I didn't know whottt was running for president, lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Nuke Mecca, lolol.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo’s campaign stood by his assertion that bombing holy Muslim sites would serve as a good “deterrent” to prevent Islamic fundamentalists from attacking the United States, his spokeswoman said Friday.

“This shows that we mean business,” said Bay Buchanan, a senior Tancredo adviser. “There’s no more effective deterrent than that. But he is open-minded and willing to embrace other options. This is just a means to deter them from attacking us.”

On Tuesday, Tancredo warned a group of Iowans that another terrorist attack would “cause a worldwide economic collapse.” IowaPolitics.com recorded his comments.

“If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,” Tancredo said. “That is the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they would otherwise do. If I am wrong, fine, tell me, and I would be happy to do something else. But you had better find a deterrent, or you will find an attack.”

Tom Casey, a deputy spokesman for the State Department, told CNN’s Elise Labott that the congressman’s comments were “reprehensible” and “absolutely crazy.” Tancredo was widely criticized in 2005 for making a similar suggestion.

[whottt]

To be fair...I didn't see him mentioning nuking mecca like I have...



As for my stance...if the Catholics had declared us evil and were plotting to blow up our buildings, or dirty nuke our cities...and destroy our country, I'd reccomend nuking the vatican in retalliation as well.


You can't threaten a religious fantatic with his life...you have to threaten something else...and it does work, how do you think all these ty leaders in the ME stay in power inspite of having large populations of fanatical muslims within them...

But you never see their palaces and world trade centers blown up...and it's not because the Islamocfascists hate them less...those leaders just know the right threats to make.

[johnsmith]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75323

dumbass

lol.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

To be fair...I didn't see him mentioning nuking mecca like I have...



As for my stance...if the Catholics had declared us evil and were plotting to blow up our buildings, or dirty nuke our cities...and destroy our country, I'd reccomend nuking the vatican in retalliation as well.


You can't threaten a religious fantatic with his life...you have to threaten something else...and it does work, how do you think all these ty leaders in the ME stay in power inspite of having large populations of fanatical muslims within them...

But you never see their palaces and world trade centers blown up...and it's not because the Islamocfascists hate them less...those leaders just know the right threats to make.

I'm all for nuking the out of our enemies. The only thing is, if we actually did nuke mecca, and all those holy sites, then what? They'll still be muslim and they'll hate us even MORE, only then we wont have any more holy places left to nuke.

[TLWisfoine]

If he wants to do this then fine, because the only rule in war is to win. But if America were to ever do this then I don't want to hear anything about it being the moral compass of the world!!!

[smeagol]

If he wants to do this then fine, because the only rule in war is to win. But if America were to ever do this then I don't want to hear anything about it being the moral compass of the world!!!

That compass has been malfunctioning for a while now.

[whottt]

That compass has been malfunctioning for a while now.

Not that I disagree with you...but who exactly is the moral compass then?


This ought to be good.




I don't care about being the moral compass...I care about my country not being turned into a hole and not cowtowing to bullies.

[whottt]

I'm all for nuking the out of our enemies. The only thing is, if we actually did nuke mecca, and all those holy sites, then what? They'll still be muslim and they'll hate us even MORE, only then we wont have any more holy places left to nuke.

Actually...if we nuke mecca what will be left to worship? Some radioactive glass?


No...it's like sports...success adds bandwaggoners failure sheds them. A big ole American foot up Allah's ass will definitely be considered a failure of that religion by those dealing reality...those that believe in some kind of higher ideals...like that somehow backing down from a fight will gain you more respect from your opponent...will probably continue to disagree.


The Japanese were 1 thousand times more determined, more fierce, and more driven...not just fringe elements...but down to the last man woman and child...


Did bombing the out of them cause them to be more of an enemy?


Did bombing Berling cause them to be more of an enemy?


Does getting your ass kicked ever make you more confident in your next fight?



Never.



You know what hurt Americas prestige more than anything else in history?


IT's not that we guzzle gas and love fast food...


It's that we lost Vietnam...that was when he lost esteem world wide...not because it was a bad war...but because we lost it.

