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Is Rudy going to dive under the bus himself and say he wrote the phone call out for Trump and Trump did not understand what he was doing?
As I stated before.
Do the American people understand the history of early foreign interference in our elections and why the founding fathers considered this so off limits? And our president initiates this.... Blue team has work to do with the public airing because some people don’t get it and the red team relies on ignorance for this incredibly serious call.
Is this history and idea really only in the realm of a political nerd... who is not a political nerd. A science nerd, but not a political nerd. People in this country don’t understand our origins thus why there is such surprise in the reaction. Just a phone call, “help us out, we give you money; let’s make this the perfect call”
Is Rudy going to dive under the bus himself and say he wrote the phone call out for Trump and Trump did not understand what he was doing?
Trumpistas still using this lie that the ukrainian prosecutor was fired because he was investigating bidens son -
and the truth is the opposite =
He was fired for NOT investigating corruption.
But the uneducated NEVER seem to get that part - he was NOT investigating corruption and the USA foreign policy will not/should not support governments that allow corruption to flourish.
Rand and Chris are sticking with: Trump is a criminal that has been prosecuted.
Even after having stepped on their own 6 th amendment IED.
Amazing....
There is a bunch I don’t read in this forum but this solidifies the assertion that the red team will lie and present excessively disingenuous arguments to back their cause. Honesty is not in the red vocabulary. Facts have alternatives. Yes actually means No, if it fits the red cause. Thread was willing to admit it.
More keep me out of jail amnesia
What's funny about that cartoon is that it presents Trump as "just making an innocent suggestion" on something that Ukraine would have been aware of already. What would ever be the point of Trump even bringing it up on the call?
Scurred
Leaking to journalists =/= following whistleblower protocol
Steve Vladeck, a Supreme Court analyst for CNN and professor at the University of Texas law school, says invoking the Sixth Amendment to suggest that Trump has the right to face the whistleblower "is so wrong as to be embarrassing."
"The text of the Sixth Amendment literally limits its applicability to criminal prosecutions," Vladeck said. "Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution."
"There is no debate," Vladeck continued, "there is no division on the Supreme Court about this, there is no meaningful room for disagreement, this is just flat wrong." He also noted that the amendment does not afford the accused an absolute right to face everyone who contributed to the investigation.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/polit...eck/index.html
This is why the coward didn't take my bet. He's content posting lies on here and running away when he gets called out.
Whistleblower be like
It's absolutely correct to point out Obama's war on whistleblowers as a low point. I dedicated a thread contemporaneously because I thought people who expose waste, fraud and abuse in government should be protected from retaliation.
Do you think whistleblowers should be protected from retaliation, Nathan89?
Apparently PBS is going to broadcast them live then replay them primetime on World.
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