Before that, congrats to the Mavs, they deserved it.Esp. to Dirk.
Some comparisons:
2007 Spurs:
-#1 (Mavs) in the West defeated by the #8 (Warriors)
-3rd in the West
-Defeated the so-called "Next MJ" in the Finals
-Both played "D"
2011 Mavs:
-#1 (Spurs) in the West defeated by the #8 (Grizzlies)
-3rd in the West
-Defeated the so-called "Next MJ" in the Finals
-Both played "D"
But honestly, I still like the Road To The Finals of 2011 Mavs because, first, they're playing without Butler who is offensive threat for the Mavs but I think it's look better with Marion but it defends, second is that they defeated the Defending Champs Lakers, swept and lastly, they defeated the most over-hyped team entering to the 2010-2011 NBA Season in the NBA Finals. Congrats again Mavs.
Last edited by NickiRasgo; 06-13-2011 at 06:56 AM.
Wasn't Mike Brown a rookie coach back in 2007 with the cavs? If so that would be another similiarity (Spoelstra being a rookie coach too).
I'll tell ya one key difference though
Rick Carlisle is a much superior coach who also motivates his players as opposed to "It's not my job to motivate, they're professionals" Gregg Popovich
Good thread, btw
Your 4.52 posts per day make this board hard to read.
Mavs had a tougher road
Yeah, agreed with that, Mavs deserves it though I don't even want Mavs to win it all this year.But I think, rooting Dirk is still better than to root the team who said that "It's going to be easy."
the similarities that you mentioned are the ONLY similarities
Mavs starting SF goes down for the season, they win the le.
Grizzlies starting SF goes down for the season, they take out the 1 seed and push OKC to 7.
Someone needs to take a bat to RJ's knee sometime next February.
Spo wasnt a rookie coach. But he was a rookie to the finals if thats what you mean
Wasn’t 2007 the lowest NBA finals rating in the history of the NBA? Come On! This was a great NBA finals…The Mavericks are true champions…Don’t compare the Mavericks to a team of floppers & whiners…
Actually these Finals didn't get the ratings the networks were hoping for. With all the hype the Heat receive I'm also shocked the ratings weren't higher. The Spurs are treated like the ugly stepchild in the media...no wonder their ratings were poor.
How were the ratings bad? Last I heard it set an NBA Finals record for TV ratings?
Lot of similarities
Spurs won with a team 196k over the lux cap over a team
The Mavs win with a team ~ 17 million over
Spurs beat a team built through the draft and trades.
Mavs beat a team that was created through free agency
2007 = Easiest le run in NBA history. 3/4 teams were overrated dog , and the only compe ive series Donaghy put his imprint on.
2011 = One of the hardest finals runs ever
I said the same thing before the Finals started.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180605
I still don't agree. Not to take anything away from the Mavs, but even Terry said that the first round vs the Blazers was their toughest series. The Lakers were literally pushed over and OKC had a pretty physical series with Memphis. The Heat were obviously overhyped, overrated and totally gave up in the 4th of game 6.
One of the "hardest finals run ever" . . . I don't think so. Also, anyone who goes to the Donaghy well to discredit any championship team is bringing a weak take. That's been well established, tbh.
Anything to discredit the Spurs though. Right?!
Nothing comes close to 2007: Denver...one-and-done 5 years in a row. Didn't you play the Iverson Nuggets? crofl...yeah...
Phoenix Suns...A do ented tainted Game 3 (which is how the scandal started), then shady ejections after a dirty Horry play. I love how Spurfans stick their head in the sand on this (the post above). Game 6 2002 WCF was rigged too, but Lakerfans don't hide from it...they take the gift. Spur fans can't face reality in that series.
Utah Jazz in the conference finalsWasn't Deron a rookie? Dallas would've swept them easily, GS did their work for them.
2007 Cleveland Cavaliers: The absolute worst Finals participant since the 70s (maybe even beyond that). The ing Clippers would've beat that team.
San Antonio should thank their lucky stars for Donaghy and the Golden St. Warriors. They won that le for you.
Barring game 5, those were all pretty close games. I don't get the "crofl", tbh. The Nuggets were a legit playoff team. I realize you have a trolling agenda here, but it was a good 3/6 match-up, to be fair.
