Yahoo: Spurs front-runners in race for Maggette

[2centsworth]

Well this is my first post so Hi all. I'm really psyched about this Corey news. He's 6'6" so I would assume that he would be penciled in to start at SG. He is a banger though and can go down low and averaged over 5 rebounds last year. Im liking the shape that this team is taking. I think that we are good at PG with Parker, Hill and Vaugh. I like Vaugh alot. He runs the team well and doesn't make mistakes. We really don't need any scoring at the point position. I'd like to see us ad Barnes as well. He's a really solid player that does pretty much everything. And though I like Thomas we need another big man. I think that Mahamini can be a stud but Pop doesn't seem to really trust young kids lately. so gimme Magette, Barnes and a big man and I'm good.

welcome. Pop will play you if you have game and heart. Ian needs more game.

[spurman20]

I just about gave up on Tiago. He reupped for four more years. And we can only pay him as a rookie. I don't see him coming over anytime soon. Spurs maybe need to just mvoe on.

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.

[raspsa]

If the Spurs sign Magette. what sort of lineup do you see Pop playing to close out close ballgames?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.

Did you hear about this on the Agent Hand Book bulletin board? I hear that place has all the inside scoops.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.I have heard you got completely owned on the internets.

[spurman20]

He's not counted because he's under contract over seas.

Yes, we still own his rights, but that's not why he doesn't count.

That is a quote from the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement, which also states that your agents hand book is fucking stupid and you're full of shit.

Dude smoke some more pot, and lick that cheeto dust from you fingers.....We owned Javtokas rights when he sat out 2 yrs without playn pro ball ....did he count against the cap??

[anakha]

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.


Kill_Tiago_Pana?

[Buddy Holly]

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.


CHEESE!!

[T Park]

If the Spurs sign Magette. what sort of lineup do you see Pop playing to close out close ballgames?

The players that were playing the best that given night.

[oligarchy]

Yes he did reup for 4 yrs but I have heard that he will opt out after 2 yrs to play for spurs, He took the 5m a year in spain to make sure he would be set and then will come over. The spurs are sure of this.

Seriously. This is a good troll job. Props to whoever this was. I think it reeled in a number of unsuspecting fish.







It is a troll job right?

[ChumpDumper]

Dude smoke some more pot, and lick that cheeto dust from you fingers.....We owned Javtokas rights when he sat out 2 yrs without playn pro ball ....did he count against the cap??Not a first round pick.

[Big P]

I have heard you got completely owned on the internets.

lmao

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dude smoke some more pot, and lick that cheeto dust from you fingers.....We owned Javtokas rights when he sat out 2 yrs without playn pro ball ....did he count against the cap??

He wasn't playing ball, but he was still under contract overseas.

And he was a second rounder.

Seriously, I even copied and pasted from the CBA for you. I'm done with this discussion. You're either a troll or a dumbass.

[ss1986v2]

Dude smoke some more pot, and lick that cheeto dust from you fingers.....We owned Javtokas rights when he sat out 2 yrs without playn pro ball ....did he count against the cap??


Unsigned second round picks are not included in team salary. This is a loophole that Houston once tried to use by trading a first round pick for a second round pick in order to clear cap room.

[T Park]

Seriously. This is a good troll job. Props to whoever this was. I think it reeled in a number of unsuspecting fish.







It is a troll job right?


For the sake of humanity I'm hoping it is.

[spurman20]

Not a frist round pick.

Where your picked is has nothing to do with retaining rights

[2centsworth]

spurman20

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[oligarchy]

Dude smoke some more pot, and lick that cheeto dust from you fingers.....We owned Javtokas rights when he sat out 2 yrs without playn pro ball ....did he count against the cap??

He was hit in May of 02, and played again in 03-04. He also was under contract the whole time. Try again.

[anakha]

Damn, I should start subscribing to that Agent Handbook. :lol

[angelbelow]

If the Spurs sign Magette. what sort of lineup do you see Pop playing to close out close ballgames?

probably just play maggette where finley and barry used to play.

parker, manu, bowen, cm, td.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Where your picked is has nothing to do with retaining rights

Who said it did? We were talking about the salary cap hit for a team for its first rounder. Quit trying to change the subject, agent boy.

[2centsworth]

Who said it did? We were talking about the salary cap hit for a team for its first rounder. Quit trying to change the subject, agent boy.

you guys are being trolled and now he's trying to toy with you. he started off serious, but got exposed and now is trying to save face.

[oligarchy]

Damn, I should start subscribing to that Agent Handbook. :lol

YOU WILL MAKE ALOT OF CHEESE!

[Kindergarten Cop]

Where your picked is has nothing to do with retaining rights

I believe they are referring to the guaranteed contracts that are granted to first round picks, but not to second rounders.

[spurman20]

He wasn't playing ball, but he was still under contract overseas.

And he was a second rounder.

Seriously, I even copied and pasted from the CBA for you. I'm done with this discussion. You're either a troll or a dumbass.

Yes please move on to other fan sight you are a complete fool. Javtokas was not under contract the summer of his accident befor we were to bring him over.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He was hit in May of 02, and played again in 03-04. He also was under contract the whole time. Try again.

He was also a second round pick in 2001, which makes it all a moot point.

[ChumpDumper]

Where your picked is has nothing to do with retaining rightsSure, but you were talking about counting against the cap.

As it was already said, Javtokas was still under contract overseas and was getting all his medical bills paid by the Spurs anyway, so it would have been kind of stupid for him to force the issue even if it was possible.

Any agent would know that.

[Brutalis]

you guys are being trolled and now he's trying to toy with you. he started off serious, but got exposed and now is trying to save face.

Then who's winning?

[spurman20]

I believe they are referring to the guaranteed contracts that are granted to first round picks, but not to second rounders.

Right but salary is not on the books till signed with team....thats the point I was making

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yes please move on to other fan sight you are a complete fool. Javtokas was not under contract the summer of his accident befor we were to bring him over.


He was also a second round pick in 2001, which makes it all a moot point.

[TheMadHatter]

Maggette going to the Spurs just doesn't add up in my head. He's not a prototypical Spurs player and the Spurs are seriously one of the last teams I'd ever picture him on.

Maggette is lazy. He's got all the talent in the world to be a great player but he lacks motivation and work ethic. I see him headed to a less intense and demanding environment like ORL where he can play the same lazy defense and focus on scoring as opposed to headed to SAS where he'll have to learn defensive schemes until the cows come home. Just my opinion, I had a feeling Baron would sign with the Clippers when I heard about it and I have a gut feeling Maggette is going to end up in Orlando. He'll make the full MLE, have a starting job, be close to his family, and in a great location.

