Atlanta Hawks 2025 Draft Pick Watch

[poopbox]

Yeah, if we lose these next 7 games before the trade deadline, then I think one of CP3 or Tre should be moved and Blake should get heavy backup PG minutes the rest of the year. Picking up Blake and Bran's options just to sit them on the end of the bench is puzzling

Always assumed their options were picked up for no other reason to have their salary for trade. Sitting them at the end of the bench is one of the main reasons we win around half our games this year. Both are bottom 20 players in the league.

[CGD]

Yeah, if we lose these next 7 games before the trade deadline, then I think one of CP3 or Tre should be moved and Blake should get heavy backup PG minutes the rest of the year. Picking up Blake and Bran's options just to sit them on the end of the bench is puzzling

I think it’s the LaRavia issue. Had one of those two over performed somehow, they are hamstrung in there ability to move them for value and/or extend them later.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Can't just look at the record, things are developing in a different way than expected.

Most wins are on the back of Wemby's ridiculous carry jobs and MVP level play.
Spurs have looked horrible ever since his level of play dropped.

CP3 has been better than expected, but him being the second best player on the team is worrying.

Champagnie is the only young player other than obviously Wemby who has exceeded expectations.
Castle is showing a lot of promise, but we expected it. His shot is as bad as advertised, everything else looks solid.

Devin has been showing signs of life as of late, but is still a big injury concern and every single advanced stat points to him being one of those tank commander, empty stats scorers.
Keldon is beyond hope, simply has to be traded before the next season starts.
Tre is a good guy, but not a serious NBA point guard due to his combination of physical disadvantages and lack of range.
We knew Collins would be horrible, but he's managed to be even worse than that.
Jeremy had a solid start, but reverted back into last season form and has caught another injury.
Bassey is a solid third stringer and Barnes is a solid vet.

TL;DR
Wemby is exceeding expectations and it would be a huge disservice to him if we don't have a roster capable of aiming for 50 wins next season.
Issue being that we don't have a single other reliable piece on the roster. And you can't deny it.
Who except for two veterans and Champagnie (in like 8th man role) would be a consistent contributor for playoff teams?

Whoever watches other teams on regular basis knows how far behind we are and lack of movement is beyond concerning.
I fully expect you to go on a rant about us being ungrateful, impatient, spoiled manchildren and how everything is going according to plan, but you simply won't change our opinion on the ongoing catastrophe we call PATFO.

Manu says we should be aiming for le contention in 3 years but we have a LOT of work to do

[mo7888]

That and Philly needs to make the play-in. Still think ATL can make it to 7, but then fails to make it to playoffs (which in turn makes their pick a second lotto ticket).

I think they finish 9th and lose one of the play-in games.

[scott]

I think it’s the LaRavia issue. Had one of those two over performed somehow, they are hamstrung in there ability to move them for value and/or extend them later.

Great call out, didn't even think of that.

[montgod]

Always assumed their options were picked up for no other reason to have their salary for trade. Sitting them at the end of the bench is one of the main reasons we win around half our games this year. Both are bottom 20 players in the league.

Yeah I agree. I think Spurs picked up option to give them another chance and cause they were cheap. It's evident and clearer now who won't be in the plans in the future so Spurs should be looking at trade options heavily to clear out the roster and add talent for now or later, or help another team out for short term cap space in exchange for draft capital. If you can get anything in exchange for HB, Blake, Bran, Keldon (for the right deal though) and/or Collins, Spurs gotta pull the trigger. CP could be in this discussion as well, but feel Spurs would have the convo with him first to see what he'd want to do - you know the old Spurs way.

[Sugus]

At this point I'm pretty convinced we're not going to do anything (or be sellers if anything). It's not my favorite path, but I am getting the feeling the Spurs will choose to build organically through the draft. Hoping our scouting department is on the top of their game.

Wow, really? I have the exact opposite gut feeling, lol.


I think a bigger-than-we-think trade is coming much sooner than later. I don't believe that the people at the FO are nearly as "dumb" or slow as people around here make them out to be, and it's beyond obvious that they've got solid gold in their hands with Wemby.

Especially after a win like yesterday - it's clear to see that the team is a major piece away from reaching a whole 'nother ceiling.

The fact that people like Manu, Tony, Timmy etc stay extremely close to the franchise and Pop - who is out here calling CP3 after every game - is extremely reassuring to me. What do you think they're all talking about, after last game, between each other and to the Spurs' staff?


I'm tempted to start a prediction post tbh...

[scott]

Wow, really? I have the exact opposite gut feeling, lol.


I think a bigger-than-we-think trade is coming much sooner than later. I don't believe that the people at the FO are nearly as "dumb" or slow as people around here make them out to be, and it's beyond obvious that they've got solid gold in their hands with Wemby.

Especially after a win like yesterday - it's clear to see that the team is a major piece away from reaching a whole 'nother ceiling.

The fact that people like Manu, Tony, Timmy etc stay extremely close to the franchise and Pop - who is out here calling CP3 after every game - is extremely reassuring to me. What do you think they're all talking about, after last game, between each other and to the Spurs' staff?


I'm tempted to start a prediction post tbh...

By "sooner than later" do you mean by the trade deadline? Because that was the context of my post that you quoted (and to be clear, I'm not trying to beef with you over semantics or who-said-what, I'm just looking for clarification on what you are thinking).