Just like Nazis lost esteem when they lost WWII.


No one respects a surrender...never...it never makes people like you more.



If someone punches you in the face, then when you get ready to retaliate they drop to their knees and beg you not to hurt them...

Do you respect that person more?





As for all the sane muslims that you think might suddenly become radical fantatics...

Um...if these guys were willing to fight and die they wouldn't have minority religious extremists and fascist dictators ruling them...and they wouldn't have had Islam stuck up their ass by the Ottomans in the first place.




If the Spurs decide to tank and never win a le because they think Tim Donaghy unfairly awarded them a le...would that increase their respect around the league? Would you respect them more?



No...once a war has begun, you must win it...and you simply can't be afraid.

Losing wars destroys a country more than anything else.

[whottt]

Again...if these guys were so bad ass, how come they were all terrified of Saddam?

Saddam butt ed the Shias routinely...Sunni Saudi Arabia was terrified of him......

Do you think it bothered them less to be massacred by Saddam? He wasn't a Muslim...he was a Socialist.


It's not the dog that barks a lot and sounds viscious that scares me, take a step toward that dog and they'll take a step backward....it's the one that just stares at me daring me to move that scares the out of me....it's the one that I know will try to rip my throat out that scares me...

[TLWisfoine]

Did bombing the out of them cause them to be more of an enemy?

Japan and terrorists are a different animal alltogether.

Actually...if we nuke mecca what will be left to worship? Some radioactive glass?

If there's one thing that will unite all the Sunni and Shia together to hate us, it will be doing this!!! Even our Muslim allies will take a huge offense to this.

Losing wars destroys a country more than anything else.

Fighting unnecessary wars do as well. Ask the Romans, and Napolean. This isn't a war against Muslims.

[DarkReign]

Japan and terrorists are a different animal alltogether.



If there's one thing that will unite all the Sunni and Shia together to hate us, it will be doing this!!! Even our Muslim allies will take a huge offense to this.



Fighting unnecessary wars do as well. Ask the Romans, and Napolean. This isn't a war against Muslims.

Be prepared....wait for it.....waaaaaait for it.....

[TLWisfoine]

^^^ The are you talking about.

[DarkReign]

^^^ The are you talking about.

Youll see.

[NorCal510]

I'd vote whottt for president because he wears wristbands to gtg's to absorb the gametime sweats.

[whottt]

Be prepared....wait for it.....waaaaaait for it.....

Eh....I lost all respect for this forum and it's residents long ago. I have zero desire to post in here or to engage in the rampant hysteria and cowardice that masquerades as liberalism in this forum...I don't even read it anymore. This forum is complete and utter biased propagandic garbage as far as I am concerned....

You can have it...


I just came back because a thread had my name in it...and I actually like CBF and didn't want to be rude.





Carry on trying not to make the muslims mad and calling your hysterical fear intellectual discussion...that's the solution.

[smeagol]

Not that I disagree with you...but who exactly is the moral compass then?


This ought to be good.

No country is, that is for sure.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

If the US nuked Mecca, it would be the end of civilized life as you know it. You think the world is pissed at America now? No offense whottt, but the US is not prepared to wage the kind of war that would ensue if you ever pulled something like that. You nuke mecca and you better be prepared for complete and utter isolation from the world because that is what it will take to keep the hordes of maldjusted, insane muslims that are going to be clawing at American's throat.

The only thing you'll accomplish by doing that is pissing off the rest of the muslim world, not just Al-Qaeda.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I made this thread obviously in jest but whottt's viewpoints never cease to interest.

He makes a better point than some in here.

[whottt]

If the US nuked Mecca, it would be the end of civilized life as you know it.

And if America gets nuked it will be the end of civilized life as I know it...I'll be heavily in favor of sharing that feeling.

You think the world is pissed at America now?

I don't care about the rest of the world...the rest of the world is our enemy , jealous of our status and views us a threat. This is the way you view us...Manumanica...even though, I can't think of a damn thing we have done to Argentina...and if we have...oh well, it was probably because you guys were about elect a leader that was going to allow some Russian nukes to be pointed at us.

