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Totally agree. And I think he doesn't know how. Just like I don't think he knows how to box out. When guys get to this stage, I honestly don't know who teaches them.
He seems agile enough to. But contesting the 3 these days is an art.
Totally agree. And I think he doesn't know how. Just like I don't think he knows how to box out. When guys get to this stage, I honestly don't know who teaches them.
Seeing Tim interact very positively with Lonnie during a timeout was very encouraging. I think Lonnie definitely has Tim in his corner, and Tim will influence Pop.
Not really defending Poodle, but boxing out is not something that is practiced consistently or very well in the NBA in general.
I recall Lonnie box out a big dude near the end of his run yesterday.
White took 6 3s cause the Wolves dared him to shoot because they know he can't shoot them well enough. It's part of the reason why the Spurs lost
Don't like "boxing out"? Call it "getting position", maybe "doin' your work early". When you're the center, it's your job to get a body on your man and keep it there. Jakob literally shows no awareness of that. I don't question that other players in the league have some bad fundamentals. Just talking about the Spurs here.
Not to be condescending, but do you know why guys get LOTS more defensive boards than offensive boards? Why both sides don't have an equal chance at pulling down every rebound? Think about it, and then pay attention to Poeltl next game. He gives up a lot of his advantage on the glass. It's simply technique, that would make him a lot more effective/valuable.
As always you are wrong on this topic. Its hard to get into position when you have constantly to help out other Defenders, cause they dont do their job. And its funny that always when Poeltl is on the Court, the defense in the Paint suddenly is much better and opponents switch to 3 Pointers. And cause spurs dont have perimeter guards, those opponents make those 3s. Minnesota game is the best example. Min made 3s, SAS did not.
Where i agree is, that he has to improve things on his play, for example i like him to be able to make short range shots and free throws, which would increase his value on the offensive side immensly. I often saw him with the ball, alone on the free throw line and he didnt shot it sadly. If his free throw percentage at least would go up to say 70%, opponents would foul him less or at least they would be punished more for it.
But compared to the rest of the team, Poeltl at least is reliable.
Sadly, that was the NBA of yesteryear.
Demographics -and shoe market- dictate today's NBA rules which favors athleticism and easy shooting over actual basketball. Defense is unappealing to watch and so is elaborate offense: the league decided that you can't guard shooters, must score a lot and quickly. Soon it will be All-Star weekend basketball from october to april...
Also, we must accept that bodies will be bigger and athletes are constantly improving: effectively, the court is much smaller and the basket is much lower than 30-20-10 years ago, all the more now than before jumping higher beats executing right.
Yaah, you are absolutely right. It's the B-side of capitalism. I'm optimistic thugh. We had the worst tv ever and somehow the public returned to the quality shows, same with the food and more things. Fast-cheap-easy-simple engages a lot initially but people realizes there is another way of doing things and it's more interesting. Maybe NBA TV ratings are telling us something about this soft NBA?
Agree again. Undeniable players improvement must go hand in hand with ruling adaptations in order to preserve the spirit of the game.
Answer my question then, Sparky. Why do guys get LOTS more defensive boards than offensive boards? Why do defenders have an advantage getting a rebound over offensive players? You've never really thought about it, have you? What I'm talking about has nothing to do with him helping on defense.
If you can't understand anything else, watch him when he's weak-side, between his man and the basket, and a shot goes up. His man slips past him and snags the carom far too often, because he completely forgets there's anyone else on the floor. Not only would he get more of those boards, he's playing with some of the best-rebounding guards in the league - they would come down with a lot of those rebounds if Poeltl paid any attention at all to boxing out. That's just fact, Sparky.
And do you think maybe the interior defense improves some because he's a 7-footer who's more at home in and around the paint? Asking for a friend.
I know why he took them and I don’t care that he missed them. DeRozan wouldn’t have shot those 3s and neither would Murray. its why I hated Fathead bc he wouldn’t take those 3s either. White having the confidence to shoot (and miss basically all six 3s) is an important step in becoming a better player.
Yeah, but the reason you want guys to fire those 3's is to pull defenders away from the paint. Those guys didn't even flinch toward White. (Just like that clip that got posted of the last game where they totally ignored DeRozan.) You don't mind a guy shooting and missing 3's as badly, if it stretches the defense some. But when a guy gets totally ignored, tossing up bricks doesn't serve any purpose except to end a possession.
This thing has gotten ugly.
i agree that White isn’t where I want him to be with his outside shot. Especially that performance. But i want players with balls and White had them. We aren’t winning this year anyways, Whites main issues are confidence and at ude. I think those are the two areas he needs to sharpen and even though he SUCKED at shooting, in the long run I think it’s a positive. Short term not so much
Can't argue with that part.
Edit: In fact, I'll go one better. What I said there wasn't fair. White is shooting .361 from 3P this season. On this team, that's got to be a green light. I don't know if he can keep his percentage up shooting more of them, but it's worth finding out.
Honestly, if I'm looking at this roster and trying to figure out who I would like to see start sending up more 3's, White is the guy.
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