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    DMC porn mode activated
    21 really got to him

    Dude's just flailing now.

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    you asked what my position was and instead of retyping what i had recently typed i linked you to the post.

    i asked if you are a proponent of repealing 2A and you've squirmed about instead of committing to an answer with like "it should be proposed and we'll see how courts react to it."

    i asked if you want to repeal 2A and your response was that you, individually, cannot repeal 2A. you're not even feigning legitimate discussion
    You're wrong and misleading the forum about what we said. You misspoke again.

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    10/22 vs 30-30

    it's so technical


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    Still waiting on your criteria for which semi automatics are ok and which aren't. You can just say it's based on your feelings when you see the gun. It's okay.
    i never said it was based on what looked scary. i was pretty clear that i wanted the legislation to cover all semi automatic rifles.

    you then posted a youtube and said "EVEN THIS ONE??!?!??"

    my response was simple. is it a semi automatic rifle? yes? then it would be subject to that legislation. period.

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    10/22 vs 30-30

    it's so technical

    You really don't want to talk about this.


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    i never said it was based on what looked scary. i was pretty clear that i wanted the legislation to cover all semi automatic rifles.

    you then posted a youtube and said "EVEN THIS ONE??!?!??"

    my response was simple. is it a semi automatic rifle? yes? then it would be subject to that legislation. period.
    it's not technical enough

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    You're wrong and misleading the forum about what we said. You misspoke again.
    nope.

    i cannot personally amend the BOR

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    i never said it was based on what looked scary. i was pretty clear that i wanted the legislation to cover all semi automatic rifles.

    you then posted a youtube and said "EVEN THIS ONE??!?!??"

    my response was simple. is it a semi automatic rifle? yes? then it would be subject to that legislation. period.
    The problem is that your terminology is wrong.

    You can ban semiauto receivers. They don't need to be rifles. Rifling is just a barrel type.

    Your intent is to outlaw long guns that have receivers that can auto load after each pull of the trigger. You call that a semi auto rifle but "gun nuts" who know law is all about terminology will find ways to have a rifle that auto loads after each pull of the trigger while still meeting the requirements of the law that was penned by people like you who don't know the difference. This is where placebo legislation comes from. You'd need to swing a gun nut to your side to make it happen, and hope he's a lawyer.

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    nope.

    i cannot personally amend the BOR

    signed,
    guy pretending to want legitimate discourse

    Link it. Don't edit or call "misspoke". Just link it.

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    The problem is that your terminology is wrong.

    You can ban semiauto receivers. They don't need to be rifles. Rifling is just a barrel type.

    Your intent is to outlaw long guns that have receivers that can auto load after each pull of the trigger. You call that a semi auto rifle but "gun nuts" who know law is all about terminology will find ways to have a rifle that auto loads after each pull of the trigger while still meeting the requirements of the law that was penned by people like you who don't know the difference. This is where placebo legislation comes from. You'd need to swing a gun nut to your side to make it happen, and hope he's a lawyer.
    semi automatic rifle is the wrong term? oh ok

    just another example of bogging this all down into technical jargon and semantics. everybody here perfectly understands what i'm referring to with semi automatic rifle. that should be good enough for the discussion. i'm sure a bill going through congress would include more language than a spurstalk post

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    The problem is that your terminology is wrong.

    You can ban semiauto receivers. They don't need to be rifles. Rifling is just a barrel type.

    Your intent is to outlaw long guns that have receivers that can auto load after each pull of the trigger. You call that a semi auto rifle but "gun nuts" who know law is all about terminology will find ways to have a rifle that auto loads after each pull of the trigger while still meeting the requirements of the law that was penned by people like you who don't know the difference. This is where placebo legislation comes from. You'd need to swing a gun nut to your side to make it happen, and hope he's a lawyer.
    So the goalpost has been moved to "You must show us the full text of the finished bill that will be presented to Congress."


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    Link it. Don't edit or call "misspoke". Just link it.
    a minute ago you were whining about me linking a post instead of spelling it out. you now demand that i link a post

    in any event, here it comes. here is you saying "i cannot personally amend the BOR"

    I cannot personally amend the BoR.