I already view the rest of the world as hating us...I already view you as celebrating in satisfavtion the day 911 occurred...

This is what I have gleaned from your opinions on this forum. At least at the Nationalistic level. It's never that cold at the personal level.

This is the view I have of muslims:

They are different, they have different values, different loyalties, different goals...

I look at muslim countries and see that they are primarily inhumane holes I'd rather die than live in...I look at the mass emmigrations rates from the holes and the mass immigration ratess of my own country...and conclude one way is in fact much better than the other...and those that don't see that are idiots who I never want to allow to gain an important foothold in my country.

I see...

#1. The type that wan't to destroy through terroristic activities.
#2. The type that want to do it by diplomatic means.


I do not see any of them that value freedom the rights of people of other religions to practice those religions freely and as an equal.

Let me make sure you understand this...

I also view you, as an enemy, in the nationalistic sense. I do not consider you or your country to be an ally or a friend on this subject...I do not consider you to have the best interests of my country at heart.

I view you as someone who resents my country...who does not want to see it suceed...who does not want to see it's people continue to have a high quality of living.

I already view the rest of the world as having a smiliar view.

I already view it as us against the World...and telling me how you are going to hate my country more only convinces me more.

So threaten to not like me all you want...but you convinced me you already don't like me and my country long ago...so therefore your opinion is not one I will ever trust on National Interests.


I view it as...us being the Shaq Kobe Lakers and every team celebrating our loss and rooting for us to break up. I view it as...no one cares about America...but Americans...and not even all Americans do.


This the world view I have...this is the world view I have had since 911. This is the world view I will have the rest of my life most likley in Nationalistic terms.

No offense whottt, but the US is not prepared to wage the kind of war that would ensue if you ever pulled something like that.

The USA is prepared to take the world with it when it goes down...and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The quicker the rest of the world tries to make that happen...the quicker the rest of the world is going to go down with us.

I fully support htis world view...I will die for it...I will willingly get nuked for it.

And I admit...there is a part of me that wonders if I will actually have the resolve to feel this way if an American city gets nuked...

And I conclude it's best to elect the most maniacal leader possible who will collect on that threat...when I vote, in case I should weaken later.

You nuke mecca and you better be prepared for complete and utter isolation from the world because that is what it will take to keep the hordes of maldjusted, insane muslims that are going to be clawing at American's throat.

And they have a backwards culture that has left them at a technological disadvantage...further reason I don't want them getting control of my country or dictating to it in anyway.

IF an Americna city gets nuked...I will be in favor of launching every nuclear war head we have at our disposal at the first person in another country who even thinks of saying we deserved it...

The only thing you'll accomplish by doing that is pissing off the rest of the muslim world, not just Al-Qaeda.

And I don't care...because they are already sworn to our destruction...it was their choice not ours...and the sane muslims need to be policing their own manicas and not America...


And you know what? My view is the majority of Americans...that's why W got elected...and the more people criticize my country and act as if we deserved 911 and should backdown...the more determined I become.


IF an American city gets nuked...it's us that people need to be worrying about being mad.


I really don't think you get the impact 911 had on Americans Manumanica...

[TLWisfoine]

^^^ Wow, you sound crazier than I sometimes do, and that's saying something!!!

[atxrocker]

this will be the only time that i share the same opinion as whottt. well, part of it anyways.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

And if America gets nuked it will be the end of civilized life as I know it...I'll be heavily in favor of sharing that feeling.



I don't care about the rest of the world...the rest of the world is our enemy , jealous of our status and views us a threat. This is the way you view us...Manumanica...even though, I can't think of a damn thing we have done to Argentina...and if we have...oh well, it was probably because you guys were about elect a leader that was going to allow some Russian nukes to be pointed at us.

I already view the rest of the world as hating us...I already view you as celebrating in satisfavtion the day 911 occurred...

This is what I have gleaned from your opinions on this forum. At least at the Nationalistic level. It's never that cold at the personal level.

This is the view I have of muslims:

They are different, they have different values, different loyalties, different goals...

