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    Lol what i just countered your post are u dumb. Im one of th people who believes that we need a agood green to win but youre saying as if we can win without a healthy team and youre doubting kawhi? I expect more optimism from a poster who thought parker is top 25 player this season
    I'm not doubting about kawhi, I never said we can win without a healthy team

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    I'm not doubting about kawhi, I never said we can win without a healthy team
    Your post suggests as if being healthy isnt a given to win a championship.

    You also said you disagreed with nono when he talked about health

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    I think Brazil was being totally serious when he said we could win with a D-Leaguer at SG.

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    Your post suggests as if being healthy isnt a given to win a championship.

    You also said you disagreed with nono when he talked about health
    I disagree on the fact that this team is fine and With good odds of winning a le with this version of Danny

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    I disagree on the fact that this team is fine and With good odds of winning a le with this version of Danny
    Wow way to back out of your argument. Before you said we could win with a D-league player at SG and now you say this. Stop being a pussy and stand up for your real arguments.


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    DG needs to pretend he is Robert Horry, chillin behind the three point line just waiting to be hero....maybe with a tail in hand.

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    Player G MP PTS TRB AST STL BLK TOV FG% 3P% FT%

    8 Danny Green ↑ 10 22.7 7.7 2.9 1.1 0.7 0.9 0.7 .475 .447 1.000

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    DeMarco Murray syndrome tbh

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    Here's one obvious issue with Green's shot. He's taking his first couple as spot ups and then if he hits one he's shooting on the fly in transition without setting his feet. He's not that kind of shooter. That's Steph Curry , not Danny Green . He'll hit a few but he's best when he spots up. He rushes his shot, his release is medium speed, not fast like some other shooters.

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    But damn is he playing some great on ball D plus rebounding.

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    But damn is he playing some great on ball D plus rebounding.
    Which is why Pop has him out there.

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    I agree with the contention that the margin is smaller. But I'd like to see what kind of defensive work we do on the Warriors... I have no expectations of shutting down Curry, but I want to see how much we can reduce everyone else's impact.

    IMO, a series against them would be more of a defensive grind than an offensive showdown. At least, I think that's how the Spurs would rather play them.
    Right, but what would cons ute a defensive grind against that team, particularly on the road, would be holding them to something in the low 100's.

    As I've said ad nauseam, this team, on the road, against .500 or better teams, in the past near season and a half, has struggled mightily offensively. Having another high percentage, volume three-point shooting wing, is the type of player that could swing a game like that and ultimately the series, given how close it's likely to be.

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    Right, but what would cons ute a defensive grind against that team, particularly on the road, would be holding them to something in the low 100's.
    More like the low 90s, IMO. Cleveland held them to 89, which is rare, but low-mid 90s I think we can compete.

    As I've said ad nauseam, this team, on the road, against .500 or better teams, in the past near season and a half, has struggled mightily offensively. Having another high percentage, volume three-point shooting wing, is the type of player that could swing a game like that and ultimately the series, given how close it's likely to be.
    We're averaging a bit over 98 ppg on the road against teams over .500 this season. Only a 6 game sample (record is 3-3), but it's further skewed by the fact that our offense was fairly sluggish when the season started (we broke 100pts in only 6 of the first 19 games we played, 4 of those 6 games came during that span and the record was 2-2). In the next 19 games that followed, we scored 100+ in 17 of them. Our road record this season is substantially better (62%) than last season (54%) so far.

    Now this can be attributed to a lot of things, like the West sucking more, strength of schedule, etc, but overall I think we've taken advantage of whatever it is.

    We talked about the extra shooter before, I respect your take on that, I just don't see minutes for him on this team, especially in the playoffs. I think we're going to ride Danny, Manu, Patty, Bobo and Kawhi for 3 point shooting, and hopefully they'll knock it down.

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    More like the low 90s, IMO. Cleveland held them to 89, which is rare, but low-mid 90s I think we can compete.



    We're averaging a bit over 98 ppg on the road against teams over .500 this season. Only a 6 game sample (record is 3-3), but it's further skewed by the fact that our offense was fairly sluggish when the season started (we broke 100pts in only 6 of the first 19 games we played, 4 of those 6 games came during that span and the record was 2-2). In the next 19 games that followed, we scored 100+ in 17 of them. Our road record this season is substantially better (62%) than last season (54%) so far.

    Now this can be attributed to a lot of things, like the West sucking more, strength of schedule, etc, but overall I think we've taken advantage of whatever it is.

    We talked about the extra shooter before, I respect your take on that, I just don't see minutes for him on this team, especially in the playoffs. I think we're going to ride Danny, Manu, Patty, Bobo and Kawhi for 3 point shooting, and hopefully they'll knock it down.
    In a one off, it's possible, but it's unlikely anyone holds them to that, on the road, especially in a game the magnitude of a Conference Finals one.

    Average is one thing; what's the three-point percentage and overall efficiency and what were they last season?

    I agree, there is no move coming, at least insofar as the rotation. But I don't see an argument for how there wouldn't be minutes, considering the lack of a proven fourth wing.

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    Right, but what would cons ute a defensive grind against that team, particularly on the road, would be holding them to something in the low 100's.

    As I've said ad nauseam, this team, on the road, against .500 or better teams, in the past near season and a half, has struggled mightily offensively. Having another high percentage, volume three-point shooting wing, is the type of player that could swing a game like that and ultimately the series, given how close it's likely to be.
    Actually I disagree specially lately. I think Simmons pushing the pace in transition has given the team a lot of easy looks and gotten him to the line. The way Kawhi is shooting the 3 he should get all clutch shot opportunities.