    You didn't respond.
    your incoming response "you didnt put the proper capitalizations and punctuation. misleading philo"

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    It doesn't matter if he can't personally amend the BoR. He has to post the exact language that will be used to amend the BoR or his argument is automatically void.

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    What about a guy carrying this into walmart



    Less threatening than the 10/22?
    I bet a firefighter would pull his gun on you and wait for the police to arrive.

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    Lol you see wifey rape as porn
    You were actually visualizing rape in that "leaky vag/exposed " porn post?

    Wtf is wrong with you

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    You really don't want to talk about this.

    If you want to dazzle me with your knowledge of guns have at it. I own a few but I'm no expert. Make them illegal and I'll hand them over, don't have much use for them. Or don't change the laws at all, doesn't really matter to me.

    Just saying, make a cogent proposal if you're going to make one.

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    a minute ago you were whining about me linking a post instead of spelling it out. you now demand that i link a post

    in any event, here it comes. here is you saying "i cannot personally amend the BOR"



    your incoming response "you didnt put the proper capitalizations and punctuation. misleading philo"
    So link it. Still waiting.

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    If you want to dazzle me with your knowledge of guns have at it. I own a few but I'm no expert. Make them illegal and I'll hand them over, don't have much use for them. Or don't change the laws at all, doesn't really matter to me.

    Just saying, make a cogent proposal if you're going to make one.
    He's not going to. He's going to nay say you hoping you'll stay up all night with him.

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    So link it. Still waiting.
    Here

    I'll do it for you...

    so you're a proponent of repealing 2A?
    Are you here to discuss it or just snatch a crumb or two?

    quid pro quo

    I think it should be proposed. I'd like to see how the court responds to it. Could the 3 party system be a deterrent to the kind of change we really need?

    You?

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    If you want to dazzle me with your knowledge of guns have at it. I own a few but I'm no expert. Make them illegal and I'll hand them over, don't have much use for them. Or don't change the laws at all, doesn't really matter to me.

    Just saying, make a cogent proposal if you're going to make one.
    So the goalpost has been moved to "You must show us the full text of the finished bill that will be presented to Congress."


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    He's not going to. He's going to nay say you hoping you'll stay up all night with him.
    you wanted to know how the court would respond to an amendment to the Cons ution.

    They would say it's cons utional.

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    He's not going to. He's going to nay say you hoping you'll stay up all night with him.
    I know. We did that last night. ing dogs wouldn't let me sleep.

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    semi automatic rifle is the wrong term? oh ok

    just another example of bogging this all down into technical jargon and semantics. everybody here perfectly understands what i'm referring to with semi automatic rifle. that should be good enough for the discussion. i'm sure a bill going through congress would include more language than a spurstalk post
    The term "semi-auto" is correct, but restricting it to "rifles" is placebo legislation because the difference between a rifle and handgun diminish based on the platform. You can drop an H&K 45 into a frame and have the equivalent of an urban assault weapon. You still have the semi-auto movement with a generic frame, not classified by the ATF as a short barrel rifle so it wouldn't be covered by your "semiauto rifle" ban. You have to legislate the intent, not the generic term when you don't understand the terminology.

    You can discuss gun control without knowing about guns, but you are discussing gun laws.

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    you asked what my position was and instead of retyping what i had recently typed i linked you to the post.

    i asked if you are a proponent of repealing 2A and you've squirmed about instead of committing to an answer with like "it should be proposed and we'll see how courts react to it."

    i asked if you want to repeal 2A and your response was that you, individually, cannot repeal 2A. you're not even feigning legitimate discussion
    a minute ago you were whining about me linking a post instead of spelling it out. you now demand that i link a post

    in any event, here it comes. here is you saying "i cannot personally amend the BOR"



    your incoming response "you didnt put the proper capitalizations and punctuation. misleading philo"

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    The term "semi-auto" is correct, but restricting it to "rifles" is placebo legislation because the difference between a rifle and handgun diminish based on the platform. You can drop an H&K 45 into a frame and have the equivalent of an urban assault weapon. You still have the semi-auto movement with a generic frame, not classified by the ATF as a short barrel rifle so it wouldn't be covered by your "semiauto rifle" ban. You have to legislate the intent, not the generic term when you don't understand the terminology.
    Great.

    Include those things you listed.

    Where's the goalpost moving now?

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