I look at muslim countries and see that they are primarily inhumane holes I'd rather die than live in...I look at the mass emmigrations rates from the holes and the mass immigration ratess of my own country...and conclude one way is in fact much better than the other...and those that don't see that are idiots who I never want to allow to gain an important foothold in my country.

I see...

#1. The type that wan't to destroy through terroristic activities.
#2. The type that want to do it by diplomatic means.


I do not see any of them that value freedom the rights of people of other religions to practice those religions freely and as an equal.

Let me make sure you understand this...

I also view you, as an enemy, in the nationalistic sense. I do not consider you or your country to be an ally or a friend on this subject...I do not consider you to have the best interests of my country at heart.

I view you as someone who resents my country...who does not want to see it suceed...who does not want to see it's people continue to have a high quality of living.

I already view the rest of the world as having a smiliar view.

I already view it as us against the World...and telling me how you are going to hate my country more only convinces me more.

So threaten to not like me all you want...but you convinced me you already don't like me and my country long ago...so therefore your opinion is not one I will ever trust on National Interests.


I view it as...us being the Shaq Kobe Lakers and every team celebrating our loss and rooting for us to break up. I view it as...no one cares about America...but Americans...and not even all Americans do.


This the world view I have...this is the world view I have had since 911. This is the world view I will have the rest of my life most likley in Nationalistic terms.






The USA is prepared to take the world with it when it goes down...and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The quicker the rest of the world tries to make that happen...the quicker the rest of the world is going to go down with us.

I fully support htis world view...I will die for it...I will willingly get nuked for it.

And I admit...there is a part of me that wonders if I will actually have the resolve to feel this way if an American city gets nuked...

And I conclude it's best to elect the most maniacal leader possible who will collect on that threat...when I vote, in case I should weaken later.






And they have a backwards culture that has left them at a technological disadvantage...further reason I don't want them getting control of my country or dictating to it in anyway.

IF an Americna city gets nuked...I will be in favor of launching every nuclear war head we have at our disposal at the first person in another country who even thinks of saying we deserved it...





And I don't care...because they are already sworn to our destruction...it was their choice not ours...and the sane muslims need to be policing their own manicas and not America...


And you know what? My view is the majority of Americans...that's why W got elected...and the more people criticize my country and act as if we deserved 911 and should backdown...the more determined I become.


IF an American city gets nuked...it's us that people need to be worrying about being mad.


I really don't think you get the impact 911 had on Americans Manumanica...

First of all, what's with misspelling my nick bro? Normally I wouldn't think twice about it, but you gone and done it three times, so I gather you're trying to say something.

Second, I don't understand where you get I hate America from ANYTHING I've written. I DISAGREE with a lot of what the US does, but that isn't hate, its having a mind of my own bro. I'm not going to just stand here and sing your praises simply because you're too ing paranoid to be open minded, and take my point of view for what it is, an opinion... not a threat, not a declaration of war, an f'n opinion.

I grew up with Americans, I went from first grade to graduation in an American international school. Some of my best friends are American. I have never, EVER said the US deserved 9-11 nor have I EVER celebrated it, you're talking out of your ass now buddy. So whatever you have "gleaned" from my opinions are clearly a figment of your imagination.

My comment in this thread was not a threat or a diss on the US, although I'm not surprised your paranoid sorry ass interpreted it that way. You say Americans are prepared to take the world down with them, you say Americans are prepared for anything the world can throw at them... fine, but here you are, right smack in the middle of a costly war, with a deathtoll of barely a few thousand (lets face it, nothing compared to previous wars) and already in preparation for retreat.

Sounds to me, American's value peace over war, life over senseless death... How many of your countrymen do you think would be willing to strap themselves to a bomb and go blow themselves for their country? seriously? Don't get me wrong, neither would any civilized person with half a brain, but here in lies my point. The US is too civilized a society to win a war against fanatism. Its just not willing to do what it would take to eradicate it. THIS is a good thing. The US IS the moral compass of the world, without a doubt, and by the bull you've posted up there, obviously not thanks to people like you.