[ss1986v2]

Right but salary is not on the books till signed with team....thats the point I was making
and yet you are still wrong. thanks for playing.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes please move on to other fan sight you are a complete fool. Javtokas was not under contract the summer of his accident befor we were to bring him over.He also did not accept the qualifying tender offer the Spurs had to make every season he was a free agent to retain his rights.

It's all in your agents' handbook.

[spurman20]

Sure, but you were talking about counting against the cap.

As it was already said, Javtokas was still under contract overseas and was getting all his medical bills paid by the Spurs anyway, so it would have been kind of stupid for him to force the issue even if it was possible.

Any agent would know that.

Were do you get your info man, spurs cannot pay med bill untill he is under contract with them.....that would be a violation on CBA

[Buddy Holly]

I gotta say, I think Spurman is now owning you guys because you're still arguing with the obvious troll.

[oligarchy]

Sure, but you were talking about counting against the cap.

As it was already said, Javtokas was still under contract overseas and was getting all his medical bills paid by the Spurs anyway, so it would have been kind of stupid for him to force the issue even if it was possible.

Any agent would know that.

You don't even know what you are talking about. Do you have the handbook? If you made alot of cheese and lived in a 7200 sqft home, you would know what you are saying doesn't make sense.

[DynastyBuilder]

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[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Right but salary is not on the books till signed with team....thats the point I was making

And you're still wrong, unless that agent hand book of yours has a super duper version of the CBA that not even the NBA has.

[ChumpDumper]

Maggette going to the Spurs just doesn't add up in my head. He's not a prototypical Spurs player and the Spurs are seriously one of the last teams I'd ever picture him on.

Maggette is lazy. He's got all the talent in the world to be a great player but he lacks motivation and work ethic. I see him headed to a less intense and demanding environment like ORL where he can play the same lazy defense and focus on scoring as opposed to headed to SAS where he'll have to learn defensive schemes until the cows come home. Just my opinion, I had a feeling Baron would sign with the Clippers when I heard about it and I have a gut feeling Maggette is going to end up in Orlando. He'll make the full MLE, have a starting job, be close to his family, and in a great location.Why don't you call him and talk him out of it.

[ChumpDumper]

Were do you get your info man, spurs cannot pay med bill untill he is under contract with them.....that would be a violation on CBANah, it's all in the handbook.

[Buddy Holly]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n45/littlebrudda/DontFeedTheTroll.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

I gotta say, I think Spurman is now owning you guys because you're still arguing with the obvious troll.I gotta day, we are now owning you because we made you comment on our arguing with the troll.

[Brutalis]

Why don't you call him and talk him out of it.

So what's the story behind the Atlanta Hawks in your fav team? :lol

[jaffies]

Books with one page:

spurman20's guide to NBA free-agency.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I gotta say, I think Spurman is now owning you guys because you're still arguing with the obvious troll.

Eh, not really.

I just hope he replies to my PM about the agent hand book, I really want one of those things, it sounds like I could learn a lot :lol

[2centsworth]

Maggette going to the Spurs just doesn't add up in my head. He's not a prototypical Spurs player and the Spurs are seriously one of the last teams I'd ever picture him on.

Maggette is lazy. He's got all the talent in the world to be a great player but he lacks motivation and work ethic. I see him headed to a less intense and demanding environment like ORL where he can play the same lazy defense and focus on scoring as opposed to headed to SAS where he'll have to learn defensive schemes until the cows come home. Just my opinion, I had a feeling Baron would sign with the Clippers when I heard about it and I have a gut feeling Maggette is going to end up in Orlando. He'll make the full MLE, have a starting job, be close to his family, and in a great location.

Spurs need scoring, so he would fit in. Orlando has a bunch of pretenders not Tim, Tony and Manu.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I knew once I saw your name trolling the thread you were about to quote me and start more shit.

:nope

Cry more. I read this board most every day and I don't watch the NCAA so I come here for info on prospects.

You do the same shit in pretty much every thread I guess in some petty attempt to get your post count up so maybe will give a shit about your nonsense.

You did it again here so I am calling you on it once again. I don't appreciate it as it wastes my time so I am encouraging you to stop. If you want to call that 'trolling' in an effort to discredit me I could care less.

You show a definite pattern of saying negative things with little to no basis and for some reason you think Arkansas is cool. I have all I need to know.

[angelbelow]

Maggette going to the Spurs just doesn't add up in my head. He's not a prototypical Spurs player and the Spurs are seriously one of the last teams I'd ever picture him on.

Maggette is lazy. He's got all the talent in the world to be a great player but he lacks motivation and work ethic. I see him headed to a less intense and demanding environment like ORL where he can play the same lazy defense and focus on scoring as opposed to headed to SAS where he'll have to learn defensive schemes until the cows come home. Just my opinion, I had a feeling Baron would sign with the Clippers when I heard about it and I have a gut feeling Maggette is going to end up in Orlando. He'll make the full MLE, have a starting job, be close to his family, and in a great location.

that depends on if maggette wants to win. to be honest, he could play lazy D here too. even then hes an upgrade over barry and finleys D. He gets a starting job here too and will likely have a role as a scorer. he would make the same money here.

the magics really need a defender at the 2 rather than a scorer, they already have hedo and lewis shooting and dwight in the paint, it makes more sense for them to upgrade PG or find a 2 guard defnder. he really makes no sense there, other than the magics being able to say they upgraded their 2 position.

[J.T.]

The effect this will have on the Spurs (coupled with Hill panning out as a solid backup to Parker) will be about five times greater than the effect Bynum coming back to the Lakers will have.

[Brutalis]

Cry more. I read this board most every day and I don't watch the NCAA so I come here for info on prospects.

Cry about what? Read your own post and tell us who's crying bud.


You do the same shit in pretty much every thread I guess in some petty attempt to get your post count up so maybe will give a shit about your nonsense.

You obviously don't read many threads. And I don't know who Will is nor care if he gives a shit about my posts? :lol
Smoooooth.


You did it again here so I am calling you on it once again. I don't appreciate it as it wastes my time so I am encouraging you to stop. If you want to call that 'trolling' in an effort to discredit me I could care less.

