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    Not that you're wrong, but I LOL at the thought of Mexico being "politically stable." It would seem the drug cartels run that country. I consider what representation the Mexicans have a clever facade to keep the USA off their backs.
    Basically it's the mordita culture of Mexico politics. It's top to bottom and inside/out. The cartels are just the latest buyers and not as civilized about it. With them it's literally a choice of La Mordita or Muerto.

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    When a Chavez type eventually gets elected in Mexico you will finally see the US start really giving a about Mexico.

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    Thats why immigration reform has been passed. Thats why drug laws have been evaluated.

    Yeah no.

    I'm sure you care a lot about what they may say but their actions speak a lot louder than words and all I hear is silence.

    You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
    "Yeah no?" Now you are saying we have not passed any laws on immigration and drugs or we have not evaluated the ones we have.

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    There has been plenty of changes to our policies/laws on immigration and drugs. I just want to know why you don't care about mexicans?

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    There has been plenty of changes to our policies/laws on immigration and drugs.
    Of the top of your head, what have been the major ones in the past ten years?

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    Its funny cause he's trying to be Chump Dumper but he's too stupid to pull it off.

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    Are you kidding? The US may talk but they really don't care about Mexico as long as they are politically stable and a pseudo democracy.
    Agreed.

    The problem, as the OP points out, that the corrosion of the drug cartels threatens both the former and the latter.

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    In any event, for this to happen you'd have to believe the US actually gave a about what happens to the Mexicans. That is pretty ing LOLable if you ask me.
    Well, demographics favor the US "give-a- -ness" for what happens to Mexico. With a larger and larger % of the population being descended from Mexicans that is.

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    @ debate meaning . Its a ing circle jerk for idiots like you. And yeah, the US cares so much it passed immigration reform and had a serious discussion on the results of its drug policy there.

    You're right about one of our posts being really ing laughable though.
    Why do you get off on calling everyone with a different political viewpoint from you an idiot? You sound like Rush Limbaugh on crack!

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    Its funny cause he's trying to be Chump Dumper but he's too stupid to pull it off.
    Look, in all seriousness you made a ridiculous claim, you are spinning around, calling me names and you are saying I'm trying to act like a hero of yours. I think in 3-4 years I asked a bag a question twice and now I am the chumpster. Sorry, a stupid chumpster. Too funny!!!!!

    You pulled a Alan Grayson. You know the stupid liberal that spewed off "republicans want you to die" bull . You went along with that theme and said the "US doesn't care about mexicans." It's such a ridiculous statement that I had to chime in on.

    You ignore that the US government has been giving money, aid and food to Mexico for decades, centuries even. Or you just throw that under we give free to Mexico because it helps our politics only bull . By the way, I can't think of anything the Mexican government has done for us in all these years. Atleast something worth a damn. The president of Mexico did speak before our congress to reprimand us on our immigration policies/laws a few months back. That was very gracious of him considering his people are fleeing his country because they "suck it." Fact is, we are a caring country and there are alot of times we help our neighbors and others because we can.

    Our government is fighting Arizona on a very similiar federal law that was passed over the summer in hopes to help protect the illegal mexicans from being deported. Son, you may want to think this is just a political agenda and it is for some but for many americans, mexican americans they are doing this because they care.

    If there is something you want to tell us about mexicans so that we don't care, my ears are wide open. But to think our people, our government as a whole does not care about mexicans is pretty much a top 10 dumbest thing I have heard from someone not trolling.
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    Look, in all seriousness you made a ridiculous claim, you are spinning around, calling me names and you are saying I'm trying to act like a hero of yours. I think in 3-4 years I asked a bag a question twice and now I am the chumpster. Sorry, a stupid chumpster. Too funny!!!!!

    You pulled a Alan Grayson. You know the stupid liberal that spewed off "republicans want you to die" bull . You went along with that theme and said the "US doesn't care about mexicans." It's such a ridiculous statement that I had to chime in on.

    You ignore that the US government has been giving money, aid and food to Mexico for decades, centuries even. Or you just throw that under we give free to Mexico because it helps our politics only bull . By the way, I can't think of anything the Mexican government has done for us in all these years. Atleast something worth a damn. The president of Mexico did speak before our congress to reprimand us on our immigration policies/laws a few months back. That was very gracious of him considering his people are fleeing his country because they "suck it." Fact is, we are a caring country and there are alot of times we help our neighbors and others because we can.

    Our government is fighting Arizona on a very similiar federal law that was passed over the summer in hopes to help protect the illegal mexicans from being deported. Son, you may want to think this is just a political agenda and it is for some but for many americans, mexican americans they are doing this because they care.

    If there is something you want to tell us about mexicans so that we don't care, my ears are wide open. But to think our people, our government as a whole does not care about mexicans is pretty much a top 10 dumbest thing I have heard from someone not trolling.