Let me ask you something, do you honestly believe that retaliating with a nuke and killing thousands of innocent people just to get back at a few religious fanatics is the answer? You think that is going to do ANYTHING other than alienate the rest of the world and envigorate terrorism? On top of this, I don't get how me trying to convince people that throwing a NUKE at Mecca would be a bad thing for the US translates into me hating America. (Honestly? I never thought I would see the day I'd have to explain why throwing a nuke is a bad thing...)

Finally, I'd like to point out AGAIN that I have NEVER celebrated 9-11 nor said or even implied that the US deserved it. Don't know where the you got this impression but it pisses me off that you would say a stupid thing like that without corroboration.

[UV Ray]

And if America gets nuked it will be the end of civilized life as I know it...I'll be heavily in favor of sharing that feeling.



I don't care about the rest of the world...the rest of the world is our enemy , jealous of our status and views us a threat. This is the way you view us...Manumanica...even though, I can't think of a damn thing we have done to Argentina...and if we have...oh well, it was probably because you guys were about elect a leader that was going to allow some Russian nukes to be pointed at us.

I already view the rest of the world as hating us...I already view you as celebrating in satisfavtion the day 911 occurred...

This is what I have gleaned from your opinions on this forum. At least at the Nationalistic level. It's never that cold at the personal level.

This is the view I have of muslims:

They are different, they have different values, different loyalties, different goals...

I look at muslim countries and see that they are primarily inhumane holes I'd rather die than live in...I look at the mass emmigrations rates from the holes and the mass immigration ratess of my own country...and conclude one way is in fact much better than the other...and those that don't see that are idiots who I never want to allow to gain an important foothold in my country.

I see...

#1. The type that wan't to destroy through terroristic activities.
#2. The type that want to do it by diplomatic means.


I do not see any of them that value freedom the rights of people of other religions to practice those religions freely and as an equal.

Let me make sure you understand this...

I also view you, as an enemy, in the nationalistic sense. I do not consider you or your country to be an ally or a friend on this subject...I do not consider you to have the best interests of my country at heart.

I view you as someone who resents my country...who does not want to see it suceed...who does not want to see it's people continue to have a high quality of living.

I already view the rest of the world as having a smiliar view.

I already view it as us against the World...and telling me how you are going to hate my country more only convinces me more.

So threaten to not like me all you want...but you convinced me you already don't like me and my country long ago...so therefore your opinion is not one I will ever trust on National Interests.


I view it as...us being the Shaq Kobe Lakers and every team celebrating our loss and rooting for us to break up. I view it as...no one cares about America...but Americans...and not even all Americans do.


This the world view I have...this is the world view I have had since 911. This is the world view I will have the rest of my life most likley in Nationalistic terms.






The USA is prepared to take the world with it when it goes down...and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The quicker the rest of the world tries to make that happen...the quicker the rest of the world is going to go down with us.

I fully support htis world view...I will die for it...I will willingly get nuked for it.

And I admit...there is a part of me that wonders if I will actually have the resolve to feel this way if an American city gets nuked...

And I conclude it's best to elect the most maniacal leader possible who will collect on that threat...when I vote, in case I should weaken later.






And they have a backwards culture that has left them at a technological disadvantage...further reason I don't want them getting control of my country or dictating to it in anyway.

IF an Americna city gets nuked...I will be in favor of launching every nuclear war head we have at our disposal at the first person in another country who even thinks of saying we deserved it...





And I don't care...because they are already sworn to our destruction...it was their choice not ours...and the sane muslims need to be policing their own manicas and not America...


And you know what? My view is the majority of Americans...that's why W got elected...and the more people criticize my country and act as if we deserved 911 and should backdown...the more determined I become.


IF an American city gets nuked...it's us that people need to be worrying about being mad.


I really don't think you get the impact 911 had on Americans Manumanica...

I can't figure out which one you are...Gen. Buck Turgidson or Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

...I will die for it...I will willingly get nuked for it.

Best Whottt Quote ever? Surely for the summer, at least.

[UV Ray]

Best Whottt Quote ever? Surely for the summer, at least.

Manumaniac ought to take that as his sig.