1. Did what again? Reacting to someone quoting me? If you're trying to hint I made some insulting comment about Magz I didn't. He's a baller and we could use him.
2. You waste your own time apparently picking me out in the crowd of ass to pick at it yourself personally. You go boy.
3. Again you do care, or you wouldn't make it a habit typing as much, scrolling back pages to catch my reply, and hunting me down in all the threads you claim to read. Try again cupcake.


You show a definite pattern of saying negative things with little to no basis and for some reason you think Arkansas is cool. I have all I need to know.

Saying negative things about...? Name them, list them, define them, explain them. But you don't care remember? And I didn't say anything about .. Arkansas.. and I don't even wanna know where/why you brought that in here.

All you have is fuzzy lumpkins lodged in your anus giving you a bad carpet burn my friend. That and one failed attempt at some reply.

Try try again.

[misterx91578]

spurman20 is an agent just not the type you agent you think he is a ticket agent TICKETS TICKETS TICKETS who needs TICKETS:p:

[FuzzyLumpkins]

One thing that I don't seeing mentioned that plays into all this. He opted out of $7 million dollars and unless he colluded --which i really think Davis did-- and is going to sign with the Sixers next week then his priorities are either home or winning.

The only chance we have is if he wants to win a championship or Orlando doesn't want him. That leaves contending teams.

Boston and Detroit don't need scoring help on the wings overly much. I doubt he wants to play along side Kobe but another team that it makes an infinite amount of sense is New Orleans. Peterson hasn't been what they hoped and I can imagine that Maggette would like to play with a guy like Chris Paul.

It is going to be interesting to see what visits he has lined up in the next couple of days.

[Brutalis]

Sweetness!

[Big P]

1. When BD went to the Clipps, they had to renounce Maggs rights to offer him the kind of money he wanted.

2. Maggette can either A. See if GS, Phi, or Memphis makes him an outrageous contract offer OR B. Take a MLE deal from anyteam over the cap AND willing to pay the tax.

Thats it right? Even after signing Ellis & Biedrins, the W's will have about $18-19 mil in caproom....hopefully they wont get stupid. Nellie has some say, so hopefully he will hook us up...Philly has Igudola, they dont need Corey, they need a PF..and finally, who the hell wants to play in Memphis.

We know Boston is making Maggette an offer(so the reports say) & posssibly Orlando, and the Spurs, so it looks like its going to be a4 or 5 team race to sign him...He would be crazy not to want to play with TD.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Cry about what? Read your own post and tell us who's crying bud.



You obviously don't read many threads. And I don't know who Will is nor care if he gives a shit about my posts? :lol
Smoooooth.



1. Did what again? Reacting to someone quoting me? If you're trying to hint I made some insulting comment about Magz I didn't. He's a baller and we could use him.
2. You waste your own time apparently picking me out in the crowd of ass to pick at it yourself personally. You go boy.
3. Again you do care, or you wouldn't make it a habit typing as much, scrolling back pages to catch my reply, and hunting me down in all the threads you claim to read. Try again cupcake.



Saying negative things about...? Name them, list them, define them, explain them. But you don't care remember? And I didn't say anything about .. Arkansas.. and I don't even wanna know where/why you brought that in here.

All you have is fuzzy lumpkins lodged in your anus giving you a bad carpet burn my friend. That and one failed attempt at some reply.

Try try again.

Line by line responses are so lame and I have read plenty of your drivel.

And spare me the first thing you said in this thread is that he isn't coming here and you were stating that you got to the 'hes not coming here squad' before agentboy as if you reveled the role. Don't act coy. At least be consistent.

[TheMadHatter]

One thing that I don't seeing mentioned that plays into all this. He opted out of $7 million dollars and unless he colluded --which i really think Davis did-- and is going to sign with the Sixers next week then his priorities are either home or winning.

The only chance we have is if he wants to win a championship or Orlando doesn't want him. That leaves contending teams.

Boston and Detroit don't need scoring help on the wings overly much. I doubt he wants to play along side Kobe but another team that it makes an infinite amount of sense is New Orleans. Peterson hasn't been what they hoped and I can imagine that Maggette would like to play with a guy like Chris Paul.

It is going to be interesting to see what visits he has lined up in the next couple of days.

I agree. There are SO many contending teams that are in dire need of a player like Maggette. He's going to be the most popular man this off-season.

[ChumpDumper]

This thread's derailments are pretty classic.

[bigdog]

This thread should take a vacation until some more news comes up.

[Brutalis]

Line by line responses are so lame and I have read plenty of your drivel.

And spare me the first thing you said in this thread is that he isn't coming here and you were stating that you got to the 'hes not coming here squad' before agentboy as if you reveled the role. Don't act coy. At least be consistent.

You just called 90% of ST regulars lame. Nice job.

What's really sad is you are so serious man. I honestly kinda feel bad for your animosity and ignorance. One makes his own opinions and you constantly make failed attempts to slam them. What is your point troll? What (when there isn't) reason do you have for that? And tell me what do I need to act coy about really?

Consistency is my virtue. That's one of many traits I possess actually.

Try again.

[Manuismyhomeboy]

Here is an article about Orlando's offseason from realgm.com so take it for what its worth. They state a handful of times that unless they are willing to pay into the luxury tax, which they more than likely aren't, then there is no way the can afford Maggette.

Here is the link: http://magic.realgm.com/articles/64/20080701/$10_million_for_five_players/

[duncan228]

This thread's derailments are pretty classic.

:lol It's been an amusing couple of hours.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1. When BD went to the Clipps, they had to renounce Maggs rights to offer him the kind of money he wanted.

2. Maggette can either A. See if GS, Phi, or Memphis makes him an outrageous contract offer OR B. Take a MLE deal from anyteam over the cap AND willing to pay the tax.

Thats it right? Even after signing Ellis & Biedrins, the W's will have about $18-19 mil in caproom....hopefully they wont get stupid. Nellie has some say, so hopefully he will hook us up...Philly has Igudola, they dont need Corey, they need a PF..and finally, who the hell wants to play in Memphis.

We know Boston is making Maggette an offer(so the reports say) & posssibly Orlando, and the Spurs, so it looks like its going to be a4 or 5 team race to sign him...He would be crazy not to want to play with TD.

Why would Boston be interested when they have Allen, Pierce and are trying to lock up Posey?

[tmtcsc]

This is more hype than anything. I hate to rain on everyone's parade but Maggette is going to go to Golden State. ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE $$$$.

I hope I'm wrong. BTW, is he that much better than JR Smith ? Seems to me that Smith, while extremely wild, attacks the basket with a vengance. He can also shoot the three. Maggette always seemed to lack fire or passion. Ah well, too many people in here are jizzing all over the place for the guy for me to be right.

