2024 NBA Draft Thread

[exstatic]

Theres zero chance SA is going to give ATL a pick back simply to move up from 4. Now, if ATL wants to trade pick 1 outright for one of their picks back? Ok. But not 4+ATL pick just to move up 3 spots. Dont care who is saying that, it’s not going to happen.

Only way ATL gets a pick(s) back from SA is if Trae or Murray are involved

They should never get even one of those picks/swaps back.

[Rosewood]

Atlanta is a nice city - definitely more attractive than a lot of NBA markets. I don't view ATL's future as that grim, but maybe Sarr does. But ATL is a bubble team with no incentive to tank, so they will feel pressure to make the playoffs this year (realistic or not), and I read this as Sarr doesn't want that kind of pressure his rookie year... which is some weak ass if that is the case.

I read it the same way and it’s got to be poorly worded… there’s no way Sarr is putting it out there that he doesn’t want to go to Atlanta because they are pushing for playoff success and that’s too stressful that would be unheard of for a top prospect.

[spurraider21]

Dream scenario: Sarr, Clingan and Buzelis go 1, 2 and 3. Spurs select Risacher with 4 and one of Sheppard/Castle falls to 8.

risacher/sheppard is my top combo, followed by risacher/dillingham, then sheppard/castle (im assuming holland is not part of the equation for the spurs)

i dont like combos where castle is defaulted at PG tbh

[DAF86]

thought it was bertans but risacher was the chosen one after all!

We're talking Cade Cunningham.

[baseline bum]

Dream scenario: Sarr, Clingan and Buzelis go 1, 2 and 3. Spurs select Risacher with 4 and one of Sheppard/Castle falls to 8.

My dream is yours with the top 4 then move Keldon+8 to Detroit for 5 so they can take Castle #5. Can't imagine either of Castle or Sheppard falling to 8. Sheppard seems like a no-brainer for Detroit at 5 and Castle for Charlotte at 6 on that draft board.

[CGD]

I think we should watch Detroit pretty closely. The firing of Williams today signifies a sort of sea shift into the Langdon time frame. I wouldn't be surprised if Cade gets moved next week. It could shake things up.

Definitely have been keeping tabs on the PG situation there and all the shake up, but as much as I want Cade I think he’s still viewed as their foundation piece. BUT they have a big decision on him with his extension soon, so that’s another thing to watch for.

[DAF86]

My dream is yours with the top 4 then move Keldon+8 to Detroit for 5 so they can take Castle #5. Can't imagine either of Castle or Sheppard falling to 8. Sheppard seems like a no-brainer for Detroit at 5 and Castle for Charlotte at 6 on that draft board.

I don't see Detroit giving up 5 for Keldon, tbh.

[spurraider21]

We're talking Cade Cunningham.

ah, my bad. when bb said "tops out as a good starter" in the draft thread i assumed it was about risacher

[Uriel]

Combining intel from this latest ESPN mock and the previous one and reading between the lines, the Spurs’ big board appears to be:

1. Risacher
2. Sheppard
3. Castle
4. Dillingham
5. Knecht
6. Williams
7. Salaun
8. Topic

There’s no mention of Sarr, Clingan, and Buzelis so it’s unclear what the Spurs’ level of interest is in them. Carter and Walter were mentioned, but it’s also unclear where they would rank on this list.

[spurraider21]

My dream is yours with the top 4 then move Keldon+8 to Detroit for 5 so they can take Castle #5. Can't imagine either of Castle or Sheppard falling to 8. Sheppard seems like a no-brainer for Detroit at 5 and Castle for Charlotte at 6 on that draft board.

moving up to wind up with riscaher + sheppard

[CGD]

My dream is yours with the top 4 then move Keldon+8 to Detroit for 5 so they can take Castle #5. Can't imagine either of Castle or Sheppard falling to 8. Sheppard seems like a no-brainer for Detroit at 5 and Castle for Charlotte at 6 on that draft board.

Adding Keldon to trade up 3 spots is a massive overpay, but giving CHA their pick back, and maybe 35, should do it.

[baseline bum]

ah, my bad. when bb said "tops out as a good starter" in the draft thread i assumed it was about risacher

Applies to Zacharrie too.

