Spurs: DUNCAN: THE ULTIMATE FOUNDATION by Jack McCallum

[Killakobe81]

Kobe4life

he is not always funny but that post was ...

[lefty]

he is not always funny but that post was ...

Kobe4life doesnt have to be funny in order to be worshiped, but even when he isn't funny he is funny

[Killakobe81]

Kobe4life doesnt have to be funny in order to be worshiped, but even when he isn't funny he is funny

Fair enough but I love the "work-out line" Duncan doesnt workout because never hear about it is pure genius ...and could come from LG, easily.

[Killakobe81]

God is better than Duncan for a bunch of reasons. 1 he is a better leader since he's more vocal. 2 he scores a lot more points per game than Duncan. 3 He has better footwork than Duncan. 4 He has a greater killers instincts than Duncan. 5. He has overcome more adversity than Duncan has ever had to deal with. 6. His work ethic is better than Duncan since I hear all the time about Kobe working out during the summer but never about Duncan. 7. God has a better post up game. 8 God is more feared than Duncan. 9 God is more clutch than Duncan. 10. God is a better passer than Duncan. 11 God gets more endorsements than Duncan because he's simply a better player.

that line is pure genius ...

[ambchang]

As a man, Amb I stand by what I said. In the context of my post it made sense. If played by Bosh 1 on 1 in the post duncan would DESTROY Bosh. Do you have any problem with the premise of that statement? Duncan even at his advanced age is an amazing post player especially against undersized guys that can handle his core strength. agree or disagree? Or did you go just hunting through my posts to find when I used the word destroy since I had ruffled your tail feathers?
Do you see the proper way to use the word? I know you probably felt all proud pounding your pecs (or breasts) good find .... but it makes more sense for me to use than your case ... Duncan doesnt destroy Kobe's Legacy, come on now. Even if you feel it's not close ...re-examine what you wrote. How can another player being great or greater destroy someone's legacy? That premise alone is faulty. But yes an argument can be destroyed ... as could Bosh be in the post by duncan.

As for Captain "Save em" CN, in the words of Jay "for all you other cats throwing shots at Killa ... you only get half a bar ... yall niccas"

No no no, you didn't have an issue with the way I used the word destroy, you had an issue with the word itself. No need to backpedal now.

5. Kobe's flaws are obvious but not everyone is obsessed like you are ... but at least now you admitted something. Since he is overrated by some ...you feel the need to underrate him and DESTROY him (such a feminine word btw. It should be masculine but women are fond using the word for dramatic effect. I think it was Chris Rock who riffed on his wife telling him her problems ...oh crap I found it ... Click here >>>>Bigger & blacker

And to reiterate, I never set out to "destroy" Kobe's legacy, I said Duncan's legacy destroyed that of Kobe in comparison, much like now Duncan will likely destroy Bosh 1 on 1 in the block.

[Killakobe81]

No no no, you didn't have an issue with the way I used the word destroy, you had an issue with the word itself. No need to backpedal now.



And to reiterate, I never set out to "destroy" Kobe's legacy, I said Duncan's legacy destroyed that of Kobe in comparison, much like now Duncan will likely destroy Bosh 1 on 1 in the block.

Not backpedaling ...read what I wrote, "used for dramatic effect" which you did ...heck, even I did. I just feel it fit more in my case but it's fine ... Like I said you "won". In fact in so many ways.
1. You again derailed a thread that talked about Duncan in fact I was arguing Jordan and you switched the main focus to Duncan over Kobe.
2. Tried to blame me for it since I mentioned him ( a classic Amb move)
3. and when I concede (for all to see) Duncan is greater ... you try to get in this long drawn out debate with me on why it's not close.
4. I said something that hurt your feelings, sorry Amb. (2nd apology).
5. But I will not agree with you that it's not close. Duncan has the edge and it's not as close as it was a year ago but I aint co-signing the destroying bull- . You can write 10 more pages wont matter because like I said wont debate until after they retire.
6. But you are even sexier to me now, than you were two days ago, sweet cheeks!

[ambchang]

Of course you could not stop here. Im starting to wonder if you have a crush on me since you dropping hints you are feamale ... Sorry I am married and I dont like drama ...but you are intelligent. IF I ever am single again I will send you a pm I find intelligent females sexy.

There is another jump in logic, and I notice that you tend to do this quite often.

Hinting on the gender of a person is far from expressing interest. This type of thinking got your idol Kobe in trouble in Colorado.

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This type of thinking got your idol Kobe in trouble in Colorado.

You've nary room. Your Neal raped & pillaged as well. Don't give it a second thought though, the girl was no account, just temporarily in the way.

[ambchang]

Not backpedaling ...read what I wrote, "used for dramatic effect" which you did ...heck, even I did. I just feel it fit more in my case but it's fine ... Like I said you "won". In fact in so many ways.

When was the word used for dramatic effect and when wasn't it? Was Bosh getting destroyed not for dramatic effect? What's really goiing to happen, Duncan posts Bosh up and Bosh falls down in pieces like the guy in Prometheus?

1. You again derailed a thread that talked about Duncan in fact I was arguing Jordan and you switched the main focus to Duncan over Kobe.

You derailed the thread, you introduced the Kobe element, and we kept arguing Jordan.