I thought Smith would be the better FA pick up for all of his potential.

[Brutalis]

:lol It's been an amusing couple of hours.

I'm actually having fun. :rollin

[T Park]

This is more hype than anything. I hate to rain on everyone's parade but Maggette is going to go to Golden State. ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE $$$$.

I hope I'm wrong. BTW, is he that much better than JR Smith ? Seems to me that Smith, while extremely wild, attacks the basket with a vengance. He can also shoot the three. Maggette always seemed to lack fire or passion. Ah well, too many people in here are jizzing all over the place for the guy for me to be right.

I thought Smith would be the better FA pick up for all of his potential.

Link to Golden State being interested?

[Spur-Addict]

This thread's derailments are pretty classic.

The hate is everywhere, but the fact that some put on a Mr. Rodgers face is even more disturbing. Inside they are hoping this isn't going to happen.

[curtismedellin]

:lol
This thread's derailments are pretty classic.

[tmtcsc]

Link to Golden State being interested?


Are you serious ? They just got punked by Baron Davis and you don't think they will try to go after the best available UFA with all that cash ?

Here's a link: www.the-very-obvious.com

[Spur-Addict]

This is more hype than anything. I hate to rain on everyone's parade but Maggette is going to go to Golden State. ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE $$$$.

I hope I'm wrong. BTW, is he that much better than JR Smith ? Seems to me that Smith, while extremely wild, attacks the basket with a vengance. He can also shoot the three. Maggette always seemed to lack fire or passion. Ah well, too many people in here are jizzing all over the place for the guy for me to be right.

I thought Smith would be the better FA pick up for all of his potential.

So, Golden State isn't considering your thoughts ? I'm sure they are even if it isn't being reported as so.

[ChumpDumper]

This is more hype than anything. I hate to rain on everyone's parade but Maggette is going to go to Golden State. ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE $$$$.Golden State almost has too many options available now. They are making a run at Arenas now, which could take all kinds of time if Washington feels like entering trade talks. They could also go into some lopsided trade with, say, New York to get them out of tax hell.

[DynastyBuilder]

well its official http://www.nba.com/spurs/... (http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/campvideo_08.html)




















That Tony Parker was at Spurs Camp :)

(couldn't resist)

[T Park]

Are you serious ? They just got punked by Baron Davis and you don't think they will try to go after the best available UFA with all that cash ?

Here's a link: www.the-very-obvious.com

Lose a point guard, go after a shooting guard.

Makes sense :tu

[T Park]

Golden State almost has too many options available now. They are making a run at Arenas now, which could take all kinds of time if Washington feels like entering trade talks. They could also go into some lopsided trade with, say, New York to get them out of tax hell.

Exactly.

They need a point guard desperately, and Maggette the last I checked, isn't one.

[Big P]

Why would Boston be interested when they have Allen, Pierce and are trying to lock up Posey?


http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2008/07/celtics_make_of.html
Source: Celtics make offers to Posey, Maggette
Email|Link|Comments (51) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 1, 2008 05:11 PM

The Celtics have made contract offers to two forwards: Their own free agent, James Posey, and Clippers free agent Corey Maggette, sources told the Boston Globe. The most the Celtics could offer is the mid-level exception (about $5.8 million), and it's doubtful that they could sign both players. The terms of the offers were not disclosed.

Posey averaged 7.4 points and 4.4 rebounds in 2007-08 and was a NBA Sixth Man of the Year candidate in his first season with Boston. The two-time NBA champion was a strong leader for the Celtics and opted out of the second year of a two-year deal on Monday to become an unrestricted free agent. Maggette averaged 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds last season for the Clippers and played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You know how the saying goes....If it's too good to be true....


I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Big P]

Exactly.

They need a point guard desperately, and Maggette the last I checked, isn't one.

they have their PG in Ellis, Nelson has said thats who he wants playing PG.

[T Park]

they have their PG in Ellis, Nelson has said thats who he wants playing PG.

Yeah.

And?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I agree. There are SO many contending teams that are in dire need of a player like Maggette. He's going to be the most popular man this off-season.

Agree with what? Hes not going to just sign the MLE with any team and only certain contenders are going to want him.

Lakers - have Kobe and Odom and are concerned with Bynum.
Boston - Allen and Pierce and are trying to resign Posey
Suns - Bell, Diaw, Hill and Barbosa.
Detroit is losing Hayes but wouldnt be able to offer a starting role
Dallas has all kinds of shit at the swing position.

I mean when it really comes dwon to it I think it will come down to Orlando, NO and us. NO would have to be insane to not go after him.

[TheMadHatter]

GSW is looking for a PG right now not a SG/SF. They have plenty of those. The only way I could see them making a run at Maggette is if they decide to move Monta to PG where he really should be playing anyways.

[Spaceman Spiff]

they have their PG in Ellis, Nelson has said thats who he wants playing PG.

Fair enough...but they are reportedly offering a max deal to Arenas.

Ellis doesn't really have the court vision of a point guard, and in the past he's only had to make plays for himself. It would be a strange transition since Nelson will be in his last year...I doubt he'll be in the mood to train a player long term.

[Big P]

Exactly.

They need a point guard desperately, and Maggette the last I checked, isn't one.

[tmtcsc]

Lose a point guard, go after a shooting guard.

Makes sense :tu


Who was BD's back up ? Won't Monta Ellis take the point now ? In Nellie's offense, if you can shoot, you can play where ever you want.

Monta Ellis
Steven Jackson
Corey Maggette
Biedrins
Harrington

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2008/07/celtics_make_of.html
Source: Celtics make offers to Posey, Maggette
Email|Link|Comments (51) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 1, 2008 05:11 PM

The Celtics have made contract offers to two forwards: Their own free agent, James Posey, and Clippers free agent Corey Maggette, sources told the Boston Globe. The most the Celtics could offer is the mid-level exception (about $5.8 million), and it's doubtful that they could sign both players. The terms of the offers were not disclosed.

Posey averaged 7.4 points and 4.4 rebounds in 2007-08 and was a NBA Sixth Man of the Year candidate in his first season with Boston. The two-time NBA champion was a strong leader for the Celtics and opted out of the second year of a two-year deal on Monday to become an unrestricted free agent. Maggette averaged 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds last season for the Clippers and played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

Maggette wouldnt start there and unless Posey moves onto greener pastures hes not going anywhere. It makes little sense but who knows. They dont have 2 MLE.

