***** The Official 2014 Avante Football Thread *****

[Aztecfan03]

This seems to have been ignored....

From the SB thread....


To expect a third year QB to beat Belichick/Brady in ...THE BIG GAME...is simply not realistic. Look at the difference there in big game experience, it's overwelming in favor of NE. Now add a banged up Sherman/Thomas and all those stupid penalties.

I will be playing $$$$$$ the Pats in this "spot".


I did have the Pats but decided to not call it in, I did that root for one team and play another in the NCAA le game, it sucked!

But ZOMG. He's like the best like third year QB of like all-time.

[Avante]

But ZOMG. He's like the best like third year QB of like all-time.

I'll go slow...


Kid wins Texas state in 10.32, which is a great time for a high school kid. All those Big12 teams want him, so he ends up at TCU (the best sprint school in Texas) there he has a great career, winning the NCAA twice, he leaves TCU will a 10.06 PR. Next stop the HSI and pro track.

While a 10.06 is a solid time, the pros are running 9.75. These guys are 27-30 not 22, and at 22 they were also around 10.06.

Let me guess, ya don't get it.

RW has done things never seen before for somebody with his lack of experience. His first three seasns have been the best we have ever seen..but...we can't compare him or any other third year QB to seasoned vets like Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees. But what we can do is look at where RW is at the same stage of careers, if we do that RW is ahead of everyone.

When we see the dummies running the guy down that just shows how much they don't understand about the game. Yep, ignorant!

[Aztecfan03]

Eli Manning beat an in his prime seasoned vet Brady in his 4th year. But it's not realistic for the best 3rd-year QB ever to beat an aging seasoned vet Brady?

also Wilson beating seasoned vet Peyton last year...

[Avante]

Eli Manning beat an in his prime seasoned vet Brady in his 4th year. But it's not realistic for the best 3rd-year QB ever to beat an aging seasoned vet Brady?

First off it took Eli four years not three and lets not get silly, it took a couple.."are you kidding me?" ..throws.

Go ahead take a few minutes and Google Eli vs RW career stats, check out those first three seasons. First off RW hasn't missed a game since he'd been there. He never sat behind some vet, he simply took off and won more games than anyone in history.

[Aztecfan03]

First off it took Eli four years not three and lets not get silly, it took a couple.."are you kidding me?" ..throws.

Go ahead take a few minutes and Google Eli vs RW career stats, check out those first three seasons. First off RW hasn't missed a game since he'd been there. He never sat behind some vet, he simply took off and won more games than anyone in history.

I said 4 years. And that fact that Eli sucks is part of my point.

[Avante]

I said 4 years. And that fact that Eli sucks is part of my point.

I'm not one of those who totally ignores perspective like the rookies we see here.

Everyone has forgotten about the Arizona Cardinals. If Palmer and their back don't go down they would have been the NFC team to beat, not the Seahawks. And I don't act stupid over .."a"...play. I look at how things really are. The Seahawks run Lynch RW is histories only two time winning QB in his first three seasons. And at his age, he will be back.

no Eli Manning doesn't suck, you don't do what he;s done and suck. Dude....BODY OF WORK...ok?

Mike Tyson is one of tHe fight games legends, a Hall of Famer, Buster Douglas ain't , but who won when they fought?

BODY OF WORK!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

First off it took Eli four years not three and lets not get silly, it took a couple.."are you kidding me?" ..throws.

Meanwhile, Struggle makes "are you kidding me?" throws for all the wrong reasons. For example: "Are you kidding me? He can't even complete a one-yard pass with the championship on the line?"

[Avante]

Meanwhile, Struggle makes "are you kidding me?" throws for all the wrong reasons. For example: "Are you kidding me? He can't even complete a one-yard pass with the championship on the line?"

Dude, I had NE winning the game, ok? And, I never thought RW would be as successful as he's been. I'm actually shocked that he's already doing things nobody has done. Your childish..."one yard"...stuff only shows just how stupid you really are. Did you really think I expected him to win two SB's in just three seasons?

Will you ever grow up, any chance of you yanking your pin head out of your ass?

One more time.

Russell Wilson in just three seasons has already won more SB's than...

Chargers
Dan Fouts
Warren Moon
Bills
Philip Rivers
Dan Marino
Sonny Jurgenson
Lions
Browns
Brian Sipe
Andrew Luck
Jim Kelly
Ken Anderson
Mark Brunell
Tony Romo
Bengals
ans
Colin Kaepernick
RGIII
Vikings
Randall Cunningham
Vinny Testerverde
Boomer Esiason
Jags
Falcons
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas
Jim Zorn
Alex Smith
Eagles
Donovan McNabb
Ron Jaworski

Hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, I had NE winning the game, ok?

