Blazers: The sublime truth of Islam

[Ghazi]

If I offer you a religion that gives you a pantheistic connection to nature, animals, and the Universe and gives you peace of mind, tranquility, and happiness at all times... would you be interested in this religion or consider me crazy? Here I will answer all questions about Islam, any including the politically incorrect areas... I will tell you that there is sublime truth in the Quran.

[Avante]

The truth about Islam is this...

Mohammad was a murderous tyrant, some scholars think he might have been bipolar. He lied about the Angel Gabriel, which makes Islam a gigantic hoax. There were nothing handed down to Mohammad from Allah using the Angel Gabriel as the middle man, that is a lie.

As you know the Koran is chocked full of violence towards those dreaded infidels.

I have an interesting book..."Why I'm Not A Muslim"....written by an x-Muslim who was raised in that world, he talks about why he had to get out. Then there's ...Inside The Kingdom....written by an American woman who married into the Bin Laden family and the mistake that was. Then there are those other 20 or so hooks I have read all talking about the primitive world that is Islam, the violence and disregard for life, including their own.

The world would be a far better place if the Middle East and Islam simply dried up and blew away. Killing people over cartoons, are you kidding me?

[Bynumite]

you and your religion.

[Double-Up]

If I offer you a religion that gives you a pantheistic connection to nature, animals, and the Universe and gives you peace of mind, tranquility, and happiness at all times... would you be interested in this religion or consider me crazy? Here I will answer all questions about Islam, any including the politically incorrect areas... I will tell you that there is sublime truth in the Quran.

72 virgins right?...Pedophilia?...Polygamy?

[Avante]

Public beheadings in Saudia Arabia.

Suicide bombers.

People stoned to death.

Want to die...just draw a picture of Mohammad.

A book full of....cut off...burn...chop...violence violence violence....towards the non believers.

Hey come on up to paradise, just kill yourself and some infidels, no biggie. We got virgins, a load of them ( I'd prefer experienced women myself)

[Avante]

Funny coming from a Christian who's religion is based upon the testimony of someone like Saul who was never around Jesus and also based upon the Bible being compiled hundreds of years after the passing of Jesus with certain parts being left out, not to mention the numerous bibles printed since with different versions. What is the real Christianity? Does anyone really know? Of course not. Its been doctored and changed for over 2000 years now. Who knows what the real Christianity was meant to be.

I'm no Christian and the Bible is a load of bull , ok?

[Ghazi]

You dont know the truth about Muhammad, Avante... youve been exposed to Islamophobia and misinformTion and may Allah guide you on the right path. Muhammad entered in a time of tribal warfare, treachery, and corruption amongst the Meccan Pagans and the Jews. Hence, he was obligated to fight at times and usually in self defense (offense was a strategy of war as well). In 8 years of wars, Muhammads campaigns only killed around 1000 men. Also, if he was such a tyrant why did he not become wealthy? At his death what little he had was given to charity.

[Ghazi]

Public beheadings in Saudia Arabia.

Suicide bombers.

People stoned to death.

Want to die...just draw a picture of Mohammad.

A book full of....cut off...burn...chop...violence violence violence....towards the non believers.

Hey come on up to paradise, just kill yourself and some infidels, no biggie. We got virgins, a load of them ( I'd prefer experienced women myself)

The Quran itself says perverted men will use the Quran to justify their own ambitions and crimes. What the WAhhabists (who are accused of doctored hadiths) do is no reflection on Allah and His Apostle and the Sublime Truth of Islam

[Ghazi]

When an ignorant man commits a crime and evokes Allahs name or justifies it to the Quran, do people not ponder whether it is the will of that mans ignorance or if its the will of Allah? Ive read the Quran numerous times, it does not call for forced conversions or murders. Theres a few confusing verses (fight in the Way of Allah, slay the idolaters) but when understood in the allegorical context rational men realize these are not orders to kill or impose Islam

[Double-Up]

72 virgins right?...Pedophilia?...Polygamy?

[Ghazi]

Even if Muhammad was bipolar, you are forgetting that men like Mozart and Einstein were bipolar as well. Maybe bipolar in most men causes mood swings, obsessions, paranoia, pressurized speech, and things of the like... but its well known that bipolars are also highly creative, perceptive, and intelligent. Muhammad tapped into the best of his talents and he attributed it to The Divine rather than himself.

[Ghazi]

I have peace of mind, confidence, self esteem and feel connected with the Universe, nature, and the animals. This is Islam in its pure form. It is science, morality, philosophy, wisdom, justice, truth, reason.

[Ghazi]

Double-Up I will not debate with you. As Imam Ali (as) said: I never win debates against ignorant men, and I never lose debates against wise men.

[Ghazi]

People need to stop concentrating on "cultural Islam" and look for the Sublime Truth. Yes, we get it, most "Muslims" in this World give Islam a bad name. Why do you seek to slander Allah by pointing out the ignorance and stupidity of some men who dont know a lick about the Quran? First time i read quran I thought it was a "silly book of tales". I thought it was a figment of Muhammads imagination. Oh how little I knew.

[boutons_deux]

want "truth"? Check the Bible OT for the same level of craziness as the Koran

[Ghazi]

Islam does not teach forced conversions or beheadings. It teaches t do as Im doing now: Politely offer it to non-believers and not to get angry no matter what insults they throw at The Lord of the Expanding Universe

[Ghazi]

want "truth"? Check the Bible OT for the same level of craziness as the Koran

As a whole the Bible And Quran are literally uncomparable. Please show me a "crazy verse" and I will
give you the context, interpretation, or meNing if I can. The quran has a unique style and presentation that are just incredibly hard to mimic. Poetry was the big thing in Arabia at the time and the poets and Meccans were befuddled by Quranic majesty.

[Raven]

Muslims want virgins so they are not being judged for their incapability in bed and their small penises.

[phyzik]

Islam does not teach forced conversions or beheadings. It teaches t do as Im doing now: Politely offer it to non-believers and not to get angry no matter what insults they throw at The Lord of the Expanding Universe

Not sure what Quran you are reading...

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

I can easily find hundreds more, not only in the Quran but in the Hadith as well. Muhammad clearly spells out that islam is NOT about treating everyone equally. He even condemns believers who do NOT fight against the hypocrites (basically anyone not of the faith) and says people like you will end up in in verse 9:38-39. Ohh, and that horse about politely offering islam? you know what comes after that? Destruction after refusal.... It was what Osama Bin Laden did before 9/11. He invited America into islam. His justification was verse 17:16.

[Mal]

So my question is rather easy. How does religion allows rapes when women isnt covert in rags ?

[Ghazi]

Phyzik, you have to think about the deeper meanings of those verses. Arabic and Quran are littered with poetry and allegory. They are not literal commands for forced conversion... this is just how ignorant groups like to interpret it for their own agendas. Bin Laden justifies mass murder and says "cAuse Allah said so". Is this QurAn or Bin Ladens sickness? It is a confusing book for most men to read, and some extract misinterpretations from it (Quran says this book will be used by the perverse for their own agendas)

[Ghazi]

I am only gonna address serious inquiries in this thread. The ignorant rednecks talking about this "virgin nonsense" just arent bringing anything to the table. At least phyzik is bringing up Quranic verses

[Will Hunting]

Sup big ghaz, how's everything going?

[Ghazi]

The word Jihad means struggle. We all have a personal struggle in our lives to find peace of mind and happiness. This is our "Jihad". It is not a word that means kill non-believers.

[Ghazi]

Sup big ghaz, how's everything going?

Not bad, just being a Muslim now no more dope games