[ChumpDumper]

Lose a PG, get a PF?

Sources: Warriors make offer to Brand after losing Davis

Posted: July 2, 2008

It has been known that the Golden State Warriors, reacting to the surprise opt-out of point guard Baron Davis and the even bigger surprise signing by the Los Angeles Clippers, have tried to replace him with another point guard, Washington Wizards free agent Gilbert Arenas. But, despite Arenas' frequently professed love for the Bay Area, multiple sources say it's likely that Arenas will head back to the Wizards with a near-max contract in hand.

But here's what hasn't been known: Two sources report that the Warriors, flush with cap space now that they're not responsible for Davis' $17.8 million option, reached out with an offer to Clippers free-agent big man Elton Brand in an attempt to limit any potential PR damage from the loss of Davis. "Baron is very popular," one of the sources says, "and if they can't replace him with Gilbert, Elton is the next-best option."

On one hand, the loss of Davis creates a vast amount of cap space for Golden State and more flexibility to build on its young roster. On the other hand, cap space does not sell tickets, and the Warriors are lacking a point guard. Brand, one of the NBA's most personable players, would mitigate the loss of Davis. Further, coach Don Nelson might not be eager to preside over a rebuilding project in what is likely his final year as the team's coach, so the Warriors would need to add veteran help.

Golden State would be a long shot to sign Brand, who has said he wants to remain a Clipper. One of Brand's goals in opting out of the final year of his contract -- besides the obvious goal of longer-term financial security -- was to help force the improvement of the Clippers' roster. With Davis on board, the Clippers have accomplished that, and Brand could sign a new contract with the Clippers quickly.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=430104

[Big P]

Fair enough...but they are reportedly offering a max deal to Arenas.

Ellis doesn't really have the court vision of a point guard, and in the past he's only had to make plays for himself. It would be a strange transition since Nelson will be in his last year...I doubt he'll be in the mood to train a player long term.


Arenas back to GS is not going to happen...A max deal in GS is $100 mil...a max deal in Washington is $126 mil...he is not leaving +$20 mil on the table...he said that he will resign after Antawn Jamison commited..that already happened...its just a formality now.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Who was BD's back up ? Won't Monta Ellis take the point now ? In Nellie's offense, if you can shoot, you can play where ever you want.

Monta Ellis
Steven Jackson
Corey Maggette
Biedrins
Harrington

You have a good point, but when has Nellie not had a good distributor? From Baron to Nash to Hate Gays Hardaway...a system is great, but you need a guy that can get others involved. Can Monta?

[Spurtacus]

We need more guys who can do this.

T7OLaNA16cA

[TheMadHatter]

Agree with what? Hes not going to just sign the MLE with any team and only certain contenders are going to want him.

Lakers - have Kobe and Odom and are concerned with Bynum.
Boston - Allen and Pierce and are trying to resign Posey
Suns - Bell, Diaw, Hill and Barbosa.
Detroit is losing Hayes but wouldnt be able to offer a starting role
Dallas has all kinds of shit at the swing position.

I mean when it really comes dwon to it I think it will come down to Orlando, NO and us. NO would have to be insane to not go after him.

The Suns are trying to move Diaw and Barbosa. Maggette would start at SF and Hill would back him up off the bench. They want to preserve Hill for the playoffs. He'd be a good fit there.

The Mavs would have to trade Howard, which I think they want to do anyway, if they picked up Maggette. If so, I could see them entering the fray.

The Magic have a clear need for a guy like Maggette. His family lives in Florida and he'd be getting a starting role in a weak EC. This seems like the best fit for him IMHO.

The Hornets DEFINITELY could use Maggette. He would put them over the top IMHO.

The Pistons could do a trade like this if they considered moving Prince.

The bottom line is a lot of contending teams could use a guy like Maggette. There has to be something else to motivate him, which is why I think ORL will ultimately win out.

[ChumpDumper]

lakerfan is worried.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Arenas back to GS is not going to happen...A max deal in GS is $100 mil...a max deal in Washington is $126 mil...he is not leaving +$20 mil on the table...he said that he will resign after Antawn Jamison commited..that already happened...its just a formality now.

But they offered $100 million to a point guard is the point, not whether not it will ever happen (and I agree that it won't).

[Spaceman Spiff]

We need more guys who can do this.

T7OLaNA16cA

Unfortunately, Corey does a lot more of the first part of the video, and had only done the second part once.

Still, I'll take him.

[Spurtacus]

and this...

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[tmtcsc]

So, as GS watches Arenas and Brand fall off the list, who will they target next ? They need a PG desperately, yet they go after Gilbert Arenas (who hasn't passed the ball in years) and Elton Brand.

Arenas is staying in DC now that his buddy Jamison will be locked up and Brand is re-signing with LA now that his buddy is going to join him on the Clips.

Hell, GS can offer Posey and Maggette both 8 Mil a year contracts.

[Spurtacus]

but definitely not this...

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Suns are trying to move Diaw and Barbosa. Maggette would start at SF and Hill would back him up off the bench. They want to preserve Hill for the playoffs. He'd be a good fit there.

The Mavs would have to trade Howard, which I think they want to do anyway, if they picked up Maggette. If so, I could see them entering the fray.

The Magic have a clear need for a guy like Maggette. His family lives in Florida and he'd be getting a starting role in a weak EC. This seems like the best fit for him IMHO.

The Hornets DEFINITELY could use Maggette. He would put them over the top IMHO.

The Pistons could do a trade like this if they considered moving Prince.

The bottom line is a lot of contending teams could use a guy like Maggette. There has to be something else to motivate him, which is why I think ORL will ultimately win out.

With the exception of NO all of your scenarios demand that they trade someone first and that said teams actually want to trade them which I am not buying in the least. Draft day trade rumors don't just extend over into the FA arena.

[ChumpDumper]

Hell, GS can offer Posey and Maggette both 8 Mil a year contracts.But why?

[tmtcsc]

But why?

Because they can improve their team with both players AND do a sign and trade to get Josh Childress or some other big. Hell, maybe they go after DIOP to give them some more D and rebounding.

[ChumpDumper]

Because they can improve their team with both players AND do a sign and trade to get Josh Childress.Not with those salaries on the books.

[T Park]

But, why...

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, who would be the draw now?

Who takes Baron's place as the face of the franchise?

The reason people buy tickets?

[tmtcsc]

It's settled. With more $$ than anyone else out there, the Golden State Warriors will NOT offer the best available UFA a contract worth more than the MLE. Meanwhile, not 1 better FA at the PG position even exists on the market...

