Romney will be the GOP nominee

[spursncowboys]

lol

[RandomGuy]

You don't really believe that, do you? You're trolling, right? Have you paid no attention to how much the right hates that sucker? David Duke would rally the base against him.

I don't underestimate how irrationally hostile the right is to Obama.

I go by what I see based on what right-wing commentators say about Romney, as well as what I see here.

I do genuinely believe it, yes, although I do keep an open mind about whether the slobbering hatred will overcome the apathy/antipathy about Romney.

[RandomGuy]

But your opinion means nothing since you aren't going to vote for a republican in the primaries. So my original point stands. You are as worthless as a democratic strategist giving republicans advice or analyzing them.

My advice:

Vote Cain... Vote Cain... Vote Cain...




MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[101A]

Expect to see right wing nutbag radio and Fox "news" ratchet up the crazy in an attempt to get the base out to the polls for the Guy Who Isn't Obama.

Don't worry; BO has some carrying water for him, as well:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...sponsible.html

[101A]

I don't underestimate how irrationally hostile the right is to Obama.

I go by what I see based on what right-wing commentators say about Romney, as well as what I see here.

I do genuinely believe it, yes, although I do keep an open mind about whether the slobbering hatred will overcome the apathy/antipathy about Romney.

I'm should start a thread en led "George Bush was, in all, a pretty good president"

I guarantee you the hatred for GWB from the left at least reaches that of the right for BHO - it is the atmosphere of this country. Ironically, the ACTUAL policies passed by either administration are indistinguishable. If you put a timeline of laws passed, and left out the switch in administrations, an observer would be hard pressed to point to when there was SUCH a dramatic changeover! Think about it! The left hates this guy; the right hates the other - but in ACTUAL practice, there is virtually NO difference. Foreign policy, domestic policy - WHERE is the big difference, other than in rhetoric? Got off on this tangent in another thread, but I am still amazed by it; we are getting played.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm should start a thread en led "George Bush was, in all, a pretty good president"

I guarantee you the hatred for GWB from the left at least reaches that of the right for BHO - it is the atmosphere of this country. Ironically, the ACTUAL policies passed by either administration are indistinguishable. If you put a timeline of laws passed, and left out the switch in administrations, an observer would be hard pressed to point to when there was SUCH a dramatic changeover! Think about it! The left hates this guy; the right hates the other - but in ACTUAL practice, there is virtually NO difference. Foreign policy, domestic policy - WHERE is the big difference, other than in rhetoric? Got off on this tangent in another thread, but I am still amazed by it; we are getting played.

I think the big difference is in cabinet appointments and executive orders. There is a huge difference there...telling ICE not to deport aliens, the clear anti-gun drift of the justice department, The attack on states rights, EPA declaring C02 a pollutant, etc.

It is in the actions and oversight of the Executive branch that the President can have a substantive impact.

[boutons_deux]

"actions and oversight of the Executive branch"

yep

allowing 9/11 to happen, then using it to grab Iraq's oil

lying to start and botch 2 wars while cutting taxes for the corps and wealthy

privatizing govt student loans

Medicare Part D

Medicare Advantage

not stopping predatory mortgage lending

firing a US Attorney for jailing a Repug crook

[CosmicCowboy]

"actions and oversight of the Executive branch"

yep

allowing 9/11 to happen, then using it to grab Iraq's oil

lying to start and botch 2 wars while cutting taxes for the corps and wealthy

privatizing govt student loans

Medicare Part D

Medicare Advantage

not stopping predatory mortgage lending

firing a US Attorney for jailing a Repug crook

Do you actually believe all the you spew? Where is all that Iraqi oil we grabbed?

[boutons_deux]

Whether the US/UK oilcos got the oil they targeted, and they certainly didn't get it under the type of ruinous contract they proposed, is beside the point. In early 2003, Saddam was excluding US and UK from oil negotiations, while preferring France, Russia, and China.

US is getting oil from Iraq, where there was none

http://38.96.246.204/pub/oil_gas/pet...nt/import.html

now GFY

[Winehole23]

I guarantee you the hatred for GWB from the left at least reaches that of the right for BHO - it is the atmosphere of this country. Ironically, the ACTUAL policies passed by either administration are indistinguishable. If you put a timeline of laws passed, and left out the switch in administrations, an observer would be hard pressed to point to when there was SUCH a dramatic changeover! Think about it! The left hates this guy; the right hates the other - but in ACTUAL practice, there is virtually NO difference. Foreign policy, domestic policy - WHERE is the big difference, other than in rhetoric? Got off on this tangent in another thread, but I am still amazed by it; we are getting played.

More continuity than change. Meet the new boss, etc.

[Winehole23]

There is a huge difference there...telling ICE not to deport aliens

However this may be, deportations have hit all time highs under Obama.

[101A]

I think the big difference is in cabinet appointments and executive orders. There is a huge difference there...telling ICE not to deport aliens, the clear anti-gun drift of the justice department, The attack on states rights, EPA declaring C02 a pollutant, etc.

It is in the actions and oversight of the Executive branch that the President can have a substantive impact.

This is a good point; but in the overall scheme of things, how much do those policies ACTUALLY make a difference in any of our day to day lives? They piss people off one way or the other - but don't, ultimately, amount to much.

[101A]

However this may be, deportations have hit all time highs under Obama.

Shocked, I'm SHOCKED!

[Wild Cobra]

However this may be, deportations have hit all time highs under Obama.

Could that be because of more border agents, more money, etc. put in place from legislation the former president signed?

I really don't know, but if I recall, legislation changes were made in the last administration.

[Winehole23]

Really, you don't know.

[Wild Cobra]

Really, you don't know.

My memory over the issue during the last administration is imperfect. I know some changes were made though. Wasn't the border patrol more than doubled?

[Winehole23]

Dunno. Why don't you go look it up?

[boutons_deux]

Do Your Own Research
--WC

[Wild Cobra]

Dunno. Why don't you go look it up?

I know something was done, I'm just pissed every time Obama gets credit for something he didn't do, like the pullout of troops by years end.

I know something was done during the last administration, and I don't recall anything being done during this administration that would cause this.

I have too many other things to do, and I'm just making the point so people can decide themselves, instead of instantly believing something said. Not that important to me right now except to keep that on others minds.

[Wild Cobra]

Do Your Own Research
--WC

Throw that back all you want. I'm not making a big stink over it, so chill.

[Winehole23]

I know something was done, I'm just pissed every time Obama gets credit for something he didn't do, like the pullout of troops by years end.

I know something was done during the last administration, and I don't recall anything being done during this administration that would cause this.

Political will? The desire to appear tuff?

I have too many other things to do, and I'm just making the point so people can decide themselves, instead of instantly believing something said.

You've been posting constantly for the last half hour, questioning the bias and accuracy of other posters mainly, but you have too little time to back up your own PFA assertions. Telling.

Not that important to me right now except to keep that on others minds.

You hope your dimly recalled, unsubstantiated assertion will prompt others to give Bush credit for Obama's numbers.

Good luck.

[hater]

Ginghrich is gaining

Hater with the goods

[hater]

Sorry but Romney is done. He's peaked.

[RandomGuy]

However this may be, deportations have hit all time highs under Obama.

Including it would seem American teenagers who got caught up in a sweep and deported without any real appeal to Columbia

[Winehole23]

http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/R...5BB5F330B.html