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what does this even mean
I disagree on the doctor issue from the frame of reference that YGWHi gives it, making it an excuse, making them seem incompetent. No way.
I see it as someone who is getting bad news medically looking for anyone that they hope can help. I do believe the injury was a trigger in all this. Obviously it didn't have to be. His uncle and people influenced him to make sure to exploit that rift for all it was worth. There were other factors and the shut hit the fan and got really ugly, but I simply don't believe the injury was fake.
More excuses. Wanted to get paid for doing nothing, that's why he was dumped.
Interesting the dinner was including Murray. Helps explain how Murray (publicly at least) has seemingly started taking more of a leadership/ownership of the team role. And, probably why Spurs were ok with letting TP walk.
Oh, he'll be back next week, rehab's going great!
Just when people talk about Spurs's doctors and wrong diagnosis, they use Patty's shoulder injury and Kawhi's hand injury cases.
Kawhi did finally locate a competent medical professional who prescribed work-free paychecks.
We already know they made mistake before, Kawhi wasn't the first nor the only Spurs' player that got a second medical opinion before...But there is a difference saying they aren't infallible and they're incompetent. I never said that.
Murray is Pop's new favorite.
Is he taking any new patients?
Is it really so hard to believe that he doctor shopped? Dude didn't want to play for legit or unlegit reasons and he found a doctor who would agree, not really that hard to believe. I personally think he was of course injured and then at some point he heeled but by that point he said the spurs because uncle Dennis told him he deserves more of everything, money, fame, respect.
Exactly, there wasn't any wincing, limping or laboring during the highlights I've seen from last season.
I think at some point he was injured and needed a second opinion, but then it became something else (a smokescreen to leave the Spurs for home) entirely.
He and his group just handled it in the worst way possible and threw the medical staff, Pop and his teammates (especially Tony and Manu) under the bus.
Lmaooo....That T-shirt is f'ing amazing
You are also over looking all the reports that have come out that said the spurs were trying to protect Kawhi all season. They didnt want to throw him under the bus. That could be because they were trying to protect him or could be bc they didnt want his value to drop to where it got.
Either way that would 100% explain why PATFO said the things they said. Also explains why they begged them to announce that Kawhi would be out the entire season.
There have also been reports that Kawhi sought a second opinion all the way back in his 2nd season when he had an injury and that it is actually fairly routine for guys to do that. Which then brings up the question if that is routine and hes done it before why all the sudden would he not trust the spurs doctors and feel the need to go see 6 or 7 different ones?
Let's also not forget the reports that the spurs feel the riff began with the China trip when they couldnt even get in touch with him.
Was there an injury? Yes. Did the injury cause all of this? No.
There had plans to get out of SA the entire time. They tried a power play and screwed it up. The full story will eventually come out but there is a lot of info that points to hold out here.
I can can confirm it was 6, wife of the first one, Margareth, just experienced early menopause and daughter of the second, Tricia, one just got twins.
Here are the full names of the six docs :
1. Dr Shut
2. Dr the
3. Dr
4. Dr up
5. Dr Sauce
6. Dr Clown
You feel better after posting that? Hope you do.
Part of the story will play out over the ensuing year.
Will kawitter go to the Lakers for a discounted deal compared to what he’d get elsewhere?
Will kawitter go to the Clips for more money and his own legacy?
Can Toronto convince him to stay?
Are latest rumors true that kawitter wants to build a super team in Brooklyn no doubt with uncle Festus having a piece of the pie?
We’ve heard a lot of rumors out of kawitter’s group. His actions to me will show how much of the past year was dishonest BS. Personally I don’t believe a word of anything kawitter or his group have said. He goes out last season with a sprained ankle and mysteriously after that develops a hamstring injury that makes him a cripple. wtf is that?
We know Kawhi's doctors were treating him since August and he still missed an entire year of his prime. We still don't know where he's at physically since he hasn't offered any real explanation and has been "close" to 100% for 6 months. This is not about a misdiagnosis. It's about a player that didn't want to be in SA anymore. Whether that is his uncle poisoning him on the Spurs, I don't know. What I do know is that Kawhi is a grown man and he's ultimately responsible for his actions. He chose to misinform the Spurs on his progress and return. He decided to go to China and not keep the Spurs in the loop. He enabled his uncle to manufacture a rift in the relationship. He decided not to support his teammates during the playoffs. None of his actions showed at any time that he wanted to continue to be a Spur, period.
At the end of the day, he wanted out and used these ancillary issues through his leaks in the media to provide the rational to leave an organization that has treated him like family. I think if he handled it like a man and played out his contract, I would have had a lot more respect for him. Nevertheless, I think any rational person can see that this is not about an injury. Further, I think Kawhi will eventually regret his decision. The grass isn't always greener as other players have found out. He may be the top dog now but let's see his team's loyalty as he ages. Time will tell how both parties will fair but I put my money on the Spurs coming out on top.
the plan is when he was in china to have spurs security guards which he ditched
which is not smart
I wonder if at anytime the Spurs considered broaching all this with the league office. I know there has been talk about not sitting out your contract year and losing your free agency.
Although knowing the Spurs that wouldn't be how they have ever operated.
This is all so confusing and will probably continue to be until he plays for someone. The thing that really puzzles me is that on the one hand we get stories from the Kwahi camp that the Spurs didn't believe he was injured and wanted him to play per their doctors. And we are to believe that made him mad enough to turn to dreams of playing in LA and sit out the season without supporting his teammates?
OK, but if the Spurs wanted to put him on the unable to perform list per the new reports why wouldn't he have been happy with that?. So he worked the NYC doctors until he found one who would back him up but he wouldn't release those medical reports? Why? Supposedly Because he wanted to deny he was seriously injured so he could go elsewhere with a big contract?
Do any of these contrary arguments make any sense at all to anyone? One thing for sure, this is going to affect the Spurs going forward in signing talent. I can hear the mantra now, "Man, if a brotha don't feel like they treated him right after he won a championship for them and was DPOY and an All Star, then why do I want to go there?"
This is only an isolated case, it's not like the didn't took care with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. Spurs is still respected in the league. Big names not signing with the Spurs it's because it's in San Antonio not because on how they treated their players. The negative impact on the trade is more on Toronto rather than San Antonio, heck some of them probably blaming Kawhi and his camp.
Hey dingus, how is it knitter is playing like Superman, steps on Zaza’s and comes back a couple of months later with a near fatal hamstring booboo? Did uncle Festus go all Tonya Harding on him?
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