[ChumpDumper]

It's settled. With more $$ than anyone else out there, the Golden State Warriors will NOT offer the best available UFA a contract worth more than the MLE. Meanwhile, not 1 better FA at the PG position even exists on the market...Why do they have to limit themselves to the FA market?

[Blackjack]

But, why...

Cuz when you have alot of money...

You got to spend alot of money. :lol

[tmtcsc]

I mean, who would be the draw now?

Who takes Baron's place as the face of the franchise?

The reason people buy tickets?

Exactly !! Who's out there that can replace Baron as the face of the franchise ? No one !
So what do you do ? How do you better your team ? I believe the Warriors will have 18 to 19 million dollars available to try and find some combination of FA's to try and win. No other big names are available.

[tmtcsc]

Why do they have to limit themselves to the FA market?

Who do they have that they can trade for anything good in return ?

[TheMadHatter]

With the exception of NO all of your scenarios demand that they trade someone first and that said teams actually want to trade them which I am not buying in the least. Draft day trade rumors don't just extend over into the FA arena.

The Clippers just renounced his rights today, expect to see more teams enter the fray by tomorrow. Just because a team doesn't explicitly need a player like him doesn't mean they won't try and acquire him. Why else would BOS make a run at him?

A 20/5 SF for the MLE price is going to attract a lot of attention.

[ChumpDumper]

Who do they have that they can trade for anything good in return ?Why do they have to trade anyone?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's settled. With more $$ than anyone else out there, the Golden State Warriors will NOT offer the best available UFA a contract worth more than the MLE. Meanwhile, not 1 better FA at the PG position even exists on the market...

They are sitting at $33 million in salaries, and have to pay Ellis and Biedrins, both expected to be $10 million dollar guys. That's $53 million, lux tax at $70 million, and they have an owner who does not want to pay the lux tax.

They will make some moves, but they won't be reckless.

[tmtcsc]

Why do they have to trade anyone?

So that they can get you to post your bullshit on their site. Are you hav'n a laugh ? Are you hav'n a laugh. :lol

Nice try dude. In the absence of argument you try for the "I was just trying to see if I could wind him up".. That or you kept wanting to see my avatar.

[TheMadHatter]

Getting Maggette for slightly above the MLE is not reckless. Giving Arenas a max contract is reckless.

[ChumpDumper]

So that they can get you to post your bullshit on their site. Are you hav'n a laugh ? Are you hav'n a laugh. :lol

Nice try dude. In the absence of argument you try for the "I was just trying to see if I could wind him up".. That or you kept wanting to see my avatar.I have avatars turned off.

It seems you don't realize all the possibilities that amount of cap space provides.

[tmtcsc]

They are sitting at $33 million in salaries, and have to pay Ellis and Biedrins, both expected to be $10 million dollar guys. That's $53 million, lux tax at $70 million, and they have an owner who does not want to pay the lux tax.

They will make some moves, but they won't be reckless.


Didn't they just offer Gilbert Arenas $ 100 million ? And now that he's going to probably stay, they are going after Brand ? That's not only reckless its desperate. Maggette can be had for 8 mill a year probably.

[tmtcsc]

I have avatars turned off.

It seems you don't realize all the possibilities that amount of cap space provides.

So, none of your possibilities has GS pursuing CM ? Instead of trading, instead of pursuing FA, instead of relying on new draft picks for production, they are going to do what ?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Clippers just renounced his rights today, expect to see more teams enter the fray by tomorrow. Just because a team doesn't explicitly need a player like him doesn't mean they won't try and acquire him. Why else would BOS make a run at him?

A 20/5 SF for the MLE price is going to attract a lot of attention.

Boston has said there priority is Posey and unless Posey goes somewhere else its not happening. That also assumes that Maggette would be fine with a bench role. Thats a lot of ifs.

But hey rather than actually look at the teams that:

A) Maggette would be interested in and
B) Would be interested in Maggette,

lets just say that a lot of them will be interested like that makes any difference.

[Streakyshooter08]

While I am not really sold that it really will happen. Maggette for the MLE would be awesome.

The thing is that I cannot remember a signing that has been "leaked" before it actually happend by the Spurs. I still doubt it happens....if it does I am excited.

[ChumpDumper]

So, none of your possibilities has GS pursuing CM ? Instead of trading, instead of pursuing FA, instead of relying on new draft picks for production, they are going to do what ?I already presented possibilities.

Pursuing Maggette is only one option of many.

Signing Maggette along with Biendris and Ellis will preclude them from acquiring a franchise level player. I imagine they will consider their options carefully before choosing that course of action.

[wisnub]

Dear God..Please make it happen!!!

Suddenly I like Spurs FO...my praying is being answered. They want quick improvement...hopefully Magette will sign with Spurs

[DPG21920]

JR is the better of the option in my opinion. I just do not know if Mags will come to the Spurs where he will be expected to play D. If he does, that is a short term energy burst and would be excellent. What would our roster look like if JR or Corey signs?

[angelbelow]

I already presented possibilities.

Pursuing Maggette is only one option of many.

Signing Maggette along with Biendris and Ellis will preclude them from acquiring a franchise level player. I imagine they will consider their options carefully before choosing that course of action.

unless they foolishly consider ellis a franchise player. otherwise i dont see gs being suitable competitors.

[tmtcsc]

I already presented possibilities.

Pursuing Maggette is only one option of many.

Signing Maggette along with Biendris and Ellis will preclude them from acquiring a franchise level player. I imagine they will consider their options carefully before choosing that course of action.

Where ?

[tmtcsc]

Golden State fans want them to pursue Iguodala. The Sixers aren't letting him go.

[angelbelow]

JR is the better of the option in my opinion. I just do not know if Mags will come to the Spurs where he will be expected to play D. If he does, that is a short term energy burst and would be excellent. What would our roster look like if JR or Corey signs?

i think JR is a better fit as well, but maggette is more talented.

pg- Parker/hill/jacky
sg- maggette(or smith)/ginobili/barry(or finley)
sf- bowen/ udoka
pf- duncan/ian/bonner
c- obie

[wisnub]

Boston has said there priority is Posey and unless Posey goes somewhere else its not happening. That also assumes that Maggette would be fine with a bench role. Thats a lot of ifs.

But hey rather than actually look at the teams that:

A) Maggette would be interested in and
B) Would be interested in Maggette,

lets just say that a lot of them will be interested like that makes any difference.