This one has been discussed ad nauseum, so there is nothing new that will be brought to the table here, but this series was brutal on both teams. Did the Spurs catch a break with the suspensions? Obviously, they did. However, everyone forgets Phoenix actually won that game. The Spurs barely won game 5 and in game 6 Phoenix got Amare & Diaw back in time to push a game 7, but couldn't get it done. Tough series though.
As far as the Donaghy thing goes . . . we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I feel he has been completely and totally discredited. He is a proven liar. You can't lend credence to a portion of his story just because it is convenient for your argument. He has no credibility.
I have to say that the Jazz were the Spurs easiest WC opponent on that run, but you are still talking about a Jerry Sloan coached team with some really good players. The Spurs were just rolling at that point. They had a ton of momentum. The game 3 lapse withstanding.Utah Jazz in the conference finals
The Cavs were overmatched for sure. No argument here. The Spurs did the work to get there though. The '07 Spurs was a great team regardless of their opponent. Trying to discredit that accomplishment just smacks of bitterness and envy. Alluding to an argument that the Mavs would have beat the Spurs had they not been soundly beat in the first round by the Warriors is ludicrous and laughable.
I wouldn't say that this year's Spurs would've beat the Mavs if they hadn't lost to the Grizzlies because it is equally stupid. Just enjoy your championship (I mean let Mavfan enjoy their championship, DD) and let it go. Your agenda is obvious.
Last edited by ohmwrecker; 06-13-2011 at 10:27 PM.
So much bull in a single post, impressive. "We're going to have to agree to disagree." A spurfan refusing to accept the 2007 gift, there's a shocker. I'd have better luck convincing the Jonestown residents not to drink the Kool-Aid then to get "Some" spurfans to accept the truth. Going with the "He's been discredited" angle was another obvious touch. Two words: Jose Canseco...he was a discredited rat, turns out he was right though! You're sticking your head in the sand. Man up and accept the obvious gift.
Trying to sell the Nuggets as a tough matchup just proves that you are a helpless homer. Did Denver win more than 1 game in those 5 straight first round exits? If they did, my bad, I just don't recall. The Iverson Nuggets were an embarrassing mess. FACT.
The Utah Jazz are a "Jerry Sloan coached team blah blah blah." Yeah, the Lakers beat the out them with increasing ease for 3 straight years...and Deron wasn't a rookie, either.
They won, good for them...happy? They had the easiest le run out of any team in the last 2 decades. Only 1/4 opponents was an upper-echelon team and they were put behind the eightball by a ref trying to settle mob debts. Congrats, they still won the games though.
Your credibility is already severely in question for your incessant RJ flag-waving throughout the year. You're a known uber-homer, so your view of things is definitely skewed.
2007 was the weskest playoff run of opponents of their 4 championships, and many spurs fans would tell you, their 4th favor e run. 2005 was hard as .
2003 and 2005 were GREAT playoff runs.
Didn't you say you were a Spurs fan before? Obviously not! Donaghy was in one game there yes where the Spurs got some calls, but he didn't make the bad ones as a video showed! Spurs controlled that game 4 against the SUns, blew their lead though like they would at times! Suns had all back for game 6 and got blown out! Debateable if they would have won or not, period!I see there, kay I agree with you there those runs were GREAT PLAYOFF RUNS! 07 was our easiest by far and our fans least favorite! I forget alot of those playoffs, where as the other two runs you mention I remember ALL OF IT! Those were their KEY RUNS.Nothing comes close to 2007: Denver...one-and-done 5 years in a row. Didn't you play the Iverson Nuggets? crofl...yeah...
Phoenix Suns...A do ented tainted Game 3 (which is how the scandal started), then shady ejections after a dirty Horry play. I love how Spurfans stick their head in the sand on this (the post above). Game 6 2002 WCF was rigged too, but Lakerfans don't hide from it...they take the gift. Spur fans can't face reality in that series.
Utah Jazz in the conference finals
2007 Cleveland Cavaliers: The absolute worst Finals participant since the 70s (maybe even beyond that). The ing Clippers would've beat that team.
San Antonio should thank their lucky stars for Donaghy and the Golden St. Warriors. They won that le for you.
There's no shame in accepting that 2007 was easy as . It was a down year for the NBA. 2007 is remembered for Game 5 ECF and GSW-DAL. Spurs are good in those tweener years (1999, 2007). A le's a le.
btw, Donaghy officiated Game 3, not 4...Game 4 was the Horry play/cheap suspensions game.
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