2. Tried to blame me for it since I mentioned him ( a classic Amb move)

You did mention him, he would have been left out of the conversation if you didn't mention him to begin with.

3. and when I concede (for all to see) Duncan is greater ... you try to get in this long drawn out debate with me on why it's not close.

Why would you concede? You didn't want to discuss it. And when a Kobe lifer like you would concede the point, it's clear that it wasn't close to begin with.

4. I said something that hurt your feelings, sorry Amb. (2nd apology).

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[QUOTE=Killakobe81;7551107]5. But I will not agree with you that it's not close. Duncan has the edge and it's not as close as it was a year ago but I aint co-signing the destroying bull- . You can write 10 more pages wont matter because like I said wont debate until after they retire.

Given that there are no arguments for Kobe, yeah, his legacy was destroyed by Duncan.

6. But you are even sexier to me now, than you were two days ago, sweet cheeks!

Thank you.

[Killakobe81]

[QUOTE=ambchang;7551144]When was the word used for dramatic effect and when wasn't it? Was Bosh getting destroyed not for dramatic effect? What's really goiing to happen, Duncan posts Bosh up and Bosh falls down in pieces like the guy in Prometheus?

You derailed the thread, you introduced the Kobe element, and we kept arguing Jordan.



You did mention him, he would have been left out of the conversation if you didn't mention him to begin with.



Why would you concede? You didn't want to discuss it. And when a Kobe lifer like you would concede the point, it's clear that it wasn't close to begin with.



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5. But I will not agree with you that it's not close. Duncan has the edge and it's not as close as it was a year ago but I aint co-signing the destroying bull- . You can write 10 more pages wont matter because like I said wont debate until after they retire.

Given that there are no arguments for Kobe, yeah, his legacy was destroyed by Duncan.



Thank you.

I'm gonna stop here Amb, because I learned a long time ago if you dont stop a argument with a woman she never will.
IF Duncan over Kobe is not enough for you ... I was never man enough to satisfy you in the first place ..like it or not though after all this we are

[Killakobe81]

Are you kidding me? You brought the entire Kobe vs Duncan thing out of thin air and now you are accusin me of Kobe hate? Gimme a break man.

I have stated my case multiple times and there's no point in me rehashing them, but I would want to point out how you would say rings matter on one hand, and yet say Kobe narrowed the gap from 05 to 07 while Duncan won two rings during that period and Kobe played in two playoff series. I just can't even imagine a scenario where this could be argued from your stand point with any level of consistency.

As for MJ, I'd pick Duncan, Kareem, and maybe bird and magic over him to build a team. As a player though, MJ is tough to top.

Really, sweetheart?

[ambchang]

I'm gonna stop here Amb, because I learned a long time ago if you dont stop a argument with a woman she never will.
IF Duncan over Kobe is not enough for you ... I was never man enough to satisfy you in the first place ..like it or not though after all this we are

Duncan over Kobe is pretty much widely accepted now, but my point is it wasn't because of the 2014 championship. My issue doesn't have much to Kobe, come to think of it, but the narrowmindedness of over valuing team accomplishments in evaluating an individual.

Really, sweetheart?

Not for that point. Duncan > Kobe is an easy case to make, and I felt like I am taking advantage of you.

[Killakobe81]

Duncan over Kobe is pretty much widely accepted now, but my point is it wasn't because of the 2014 championship. My issue doesn't have much to Kobe, come to think of it, but the narrowmindedness of over valuing team accomplishments in evaluating an individual.



Not for that point. Duncan > Kobe is an easy case to make, and I felt like I am taking advantage of you.

[UZER]

Troof bomb.

That's why the Pistons didn't shake hands with them in 91.
Before that season started, MJ and Phil ed to the NBA about their physical play.

Did the Celtics or Lakers whined to the league when they used to play them?
No, they responded on the court. Magic hit Isiah, Parrish punched the out of Laimbeer, Bird squared off with the same Laimbeer, etc...

Phil was the master of all whiners. Sad thing is, everyone gets called a for whining, yet Phil is given a "Zen Master" nickname for doing the exact same .

I'll never forget his crying about Brickowskis goon tactics when he had the goon of all goons Rodman on his team.

And the media let him get away with it.

[daslicer]

Phil was the master of all whiners. Sad thing is, everyone gets called a for whining, yet Phil is given a "Zen Master" nickname for doing the exact same .

I'll never forget his crying about Brickowskis goon tactics when he had the goon of all goons Rodman on his team.

And the media let him get away with it.

Phil's whining shtick was annoying but I found it more annoying when he talked about a player or a team and if you responded he was given credit by the media for playing "mind games". The media made Phil into this Teflon character.

[UZER]

Phil's whining shtick was annoying but I found it more annoying when he talked about a player or a team and if you responded he was given credit by the media for playing "mind games". The media made Phil into this Teflon character.

Exactly my point.

[Killakobe81]

Exactly my point.

You guys are both correct. Phil was a genius manager of egos and a good leader of men. But also an asshole who has been outcoached numerous times. Disrespected Jerry West and takes far too much credit for his team's success. he laso was at least 1/3rd responsible for the Shaqobe feud.

[ambchang]

You seem happy, female.