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    In a one off, it's possible, but it's unlikely anyone holds them to that, on the road, especially in a game the magnitude of a Conference Finals one.

    Average is one thing; what's the three-point percentage and overall efficiency and what were they last season?

    I agree, there is no move coming, at least insofar as the rotation. But I don't see an argument for how there wouldn't be minutes, considering the lack of a proven fourth wing.
    I think during the playoffs, the game slows down. I know they'll try to to speed it up, but we've done a good job of controlling the tempo in general. I'm not saying they're not going to go off here or there, but if the Spurs want to win, I think that's a sensible target, and we're going to have to continue being the top defense in the NBA when the time comes if we want to pull it off.

    As far as 3 point shooting, I don't have splits at hand for 3P% and against over .500 teams, but what I think it's notable is: we're actually shooting a bit better this season (38.4%) vs last season (36.7%), but what I also find more notable is that we're on pace to shoot quite a few less 3 pointers this season (717 so far, 18.9/game) vs last season (1847, 22.5/game), which I think points to our change of philosophy in going more inside where we are bigger. These are all regular season numbers, and as usual, have to be taken with a grain of salt. Pop likes to change his strategy much more against specific matchups in the playoffs.

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    I think during the playoffs, the game slows down. I know they'll try to to speed it up, but we've done a good job of controlling the tempo in general. I'm not saying they're not going to go off here or there, but if the Spurs want to win, I think that's a sensible target, and we're going to have to continue being the top defense in the NBA when the time comes if we want to pull it off.

    As far as 3 point shooting, I don't have splits at hand for 3P% and against over .500 teams, but what I think it's notable is: we're actually shooting a bit better this season (38.4%) vs last season (36.7%), but what I also find more notable is that we're on pace to shoot quite a few less 3 pointers this season (717 so far, 18.9/game) vs last season (1847, 22.5/game), which I think points to our change of philosophy in going more inside where we are bigger. These are all regular season numbers, and as usual, have to be taken with a grain of salt. Pop likes to change his strategy much more against specific matchups in the playoffs.
    "We're" also not going to be able to win this series, if it's a constant struggle offensively, on the road.

    It's not a change of philosophy, so much as it's the reality of the personnel.

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    BOttom line, Danny is no longer in the slump he started at. He has to shoot without hesitation when he's got space to do it and if he doesn't keep it simple. I think we nee Danny at his usual an have stated that from th beginning. I was starting to get alarmed that he had continued more off than on for such a long time but he's been better. 4th wing will see spot minutes, more if he is impactful, less if he's nit.

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    was it 05 when Bones started the pre-season and season with 3Gs something like 5 for 60?

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    I'm more concerned with a bit of slippage on the defensive end. It was more than made up with the relative explosion on offense lately, but I think that's really where we need to hang our hat on in the long run this season.

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    BOttom line, Danny is no longer in the slump he started at. He has to shoot without hesitation when he's got space to do it and if he doesn't keep it simple. I think we nee Danny at his usual an have stated that from th beginning. I was starting to get alarmed that he had continued more off than on for such a long time but he's been better. 4th wing will see spot minutes, more if he is impactful, less if he's nit.
    In a series as close as this one is likely to be (if/when, of course), the margins matter.

    Even though they went on to lose the series, Neal shooting out of his mind from 3 in game 3 of the '13 Finals, mattered. Belinelli hitting that momentum halting three, after the Heat had significantly slashed the lead in game 3 of the '14 Finals, mattered.

    Do you honestly trust Simmons/Anderson to be that guy in '16?

    I'm more concerned with a bit of slippage on the defensive end. It was more than made up with the relative explosion on offense lately, but I think that's really where we need to hang our hat on in the long run this season.
    It's happened recently and it was inevitable. They'll probably remain number one throughout though.

    Lack of volume three-point shooting is the biggest concern.

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    In a series as close as this one is likely to be (if/when, of course), the margins matter.

    Even though they went on to lose the series, Neal shooting out of his mind from 3 in game 3 of the '13 Finals, mattered. Belinelli hitting that momentum halting three, after the Heat had significantly slashed the lead in game 3 of the '14 Finals, mattered.

    Do you honestly trust Simmons/Anderson to be that guy in '16?



    It's happened recently and it was inevitable. They'll probably remain number one throughout though.

    Lack of volume three-point shooting is the biggest concern.
    The team just plays different and looks to score differently. We are no longer spacing the court four out all the time and when they do its Diaw. Bonner hasn't really played real minutes but Pop keeps him playing garbage time so he's ready. I wouldn't trust even Butler to take a 3. He's been streaky. If we need that shot it should be Kawhi. For minutes, it will be matchups. Both wings can score and generate their looks differently. Simmons has been aggresive cutting and can shoot a 3. Maybe teams don't go on runs and you don't need to get in a shootout with a Neal and Marco type.
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    I'm happy to see there are some threads left where people actually talk ball tbh...

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    After some good games, this game against Nets was pretty bad in particular offensively... 0 pt 1 reb 1 stl 1 tov but at least 3 assits in 19 mn is he played ok defense but man I'd like this slump be over by now tbh

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    After some good games, this game against Nets was pretty bad in particular offensively... 0 pt 1 reb 1 stl 1 tov but at least 3 assits in 19 mn is he played ok defense but man I'd like this slump be over by now tbh
    We will see against cavs, danny has played well relatively on hyped up games this season.

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