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    Why do you get off on calling everyone with a different political viewpoint from you an idiot? You sound like Rush Limbaugh on crack!
    Oh please don't even try to pull that . People on here have a different viewpoint from me and I engage them without calling them idiots. But when people pose idiotic ideas like invading northern Mexico as solutions are generally idiots.

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    Oh please don't even try to pull that . People on here have a different viewpoint from me and I engage them without calling them idiots. But when people pose idiotic ideas like invading northern Mexico as solutions are generally idiots.
    Idiot.

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    Look, in all seriousness you made a ridiculous claim, you are spinning around, calling me names and you are saying I'm trying to act like a hero of yours. I think in 3-4 years I asked a bag a question twice and now I am the chumpster. Sorry, a stupid chumpster. Too funny!!!!!

    You pulled a Alan Grayson. You know the stupid liberal that spewed off "republicans want you to die" bull . You went along with that theme and said the "US doesn't care about mexicans." It's such a ridiculous statement that I had to chime in on.

    You ignore that the US government has been giving money, aid and food to Mexico for decades, centuries even. Or you just throw that under we give free to Mexico because it helps our politics only bull . By the way, I can't think of anything the Mexican government has done for us in all these years. Atleast something worth a damn. The president of Mexico did speak before our congress to reprimand us on our immigration policies/laws a few months back. That was very gracious of him considering his people are fleeing his country because they "suck it." Fact is, we are a caring country and there are alot of times we help our neighbors and others because we can.

    Our government is fighting Arizona on a very similiar federal law that was passed over the summer in hopes to help protect the illegal mexicans from being deported. Son, you may want to think this is just a political agenda and it is for some but for many americans, mexican americans they are doing this because they care.

    If there is something you want to tell us about mexicans so that we don't care, my ears are wide open. But to think our people, our government as a whole does not care about mexicans is pretty much a top 10 dumbest thing I have heard from someone not trolling.
    Dude, if you're going to go back centuries then we can easily go back to the Mexican American war. That really showed how much the US cares about Mexicans.

    Everything any US politician does tied to Mexicans or Illegal Immigrants in this country is directly tied to short term political gain and nothing more. The Arizona law is a direct example of this. That law solves absolutely nothing in the long run and in fact places a greater burden on governments in Arizona yet it was passed in order to gain short term political points by tapping into the sentiment that illegal immigrants are actually a leading cause of hardship during a recession in this country.

    Its the same with any legislation that seeks to give a facade of action against illegal immigration. Ignorant mfers across the country buy into it and sound like a South Park Episode (THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!). The fact that you actually think this shows some type of goodwill to those very people is amazing.

    The very fact that you can't name any single piece of major legislation passed recently that actually benefits the people of Mexico when I can name thousands which hurts them and pushes them further into the drug war is all the damn proof I need that the United States Government doesn't give a about Mexicans.

    And if you're stupid enough to think I was talking about minority action groups or political groups who's aims are directly focused on improving conditions for Mexicans then you're far more of an idiot than I ever gave you credit for.

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    Yeah somehow I can engage you without calling you an idiot even though we disagree on a lot. Then again, Teysha, I don't recall you ever saying we should invade Mexico. I reserve the right to call you an idiot if you ever make such a claim.

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    Yeah somehow I can engage you without calling you an idiot even though we disagree on a lot. Then again, Teysha, I don't recall you ever saying we should invade Mexico. I reserve the right to call you an idiot if you ever make such a claim.
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    and the only solution is to mobilize and militarize our southern border.
    Hmmmm...well, I don't know about 'the biggest' threat. In the big pichur Russia and China are worthy opponents.

    It's funny, my sister just found a bunch of books that my grandfather had. One a history book with some newspaper articles from 1913 about Mexico. You may find this hard to believe .....but nothing has changed. Corrupt then. Corrupt now. Mexico could have been a great country. It's a shame.

    My grandfather and his sister were both born in Mexico and spoke fluent spanish, even though they were both 100% irish. They were there because my GG grandfather owned part of a silver mine down there. Then, they threw all the foreigners out. He had tons of books about Mexican history. Plan to read some of 'em. My sister just found them a coule of weeks ago. Just unpacked them three days ago. Amazing stuff. The dust flies off when you turn a page. The problem is, they are soooo fragile reading them would damage them. Also got a set called 'Complete History of the World' published in 1893. A complete set of Mark Twains work, 11 books, printed in 1902. Bunch of other stuff. Complete works of O'Henry..You'd have to see it to believe it. 185 books in all. Most of it in sets. I have some handwritten letters from Santa Ana to the US Sec of state as well. How he got them, I don't know. I called UT Austin to see if they were interested. I told them I would donate them.
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