I can't help but see UNC Harrison Barnes in Risacher. Good shooter, good defender, suspect handles, no playmaking. Hopefully hits the high end of his projection as opposed to Barnes who never ended up the player he looked like he could become at UNC.

[exstatic]

Yeah, it makes no sense. I would jump at that opportunity on a second, though. Give them 4, 8, Keldon and whatever else they want.

He’s kind of proven that he isn’t even a floor raiser, let alone a ceiling raiser. I wouldn’t give him away, but a nice pick, or two meh picks should get the job done.

[baseline bum]

Adding Keldon to trade up 3 spots is a massive overpay, but giving CHA their pick back, and maybe 35, should do it.

I don't understand this at all. Why would Charlotte care so much about getting three second round picks?

[exstatic]

I see him as a future all-star, tbh.

You’d be in a very small group.

[DAF86]

He’s kind of proven that he isn’t even a floor raiser, let alone a ceiling raiser. I wouldn’t give him away, but a nice pick, or two meh picks should get the job done.

Same could be said of Wemby this season. A 6'6" point guard with all-star potential is PATFO's wet dream. I think it's worth it, tbh.

[exstatic]

Dream scenario: Sarr, Clingan and Buzelis go 1, 2 and 3. Spurs select Risacher with 4 and one of Sheppard/Castle falls to 8.

Never happens, for several reasons. NBA teams are really sour on Ignite players, having seen the duds. Buzelis has very few avenues to be picked in the top 4. In addition, if he were, there’s no way that Sheppard or Castle lasts to #8.

[exstatic]

Same could be said of Wemby this season. A 6'6" point guard with all-star potential is PATFO's wet dream. I think it's worth it, tbh.

Man, I’m going to bookmark this for after Wemby, year 3, which is where Cade is now.

[spurraider21]

Applies to Zacharrie too.

I can't help but see UNC Harrison Barnes in Risacher. Good shooter, good defender, suspect handles, no playmaking. Hopefully hits the high end of his projection as opposed to Barnes who never ended up the player he looked like he could become at UNC.

i agree that i dont really see all star in risacher. he just seems like a fairly sure thing to be a good starter who plays a vital role for good teams. might not be a "defend the other team's best player and shut him down" type, but he's a willing and capable defender who knows how to play a complementary role on offense without just hiding in the corner with his hands out waiting for the ball. his ballhandling right now is quite weak, and is the area he needs to improve the most. because from what ive seen out of him, he's actually a solid passer. he just doesnt have the means to create passing avenues which take advantage of that ability. if he makes that improvement to unlock just enough secondary playmaking, i think you wind up with something between MPJ and Batum, which particularly in this draft, id take in a heartbeat

[DAF86]

You’d be in a very small group.

23, 7.5, 4.5 at 22 ing years old. How would I be in the minority thinking that guy can be an all-star?

Either way, no reason to keep arguing it because there is no way in the Pistons are trading their franchise player.

"In the minority" GTFOH

[DAF86]

Man, I’m going to bookmark this for after Wemby, year 3, which is where Cade is now.

And I'm gonna bookmark your ass when Cade inevitably makes the all-star in the not so distant future. For real son, you sound like stretch when he said Kawhi would never be more than a Shane Battier type player.

[tonight...you]

I really hate that HOU landed in front of SA. Kind of annoying that despite pick 3 and 4 not being much different value wise that it was HOU in front of SA here which may prevent Reed from getting to SA

I smirk at the irony of this.
Imagine Rockets fans' frustration with San Antonio's landing site in the Draft last year when they even won the coin toss.

This year is nothing in comparison.

[baseline bum]

And I'm gonna bookmark your ass when Cade inevitably makes the all-star in the not so distant future. For real son, you sound like stretch when he said Kawhi would never be more than a Shane Battier type player.

C'mon man, mentioning Cade in the same breath with Victor and Kawhi?

[DAF86]

C'mon man, mentioning Cade in the same breath with Victor and Kawhi?

Cade's so clearly on an all-star path that I'm baffled by your comments, bros. I don't even think I was saying anything controversial, tbh.

[SpursBills]

Cade realistically has about the same value as Vassell +/- a mid-late first rounder tbh. If he gets maxed he might have less value. Similar size, similar wingspan, trade Vassell's better defense for Cade's ability to handle a larger offensive load. Impact metrics at the same age about the same as well.