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You still gambling on nfl games, I've gotten pretty good at it.
please enlighten me to the deeper meaning of Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
what am I getting confused about here?
You still gambling on nfl games
I'll play. Muhammad illiterate... how did he read the Quran?
Flying 3 planes into the World Trade buildings killing 3,500+ men ,women and children is allowed in the Quran?
They didn't have planes or twin towers back then so its debateable.
Is the band Sublime part of your and Islams connection?
The lead singer died from an overdose of Islam.
debatable? What did the Quran teach about the taking of life of innocents. If the Iranian terrorist are quoting and
following the Quranic verses, then Islam is teaching about taking the lives of all non-believers.
Example: ISIS and the killing of all Christians.
GOnna need some context on these direct quotes my man
Is America a religion?
Because holy , they sure do like to randomly kill people
Ask Ghazi. He will tell whether it teaches it or not.
maybe America should send all of our Mexican and Syrian refugees to Canada where they will all be safe from
American terrorist.
Good idea
You guys are ing nuts tbh
Well someone has to be the big swinging . Do you know how geopolitics work? Would you rather a Russian or Chinese global hegemony? Because those are the other 2 options.
Under Sharia law, if a woman tries to overcharge me for a handjob can I cut her hand off for trying to steal from me? Quite frankly the far more pressing question: do I get to keep the hand?
Taking advantage of the ongoing Islamophobia to troll
OP still is a worthless gambling addict who pays for pussy
Not sure if you where addressing me or Ghazi but I will assume you where addressing me and answer you to the best of my knowledge.
First though: As a preface, I am not a theologian, I do not study religion as a profession... I do it as mainly a hobbyist and just for general curiosity as to why people believe in what I consider nonsense. That, and I like to piss off people who believe in imaginary friends.
That being said....
The verse in the Quran (4:89) is a discussion between several members of the caliphate at the time Muhammad was around discussing how to deal with hypocrites ("hypocrites" is the closest translation for a term used for ALL non-believers).
This was a discussion between the Sahih (pretty much a governing body of islam is the best description I can give) and several prominent members of the faith including Muhammad. http://corpus.quran.com/translation....ter=4&verse=89
The verse in the Quran 8:12 is another discussion with the Sahih discussing angels and their messages... pretty much agreeing that "angels" are saying they agree with them, and to chop off the heads and limbs of the non-believers. Muhammad is also personally in this discussion. http://corpus.quran.com/translation....ter=8&verse=12
Again, in verse 9:14 the Sahih is asking the "faithful" to punish all non-Muslims for not following Allah. Muhammad even says humiliating them and killing them, that islams followers will rejoice in their suffering... http://corpus.quran.com/translation....ter=9&verse=14
Quran 9:29 is again the Sahih (a reminder that the Sahih is the governing body of islam): This is basically another discussion that those who do not "believe" should be killed or those who submit, according to Muhammad, should have their hands cut off... http://corpus.quran.com/translation....ter=9&verse=14
Quran 9:123 is again the Sahih telling the faithful to literally kill those of not of the same faith (or disbelievers) and rejoice in their death, because allah (god) is with them. http://corpus.quran.com/translation....er=9&verse=123
I can go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on.....
BTW, I have the same views towards the bible and any other religion which believes in an invisible sky daddy if anyone here hasnt seen my posts in the club forum.
It's literally like knowing a grownup who still believes in santa clause or the easter bunny..... It is just ing creepy and weird to me. Coupled that with the fact I live in Texas of all places.....
I've read many religious texts, including the bible, the torah, the quran and many others that I dont care to mention..... I probably know more about someones religion than that person professes to. They are all nonsense.
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I want to know why some think its okay to marry and 9 year olds and stuff.
Whats up with that?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/21...?referer=&_r=0
My bro who was over there fighting told me about this,they looked forward to Fridays because that was the day most of it took place(right before Muslim sabbath) as there wasn't much fighting due to all the buggery going on
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/21/wo...edophilia.html
More fun in the sand
Muhammad died in 632, and during his time the narration was primarily oral. His followers used to memorize this stuff and repeat it to one another. Now many of these early Muslims who memorized the verses died in battle, so there were multiple scattered pieces and versions. It was the third Muslim Caliph Uthman who finally brought together these varying accounts and produced the master version while destroying all the older copies. So what you read today is a manuscript pieced together from dozens of sources of questionable reliability and finally shaped by Uthman well after Muhammad's death. In this way, the origins of the Quran are very similar to the Bible - its authorship was ultimately a political act conducted after the original narrator had died. You're probably aware that several Shia scholars believed that the Quran had been tampered.
The Hadith is even worse - heavily based upon hearsay. Different branches of Islam have different compilations, and hundreds of alleged hadiths were rejected while many of questionable origin were included.
Once you accept that the details within these religious texts are the result of fallible human memory and decisions, it will be easier to explain the contradiction, irrelevance and capriciousness that is present. You won't need to resort to mental gymnastics in trying to defend the indefensible.
These books were probably significant in their time - when society needed the right mix of stick and carrot to ensure that people conformed to some common beliefs and goals. But that time has passed. Exhorting a religion's members to defend/expand the faith using the sword would have been useful in 7th century Arabia, but not so much now. Similarly, in modern society there is no need for instructions on how husbands can beat their wives, for advice on how to treat slaves, or to have a rapist marry his victim while paying her father money, or cutting off a thief's hands or stoning adulteresses to death.
the sublime truth of Islam: they are a 7th century medieval society trying to live in the 21st century and maintain such medieval customs.
religion, LOL
To kill one man is to kill all of mankind. This is Islams take on killing innocents. Some people like to misinterpret or place a view verses out of context to justify heinous acts, but that's on their souls, not Allah. and someone referenced 17:16 was used by Osama Bin Laden to justify 9/11.... that's just Osama being a murderer/terrorist with ties to the CIA, that quote in no way can be used by a rational person to justify 9/11
Hypocrites does not refer to all non-believers, it refers to a contingent of people who pretended to be Muslims and plotted against the Prophet.
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