Magette would not be on bench. If Finley can start,then why the hell Corey is on the bench? Manu doesnt mind sparking the bench last season, I think its good to have explosive from bench and keep Manu fresh for 4th quarter. Manu will get another six man award for sure, he is a true unselfish warrior. Please come Corey, you can be a starter if you want...

[DPG21920]

But Barry is gone is he not? That leaves us thin at center and I think we need Kurt back as well.

[angelbelow]

Didn't they just offer Gilbert Arenas $ 100 million ? And now that he's going to probably stay, they are going after Brand ? That's not only reckless its desperate. Maggette can be had for 8 mill a year probably.

i wouldnt say its desperate. its a risky move but not reckless, and we know the payout that gilbert is capable of. he just has to be healthy.

[ChumpDumper]

Where ?In my posts.

Relatively speaking, they just lost Tim Duncan. Is signing Maggette and their free agents the only and best course of action available to them?

[tmtcsc]

We have a better chance at getting JR Smith. CM will take the highest offer me thinks.

[DPG21920]

I think we need to keep Gino on the bench. Now that we might get a scorer in the 2 spot, it makes the Gino off the bench so much more potent.

[tp2021]

But Barry is gone is he not? That leaves us thin at center

Que?

[Spaceman Spiff]

But Barry is gone is he not? That leaves us thin at center and I think we need Kurt back as well.

What?

[ChumpDumper]

We have a better chance at getting JR Smith. CM will take the highest offer me thinks.Who is offering?

[DPG21920]

Let me clarify.. he said Barry would be in our line-up, and in the line-up he posted we only had one center (Oberto) which I said left us thin at the position. Not Barry leaving us thin at the center...

[tmtcsc]

In my posts.

Relatively speaking, they just lost Tim Duncan. Is signing Maggette and their free agents the only and best course of action available to them?

I don't think so, not if the cap raises as expected and the $$ gains on the Euro. Buy more bread.

[angelbelow]

But Barry is gone is he not? That leaves us thin at center and I think we need Kurt back as well.

i wouldnt say hes gone yet, he just wants to test the market, hopefully he returns to us, we need the depth.

[DPG21920]

No ass, that is obviously not what I meant.. I already clarified

[Spaceman Spiff]

We have a better chance at getting JR Smith. CM will take the highest offer me thinks.

Nobody will give him more than the MLE. Philly, Memphis, and GS are the only teams that can...and I don't believe any of them will (you believe GS may, but Philly and Memphis surely will not).

[DPG21920]

Let me clarify.. he said Barry would be in our line-up, and in the line-up he posted we only had one center (Oberto) which I said left us thin at the position. Not Barry leaving us thin at the center...

Open your eyes...

[bigdog]

No ass, that is obviously not what I meant.. I already clarified

I know, I know. I hadn't seen the post. I deleted mine.

[tmtcsc]

i wouldnt say its desperate. its a risky move but not reckless, and we know the payout that gilbert is capable of. he just has to be healthy.

Gotta disagree with you on the payout. Arenas can score but he's a terrible team player. The Wiz played better without him but he puts butts in seats.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think so, not if the cap raises as expected and the $$ gains on the Euro. Buy more bread.What does the Euro have to do with the salary cap that has already been set?

Don't muddy the waters.

You are claiming the Warriors only option is to sign Maggette. If they also sign their draft picks and major free agents, that's all they will be able to do.

They have replaced Davis with Maggette.

Are they better than last season?

Yes or no.

[tmtcsc]

Nobody will give him more than the MLE. Philly, Memphis, and GS are the only teams that can...and I don't believe any of them will (you believe GS may, but Philly and Memphis surely will not).

I agree, Philly and Memphis wont go after him.

[bigdog]

Gotta disagree with you on the payout. Arenas can score but he's a terrible team player. The Wiz played better without him but he puts butts in seats.

He had a breakout season a couple of years ago, so the fans fell in love with him. I don't think they realize they played some very solid team basketball without him. Now, with him back in the mix, it's just gonna distort what they had going last season, and it will show that his value is overrated.

[tmtcsc]

What does the Euro have to do with the salary cap that has already been set?

Don't muddy the waters.

You are claiming the Warriors only option is to sign Maggette. If they also sign their draft picks and major free agents, that's all they will be able to do.

They have replaced Davis with Maggette.

Are they better than last season?

Yes or no.

Will they have fans in seats w/o a name player ? How the hell were they going to manage signing Ellis, Biedrins and Arenas ?

[mavs>spurs2]

Maggette to the Spurs would really suck for the rest of us..

[tmtcsc]

He had a breakout season a couple of years ago, so the fans fell in love with him. I don't think they realize they played some very solid team basketball without him. Now, with him back in the mix, it's just gonna distort what they had going last season, and it will show that his value is overrated.


Yep. He and Artest should sign somewhere together. They both seem to be narcissistic freaks.

[ChumpDumper]

Will they have fans in seats w/o a name player ?That is my question to you
How the hell were they going to manage signing Ellis, Biedrins and Arenas ?It's not clear that they would re-sign Ellis in that case. They would definitely have to re-sign him if Maggette was signed.

[angelbelow]

Gotta disagree with you on the payout. Arenas can score but he's a terrible team player. The Wiz played better without him but he puts butts in seats.

true, theres a fineline b/t franchise player and frachise level talent but selfish. perhaps gilbert is in the AI mold of making franchise player money but not producing wins.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm going to put this out there: I'd rather have Josh Childress than Corey Maggette. I'd take either...but I'd rather have Childress.

I know Maggette has tremendous upside, but I just don't know if he can adjust to a system the way Childress...a very smart player who can play 3 positions....can.

[tmtcsc]

That is my question to youIt's not clear that they would re-sign Ellis in that case. They would definitely have to re-sign him if Maggette was signed.

Let's just see how this plays out. My $$ says he stays on the West Coast after GS makes him an offer. As a Spurs fan, I hope I'm wrong. I just hope he doesn't dick around with us like other FA's have in the past (Lamond Murray).

Either he signs on July 9 or we move on. No time to waste.

[ThunderStix®]

Well, since my Pistons are probably done, :depressed I hope the Spurs can win it all next year. This move would make them the favorites in my opinion.

I don't want to see the Lakers or Celtics in the Finals EVER again.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's just see how this plays out. My $$ says he stays on the West Coast after GS makes him an offer.So Maggette is a franchise player.

[tmtcsc]

Since when is 8 or 9 Million a year FRANCHISE money ? If they sign him, he also becomes a tradeable asset in the future.