Like I said at the time, even you weren't willing to pick your so-called "best third-year quarterback ever, elite QB" to win. That says it all.

And, I never thought RW would be as successful as he's been. I'm actually shocked that he's already doing things nobody has done.

Oh, really? What happened to your old "I predicted Wilson would do great things even before he got drafted" line of bull ? You finally decided to stop lying about that?

[Avante]

Like I said at the time, even you weren't willing to pick your so-called "best third-year quarterback ever, elite QB" to win. That says it all.


Oh, really? What happened to your old "I predicted Wilson would do great things even before he got drafted" line of bull ? You finally decided to stop lying about that?

I'll crawl like a snail........


Russell Wilson is a..................THIRD..................year QB. Let that sink in, ok? You don't seem to get that at all, not that it's a surprise. Right now at this stage of the game he's not ready to beat Belichick/Brady in a big game. But he played a of a lot better than Andrew Luck did, he got crushed!

Going even slower.....

I did talk up RW before the draft. we argued about who would be the better rookie, RW/RGIII/Luck, you really don't remember? And.....being high on someone doesn't mean you expect them to win two SB's in just three seasons. no I didn't see that coming, I thought it would take a lot longer to do what he'd doing. Yep, surprised.

Why you can't see just how special this guy is amazes me, even you can't be that bad at judging talent.

Remember how hard you worked at..."you're not a betting expert"...before it hit you that yes I am, well this is no different, me once again taking your dumbass to school.

Add the NE pick...67-49...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just won't count the $$$ because I never made the call.

[Clipper Nation]

It only took three full seasons for Elite Manning to beat Brady and Belichick in a big game, but three seasons isn't enough for Struggle? Keep piling on those excuses, got.

You did not talk up Struggle before the draft. You talked up Cousins and Luck. I posted the direct links to both of those threads and you're still trying to lie about it.

[Avante]

It only took three full seasons for Elite Manning to beat Brady and Belichick in a big game, but three seasons isn't enough for Struggle? Keep piling on those excuses, got.

You did not talk up Struggle before the draft. You talked up Cousins and Luck. I posted the direct links to both of those threads and you're still trying to lie about it.

Damn you're dumb.

You don't look for exceptions to any rule, you go with %%%%%%%%%% ok stupid? Chances are a third year QB in his second SB is at a disadvantage vs Belichick/Brady. To....well Eli threw two of the most unlikely receptions ever gives RW the edge, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If stupid were illegal, you'd be doing life.

got, we had a huge debate right here about which of the big three (as we called them) would be the best rookie QB. A 19 year old with memory loss????

[Avante]

What does happen to RGIII? I can't believe guys who get paid the big $$$$$ couldn't figure out.....

At Baylor it was "will he run ot pass" so those college defenders were guessing.Without the threat of te run he ain't as we saw. I knew that before he ever took a pro snap. I wouldn't be surprised that by 2017, he's out of football.

[Avante]

I think I'll start taking them down one by one.

Keep in mind no QB has started/won more game in their first three seasons than RW.

Eli Manning vs RW

Comp %

Eli

48.2
52.8
57.7

RW

64.1
63.1
another 63.1

Yep...RW rulz

TD's

Eli 54
RW 72

INT's

Eli 44
RW 26

Yep, RW rulz

Passer rating

Eli

55.4
75.9
77.0

RW

100.0
101.2
95.0
(that is the best it gets)

Yep, RW rulz

Wasn't even close.

Go ahead give me another challenger.

[Clipper Nation]

What does happen to RGIII? I can't believe guys who get paid the big $$$$$ couldn't figure out.....

At Baylor it was "will he run ot pass" so those college defenders were guessing.Without the threat of te run he ain't as we saw. I knew that before he ever took a pro snap. I wouldn't be surprised that by 2017, he's out of football.

You didn't know jack about RG3 before he took a pro snap. In fact, you were riding his during his rookie year:

As of right now if this were a fight they'd pull RGIII off Andre Luck, he's killing him. Not even close!

Luck the 31 ranked QB, WAYYYYYYYYYYYY behind RGIII

RGIII... has "star" written all over him only a blind man wouldn't see that.

It's pathetic that you feel the need to keep lying about your takes in order to pretend you're an "NFL expert."

[Avante]

You didn't know jack about RG3 before he took a pro snap. In fact, you were riding his during his rookie year:







It's pathetic that you feel the need to keep lying about your takes in order to pretend you're an "NFL expert."

