trump impeachment watch thread

[TSA]

Yeah, it's fun to watch them try to navigate this minefield.

they don’t have to navigate it because they refuse to even step on the field

[ElNono]

Quote the actual transcript. What was the favor he asked for?

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it: As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

The President: Good because I’heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Photograph: Saull Loeb / Getty Images Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Photograph: Saull Loeb / Getty Images

Anything else you need? Now walk back the 'false claim'. Thanks.

[ElNono]

and that makes it okay

Didn't make that claim, but the optics are clearly different.

I also would like to see evidence of your claim about Obama's interference. I mean, you know, an actual phone call transcript? Let's see it.

[ElNono]

Democrats and msm have zero interest in election interference by Ukraine and the origin of russiagate.

I thought there was no russiagate?

[ElNono]

what's really ridiculous about this guy is that one day he says these calls are heavily populated, then the next day he releases this transcript, which is ridiculous in and of itself... how stupid are you?

[DarrinS]

I thought there was no russiagate?

There's not, at least with respect to Trump.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d8&oe=5E3735CF

[Winehole23]

Expressly using and then admitting to such while acting like it’s no biggie.

The corruption and brazenness are frankly admired by Trumpistas, not least because it riles the libs, but also because impunity is a signifier of power.

If Trump loses, he'll carry the stink of defeat and that is the only thing the GOP cannot forgive. They'll all start saying he was never conservative and never Republican in unison, like they did with GWB after the 2006 midterms.

[boutons_deux]

what's really ridiculous about this guy is that one day he says these calls are heavily populated, then the next day he releases this transcript, which is ridiculous in and of itself... how stupid are you?

yep, just ing amazing ing stupid Trash is.

He spews his BS of the moment, as if all his other BS, lies are forgotten.

Trash is emotionally, cognitively ed.

[ElNono]

There's not, at least with respect to Trump.

We have a pretty large justice system, security apparatus, state department, etc. That's their job.

The contention that 'X did it too' is pure whataboutism. It's never right and they all should pay the price, if the evidence is there.

[DarrinS]

This whole political theater, orchestrated by Schiff, I have no doubt, will end up sinking Biden's campaign.

[Winehole23]

Yeah, it's fun to watch them try to navigate this minefield.

The minefield is real and the White House is running around in it.

Someone needs to tell Giuliani -- and Trump -- to shut the up. They are terrible clients.

[DarrinS]

We have a pretty large justice system, security apparatus, state department, etc. That's their job.

The contention that 'X did it too' is pure whataboutism. It's never right and they all should pay the price, if the evidence is there.

He released his own phone convo.

[ElNono]

This whole political theater, orchestrated by Schiff, I have no doubt, will end up sinking Biden's campaign.

Adam t and Pelo are terrible. I don't think I've seen a better shot at impeachment right here, but these dudes will manage to it up.

Getting rid of Bidden, on the other hand, might be real positive to the DNC.

[TSA]

The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it: As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

Anything else you need? Now walk back the 'false claim'. Thanks.

Take your L and move on Nono.

[ElNono]

He released his own phone convo.

Who's he? Trump? What does that has to do with anything? Releasing that transcript only shows the levels of stupidity.

Obviously, the transcript would've come out one way or another, Congress has authority over it.

[DarrinS]

Adam t and Pelo are terrible. I don't think I've seen a better shot at impeachment right here, but these dudes will manage to it up.

Getting rid of Bidden, on the other hand, might be real positive to the DNC.

Agree with first sentence, but not the next.

Progressives think the country is left wing -- they are not.

Pennsylvania would vote for sleepy Joe in a heartbeat.

[ElNono]

Take your L and move on Nono.

yeah, you have nothing to say or rebuke. I didn't think so. And next time quote the entirety of what I posted, nobody would want to think you're being disingenuous.

Now that we've established you got nothing and you were lying to boot, let's move on.

[TSA]

yeah, you have nothing to say or rebuke. I didn't think so. And next time quote the entirety of what I posted, nobody would want to think you're being disingenuous.

Now that we've established you got nothing and you were lying to boot, let's move on.

“The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents”

The personal favor he asked for was looking into Crowdstrike. You were and are still full of . You can’t spin this. Move on.

[Winehole23]

[DarrinS]

Whinehole reduced to cartoons

[Winehole23]

Whinehole reduced to cartoons

So your deal is, this is no biggie?

[DarrinS]

I'm personally more interested in the crowdstrike stuff than Biden.

[ElNono]

Agree with first sentence, but not the next.

Progressives think the country is left wing -- they are not.

Pennsylvania would vote for sleepy Joe in a heartbeat.

I don't buy this at all, it's way more complicated than that. Metropolis will vote for anything with a D next to it, the rest will not. It's just a matter of getting out the vote.

[Winehole23]

I'm personally more interested in the crowdstrike stuff than Biden.

To be completely clear, you don't care that DJT dangled US military aid to get campaign dirt, correct?