, my guess is he goes to NY but no need being overly dramatic until something actually happens.

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    And how do you undo this now? Even if Morris stays, the damage is done. Would that locker room welcome him? Pop? How can fans be ok with this.

    Of course SA would still do it and it would probably be glossed over but this was colossally stupid letting this leak.
    it would be fine tbh. he's on a 1+1 and would be motivated to earn a contract next summer.

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    I have absolutely no doubt that Morris is gone. Spurs were su ion when he didn’t show up for his physical. Was that before the Bertrans move and the DeMar extension? We’re the Spurs trying to free up the full MLE knowing they needed to go after another SF/PG?

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    I would think the players would be okay with it since it’s a players league and they may understand that they need to do what’s best for them. Pop, different story...

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    It's interesting that Morris hasn't made a decision yet. I thought that he'd quickly sign with the Knicks after the news hit the press.

    This is definitely a case of no news is good news for the Spurs. The longer this stretches out, the better chance that he'll ultimately pick the Spurs.
    Hope you're right. The longer he takes the more he may feel Spurs fanbase disowning and sla dering him while Knicks media trying to compliment him etc.. hopefully he does sign with the Spurs and helps them beat the Lakers.

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    It's interesting that Morris hasn't made a decision yet. I thought that he'd quickly sign with the Knicks after the news hit the press.

    This is definitely a case of no news is good news for the Spurs. The longer this stretches out, the better chance that he'll ultimately pick the Spurs.

    He may be feeling the blowback and questioning whether it's a good move. But like DPG said above, it's still messy if he comes on board now. He and the Spurs would have to spin the story to talk about what a character guy he is to keep his commitment.

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    Yeah considering the guy who made 5.3 million is the one who did all the work. Why are you upset at players exercising whatever power they have? As long as it doesn't violate the CBA they're not breaking rules that were mutually agreed to so whats the problem other than the team you root for getting screwed?
    Because I’m not so sure it doesn’t violate the CBA. It certainly violates the intent and spirit behind the CBA. And it’s particularly bad when the team relies on a promise to its detriment and sends off a player for nothing.

    People would be up in arms of the shoe were on the other foot and the Spurs reneged. The iden y of the party backing out doesn’t make a difference legally. A deal is a deal and should be enforced as such.

    I think there’s an argument to be had about who’s putting in work, but the player is definitely the one putting work on the court.

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    It's interesting that Morris hasn't made a decision yet. I thought that he'd quickly sign with the Knicks after the news hit the press.

    This is definitely a case of no news is good news for the Spurs. The longer this stretches out, the better chance that he'll ultimately pick the Spurs.
    Have to agree. If it's just about the money then you'd want it over and done with. Dragging it out just attracts attention in the NBA news vacuum which usually follows the initial free agency frenzy.

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    Good luck with the “search” feature.

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    They we’re just talking about it on nba tv during the knicks summer league and there’s not mention how much of a sick move it is to the spurs, only about how impactful it would be for the knicks. img ridiculous
    It's gonna be so very much impactful for the Knicks when they trade him to the Lakers at the trade deadline for a 2025 2nd round pick and go on with their tanking 2020 season like nothing changed.

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    I don't understand

    He didn't sign the contract?

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