I just don't know what "bigger-than-we-think" options are really out there between now and the deadline, certainly not ones that make sense for the Spurs and the patient approach they've been preaching. I look forward to reading some of your thoughts and predictions!

For the record, something along the lines of Coby White or Jonas Valanciunas or even Aaron Nesmith would be bigger than I think at this point. Certainly moving to the realm of John Collins would be way bigger than I think, and that's not to mention the Ingram/Butler/Zion/Lavine list of options.

I definitely agree with you that we are one major piece away from reaching a next level. I just don't think we'll be doing that before the deadline. The offseason, my expectation is that we will be doing that and if we don't I'll be extremely disappointed.

Looking forward to your prediction thread!

[DAF86]

Wow, really? I have the exact opposite gut feeling, lol.


I think a bigger-than-we-think trade is coming much sooner than later. I don't believe that the people at the FO are nearly as "dumb" or slow as people around here make them out to be, and it's beyond obvious that they've got solid gold in their hands with Wemby.

Especially after a win like yesterday - it's clear to see that the team is a major piece away from reaching a whole 'nother ceiling.

The fact that people like Manu, Tony, Timmy etc stay extremely close to the franchise and Pop - who is out here calling CP3 after every game - is extremely reassuring to me. What do you think they're all talking about, after last game, between each other and to the Spurs' staff?


I'm tempted to start a prediction post tbh...

I really don't see it, tbh. Can you provide an example of what a "bigger-than-we-think" trade would be?

[rascal]

Spurs still looking to the 25 draft and not going to make a major impact trade.

Spurs like the current core roster and will continue to ride on that train.

[Splits]

Yeah I agree. I think Spurs picked up option to give them another chance and cause they were cheap. It's evident and clearer now who won't be in the plans in the future so Spurs should be looking at trade options heavily to clear out the roster and add talent for now or later, or help another team out for short term cap space in exchange for draft capital. If you can get anything in exchange for HB, Blake, Bran, Keldon (for the right deal though) and/or Collins, Spurs gotta pull the trigger. CP could be in this discussion as well, but feel Spurs would have the convo with him first to see what he'd want to do - you know the old Spurs way.

rookie scale options are almost always picked up, 50 were exercised and only 7 rejected this season, or 12%

[BackHome]

One thing I have noticed is Tre plays almost entire games he is easily averaging 38 minutes a game I think the last game he played 40 minutes.

[CorrectCrusader]

I'm not sure what stars are available right now that we would really want.

[Mal]

It is not a top 10 pick yet were halfway through the season. Victor would ask for a trade if we don't win 5 straight. Does a top 10 pick matter with no Victor?

So you trade top 10 pick, to win 5 more games in season, that does not matter ? And where is this Victor asking for trade coming from ? He is constatly remanding, he is not taking shortcuts.

[Sugus]

I really don't see it, tbh. Can you provide an example of what a "bigger-than-we-think" trade would be?

Sending out Vassell for Lavine, for example. Not that I want it but that's the kind of "upgrade" I can see the team going for, especially at a perceived lower cost.

I'd like one that sends out multiple players, but those are rarer.

[Sugus]

By "sooner than later" do you mean by the trade deadline? Because that was the context of my post that you quoted (and to be clear, I'm not trying to beef with you over semantics or who-said-what, I'm just looking for clarification on what you are thinking).

I just don't know what "bigger-than-we-think" options are really out there between now and the deadline, certainly not ones that make sense for the Spurs and the patient approach they've been preaching. I look forward to reading some of your thoughts and predictions!

For the record, something along the lines of Coby White or Jonas Valanciunas or even Aaron Nesmith would be bigger than I think at this point. Certainly moving to the realm of John Collins would be way bigger than I think, and that's not to mention the Ingram/Butler/Zion/Lavine list of options.

I definitely agree with you that we are one major piece away from reaching a next level. I just don't think we'll be doing that before the deadline. The offseason, my expectation is that we will be doing that and if we don't I'll be extremely disappointed.

Looking forward to your prediction thread!

Ah, no, sorry, I wasn't replying in context. Yeah I meant the off-season, I had understood you meant a quiet off-season.

No, I don't see much happening at the deadline in general. Maybe Spurs help facilitate a Butler trade but that's about all I imagine. But I definitely feel change coming after this season is done.

Yeah, no disagreements there and I'd love a Valanciunas or Coby White on the team. For some reason I keep thinking of a Vassell - Lavine trade, and I see the Bulls going for it if offered. Beyond that, anything that revamps the bench is a sight for sore eyes.


I fear starting a prediction thread and jinxing it tbh I'm not much of a reverse-jinxer either, I'll leave it to a bolder poster...

[spursparker9]

Raptors leading by 9 in the 4Q....better don't choke

[Strategic]

Hawks crashing hard tonight going for 4th loss in a row.

[mudyez]

Great night for our draft odds.

[Mr. Body]

Risacher held that team together.

[cutewizard]

Go down Hawks

Continue your slide

[onechance87]

fck u atl

[dn0774]

Wonder what the expected timeline on Jalen Johnson and Deandre Hunter are to return from injury. If they miss extended time this could get really interesting.

[scott]

Maybe we'll catch a break and Atl will completely implode

[BackHome]

Bufkin out for the remaining season