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    That was my primary fear when Trump got elected. His rhetoric stirred up a very angry sentiment in his "base," and believe it or not, rhetoric from leaders can influence. To balance my criticism, Trump was able to stir through his rhetoric because of how suffocatingly politically correct the left has gotten over the years. Combine all this with a 24/7 news cycle (Fox News talks about illegal immigration about 80 percent of the time, echoing Trump's rhetoric) and social media (twitter, the chans, the darker parts of reddit), and you have a recipe for radicalization.
    That's why we need a House and Senate full of Ilhan Omars and AOC's. They are not politically correct and speak truth to power. The only one good thing abouts Trump winning is the rise of these social Democrats or "The Squad."

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    That was my primary fear when Trump got elected. His rhetoric stirred up a very angry sentiment in his "base," and believe it or not, rhetoric from leaders can influence. To balance my criticism, Trump was able to stir through his rhetoric because of how suffocatingly politically correct the left has gotten over the years. Combine all this with a 24/7 news cycle (Fox News talks about illegal immigration about 80 percent of the time, echoing Trump's rhetoric) and social media (twitter, the chans, the darker parts of reddit), and you have a recipe for radicalization.
    Agree with all of this. But then you have Trumpsters claiming that public education is the reason these people snap.

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    /Donald is already coming up with conspirasy theories

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    That was my primary fear when Trump got elected. His rhetoric stirred up a very angry sentiment in his "base," and believe it or not, rhetoric from leaders can influence. To balance my criticism, Trump was able to stir through his rhetoric because of how suffocatingly politically correct the left has gotten over the years. Combine all this with a 24/7 news cycle (Fox News talks about illegal immigration about 80 percent of the time, echoing Trump's rhetoric) and social media (twitter, the chans, the darker parts of reddit), and you have a recipe for radicalization.
    How in the world is 4chan, 8chan, /rDonald still an active website?

    It's the three biggest online radicalization tool. If it was deleted and removed, a couple years before. Would Christchurch shooter and this elpaso shooter have the avenue to express their hatred and politicise their actions? Maybe they'll find a different avenue, but it certainly would have decressed the likelihood of these events

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    /Donald is already coming up with conspirasy theories
    Trump and his Trump followers work backwards from their conclusions . If it's a lefty then he's guilty, no due process. If it's someone on the right then we need to investigate or it's staged

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    How in the world is 4chan, 8chan, /rDonald still an active website?

    It's the three biggest online radicalization tool. If it was deleted and removed, a couple years before. Would Christchurch shooter and this elpaso shooter have the avenue to express their hatred and politicise their actions? Maybe they'll find a different avenue, but it certainly would have decressed the likelihood of these events
    I still defend freedom of speech. You should feel free to say loony things, like say all Mexicans are worthless bean3rs or all white people commit incest (but the line is drawn if you make a direct threat), but doing loony things is obviously a different story. The Chans, r/Donald, etc aren't the causes, more the symptoms. But it's a self-perpetuating phenomenon.

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    I still defend freedom of speech. You should feel free to say loony things, like say all Mexicans are worthless bean3rs or all white people commit incest (but the line is drawn if you make a direct threat), but doing loony things is obviously a different story. The Chans, r/Donald, etc aren't the causes, more the symptoms. But it's a self-perpetuating phenomenon.
    100%. How do you destroy ty ideas? With better speech. We need more freedom of speech, not less.

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    Because derp can spot the potential protectors vs the killers.

    Derrrrrp
    Cucksense.

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    Oh okay, makes sense now. Eveybody at Walmart was getting in the way of responsible gun owners, that's why they never got a shot off. Our well regulated militia never got a clear shot.
    How many gun carriers do you think were in there, dude?

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    I was pulling for a non white shooter.
    That was never gonna happen. Whites are the ones being recruited, dude.

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    That was never gonna happen. Whites are the ones being recruited, dude.
    recruited by who? lol

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    That was never gonna happen. Whites are the ones being recruited, dude.
    For what and by whom?

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    How many gun carriers do you think were in there, dude?
    Going by the journalistic coverage, more than zero.

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    Sometimes good guys with guns don't shoot. They didn't shoot the shooter.

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    How many gun carriers do you think were in there, dude?
    No way of knowing. A normally crowded Walmart in Texas probably would have one or two at least if I had to guess. But I already adressed that in an earlier post. I was just responding to your ridiculous post.

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    Sometimes good guys with guns don't shoot. They didn't shoot the shooter.
    Which is what I said earlier. Unless you're LE or military, most concealed handgun owners have only shot at paper targets in a controlled environment and have certainly never been shot at. And unless a shooter is nearly within arm's reach, staying the out of the way is what most people are going to do.

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    Perhaps the only silverlining here is that another one of these so-called 'revolutionaries' as Nathan likes to call em, that would start this 'racial war', is spending the rest of his life getting his as pounded by vatos in jail.

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    Perhaps the only silverlining here is that another one of these so-called 'revolutionaries' as Nathan likes to call em, that would start this 'racial war', is spending the rest of his life getting his as pounded by vatos in jail.
    The gov said something about investigating this as a hate crime so as if the crime weren't bad enough this kid is almost certainly getting the death penalty.

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    Which is what I said earlier. Unless you're LE or military, most concealed handgun owners have only shot at paper targets in a controlled environment and have certainly never been shot at. And unless a shooter is nearly within arm's reach, staying the out of the way is what most people are going to do.
    Seems reasonable to me. FWIW, the cops didn’t shoot him either.

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    No way of knowing. A normally crowded Walmart in Texas probably would have one or two at least if I had to guess. But I already adressed that in an earlier post. I was just responding to your ridiculous post.
    Possibly one or two; quite possibly zero. Nothing whatsoever ridiculous about my post. You're just having yourself a cry.

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    Sometimes good guys with guns don't shoot. They didn't shoot the shooter.
    Maybe, they're not that good. It takes a coward to run away while people are getting butchered. Just another reason to not overly rely on cops. You think they were eager to run into that at breakneck speed?

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    Maybe, they're not that good. It takes a coward to run away while people are getting butchered. Just another reason to not overly rely on cops. You think they were eager to run into that at breakneck speed?
    What's your EDC, bro? Just curious. Have you ever been in a fire fight, or even close proximity to one?

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    Maybe, they're not that good. It takes a coward to run away while people are getting butchered. Just another reason to not overly rely on cops. You think they were eager to run into that at breakneck speed?
    Nope.

    That takes training or derring do. A gun can’t give you that all by itself.

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    Nope.

    That takes training or derring do. A gun can’t give you that all by itself.
    The other issue is that these mass killers are almost always carrying semi-automatic rifles and the standard cop is carrying just a hand gun with little ammo. It's typically an unfair fight to begin with if it's one-on-one as you would expect it to be in the very first moments of a shooting event.

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    The other issue is that these mass killers are almost always carrying semi-automatic rifles and the standard cop is carrying just a hand gun with little ammo. It's typically an unfair fight to begin with if it's one-on-one as you would expect it to be in the very first moments of a shooting event.
    Tactical smarts sometimes precludes an immediate firefight. Very true.

    Not sure what happened here, though. The details are still sketchy.

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