I'll go really really slow....


I'm a track fan, remember? You do know that RGIII was a "good" NCAA 400hurdler..right? Little man I was all over RGIII as a freshman at Baylor, so you're wrong yet again.

And if he'd been able to run in the NFL he would be a star. He's too fragile as we are now seeing.

Little man, I told you RW would be special, as you have seen he is. I won over $2100 "here". I took the Pats to win this SB. Can talk about guys nobody here has ever heard of, some in high school right now.

Yep, expert!

What it is is that you don't know and it bugs you that I do. Look at how you act, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funnier than watching your got ass......"damn, he's good!"......over my $$$$$$ plays, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pathetic is you running everything down all the time, dude what really is your ing problem? I bet you while ing. What a miserale little you are, always wahwahwah about something.

[Avante]

You people really do need to start dealing with reality and put things in perspective.

We have a young QB in Russell Wilson who has already done things we've never seen before. What is not to like? Is it because he's black? You do know you do not have to stand tall in the pocket anymore.....right? Are you watching the QB's coming out of the NCAA now?

Russell Wilson is heading towards being a great great QB his potential in unlimited. Don't show your ignorance by acting like a re ed baboon over losing one of two Superbowls, some never even get there.

Never seen so many who know so little about the game as we have here.

I said that no third year QB was beating (how many times have they beaten Luck) the Pats, I did think I was going to be wrong, nay~~~~~~

The reason I keep hammering on this is because we are seeing something really special here and so many of you are acting so stupid about it. I get the.....gotta prove Avante wrong, A MUST!!!!!!!....but that isn't going to work as you are seeing. The guy is as good a young QB as we have seen and if ya knew anything about the game you'd see that.

[Aztecfan03]

You didn't know jack about RG3 before he took a pro snap. In fact, you were riding his during his rookie year:







It's pathetic that you feel the need to keep lying about your takes in order to pretend you're an "NFL expert."

It's like he is a hypocrit about speaking too soon about things.

[Avante]

It's like he is a hypocrit about speaking too soon about things.

We all debated the RGIII/Luck/RW best rookie QB right here. I talked about RW being the chosen one. I talked about RGIII's track exploits and how he wasn't a "world class" sprinter.

I knew about RGIII as a high schooler, being a track freak.

[Aztecfan03]

It's like he is a hypocrit about speaking too soon about things.

[Avante]

It's like he is a hypocrit about speaking too soon about things.

translation

I'll ignore the fact that you were talking about RGIII 's track exploits while at Baylor. I need to act dumb.

[Aztecfan03]

Originally Posted by Avante
As of right now if this were a fight they'd pull RGIII off Andre Luck, he's killing him. Not even close!




Originally Posted by Avante
Luck the 31 ranked QB, WAYYYYYYYYYYYY behind RGIII




Originally Posted by Avante
RGIII... has "star" written all over him only a blind man wouldn't see that.



yep these are track exploits.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by Avante
As of right now if this were a fight they'd pull RGIII off Andre Luck, he's killing him. Not even close!




Originally Posted by Avante
Luck the 31 ranked QB, WAYYYYYYYYYYYY behind RGIII




Originally Posted by Avante
RGIII... has "star" written all over him only a blind man wouldn't see that.



yep these are track exploits.

So you've never read my."RGIII doesn't have World Class speed"....right?

[Avante]

Next season, don't freak out after 6-7 weeks...ok? Don't put too much into "a" game...ok? ing funny watching you guys....TOM BRADY IS DONE....hahaha!!!!!!! When the Seahawks were 3-3, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People, it's a long season, ok? This isn't the NCAA where every game makes or breaks ya, all the pros are trying to do is make the playoffs so we will see the ebb and flo, the less than stellar performance because they are sitting fine vs their division. Which is all that matters.

So keep that in mind next season when one of the power teams is 2-4....ok? This...THEY ARE DONE...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aztecfan03]

Next season, don't freak out after 6-7 weeks...ok? Don't put too much into "a" game...ok? ing funny watching you guys....TOM BRADY IS DONE....hahaha!!!!!!! When the Seahawks were 3-3, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People, it's a long season, ok? This isn't the NCAA where every game makes or breaks ya, all the pros are trying to do is make the playoffs so we will see the ebb and flo, the less than stellar performance because they are sitting fine vs their division. Which is all that matters.

So keep that in mind next season when one of the power teams is 2-4....ok? This...THEY ARE DONE...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

WHy did you put too much into what RG3 did very early on?