[ChumpDumper]

Since when is 8 or 9 Million a year FRANCHISE money ?Since he's replacing a franchise player.

[DPG21920]

This ish is crazy.. if we end up with Corey, JR or Childress I will be thrilled to death, as long as Ian shows some good moments and we re-sign Kurt..

[tmtcsc]

Since he's replacing a franchise player.

He's the closest thing to a franchise player available on the market. What franchise player do you see GS replacing BD with ?

[ChumpDumper]

He's the closest thing to a franchise player available on the market.Are there any other markets out there?

[bigdog]

I think it comes down to the Spurs, Warriors, and maybe Magic(if they don't offer Duhon something).

Out of the 3, the Magic could be offering some of the MLE to Duhon after the offer the Knicks gave him. That could erase them from the possibilities.

That leaves GS and SA. GS would look to either add Maggette to replace the star power of Davis, or they could resign Azubuike, Ellis, and Biedrins. I don't think there's any way they let go of Biedrins, because he's really their only good big that can fit Nellie's system. Ellis is pretty much their PG, so they can't let him go either. Azubuike is a Nellie favorite, obviously, as he played Azubuike in favor of Pietrus and sometimes Barnes.
If they sign Maggette to the big contract he wants, that potentially leaves them without Ellis/Biedrins, or maybe both. Just that alone could make them hold back, and I didn't even mention Kelenna right there.

That's just my view on how they could look at it.

[WildcardManu]

wow, this thread is still going strong.

[hsxvvd]

I love it.

Any Blue Devil is a good signing.

[angelbelow]

Well, since my Pistons are probably done, :depressed I hope the Spurs can win it all next year. This move would make them the favorites in my opinion.

I don't want to see the Lakers or Celtics in the Finals EVER again.

thanks for your support, giving us prince would help.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I love it.

Any Blue Devil is a good signing.
He agrees:
http://www.hoops4thesoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cherokeeparks.jpg

[angelbelow]

I'm going to put this out there: I'd rather have Josh Childress than Corey Maggette. I'd take either...but I'd rather have Childress.

I know Maggette has tremendous upside, but I just don't know if he can adjust to a system the way Childress...a very smart player who can play 3 positions....can.

i too would love to have childress over maggette. but childress is a lot harder to get.

[Streakyshooter08]

No matter how it works out I hope it does not drag out too long.

[bigdog]

He agrees:
http://www.hoops4thesoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cherokeeparks.jpg

now, those were the days......:lol

Oh Cherokee, how I would have loved to get you, Mark Bryant, and a couple of other guys off the team back then.

[Spaceman Spiff]

i too would love to have childress over maggette. but childress is a lot harder to get.

Yup. But in the end, they're both going to get the MLE, I believe. I imagine Atlanta will take care of Smith first.

[bigdog]

It must be Atlanta's priority to get Smith resigned before Childress. Smith has much higher value, and I think they could live with possibly letting Childress walk over losing Smith to the Sixers.

[sUPER sOAKER]

Sign magette.

fianlly, the spurs gonna geta real nigga.

lets play some bawl.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's just see how this plays out. My $$ says he stays on the West Coast after GS makes him an offer. As a Spurs fan, I hope I'm wrong. I just hope he doesn't dick around with us like other FA's have in the past (Lamond Murray).

Either he signs on July 9 or we move on. No time to waste.Honestly, I am busting your balls with faux Socratic method here. The Warriors could very well decide to sign Maggette as their major get this summer. I'm just saying that that much cap space gives them many more possibilities to consider.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm white!

[angelbelow]

Yup. But in the end, they're both going to get the MLE, I believe. I imagine Atlanta will take care of Smith first.

yea.. sucks that one is so much harder to get..

[sUPER sOAKER]

i suck cock

[tp2021]

you suck cock, super soaker?

[ChumpDumper]

In a whitely fashion.

[angelbelow]

It must be Atlanta's priority to get Smith resigned before Childress. Smith has much higher value, and I think they could live with possibly letting Childress walk over losing Smith to the Sixers.

but smith is also the priority of the sixers, so if the sixers steal him then they'll gladly resign childress.

[T Park]

but smith is also the priority of the sixers, so if the sixers steal him then they'll gladly resign childress.

hes restricted, so the Hawks can just match.

[angelbelow]

hes restricted, so the Hawks can just match.

the hawks dont want to overpay smith tho, so by steal i meant if they offer him something the hawks dont want to match.

[sUPER sOAKER]

how austin chumpdumper?

[DPG21920]

We are all just stressing over nothing. There are so many things that can happen and all of this is just rumors. If the Spurs re-sign Kurt and Barry, get some small production from Hill and Ian and land a serviceable wing who can defend and score that is a good off-season. There is no real evidence that Corey will come or J.R. or Gordon or Childress. Anyone of those guys would be an absolute thrill to get, but I am not holding my breath...or am I?

[rayray2k8]

I might be one of the few to say that Maggette aint coming to S.A.
Dont get me wrong, would love to have the dude, but I aint holding my breath
for him.
I think money matters more to him right now and will make everyone wait till the 9th.
Spurs fans need to stop acting "giddy" about the spurs slim chances of signing him.

There is no offical signing, verbal agreement or anything and people here think
title number 5 is on the way..

Come on, be serious. :rolleyes

[angelbelow]

it does say were front runners, this isnt a pipe dream situation. only 3 teams can offer him more than the MLE and they are grizzles, sixers, and warriors. outside of the warriors i dont see the other 2 teams paying corey more. even with the warriors they have sjax ellis and they now need to look for a PG.

with that said corey is looking at the MLE, now its just a preference of where he wants to play. i think we have a better shot than boston for starters.

[DPG21920]

That is assuming no team is willing to pay any luxury tax to get him.

[T Park]

I might be one of the few to say that Maggette aint coming to S.A.
Dont get me wrong, would love to have the dude, but I aint holding my breath
for him.
I think money matters more to him right now and will make everyone wait till the 9th.
Spurs fans need to stop acting "giddy" about the spurs slim chances of signing him.

There is no offical signing, verbal agreement or anything and people here think
title number 5 is on the way..

Come on, be serious. :rolleyes

No thanks, I'd prefer to be happy and hopefully than a miserable bitch like yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

how austin chumpdumper?It's fine.

[T Park]

it does say were front runners, this isnt a pipe dream situation. only 3 teams can offer him more than the MLE and they are grizzles, sixers, and warriors. outside of the warriors i dont see the other 2 teams paying corey more. even with the warriors they have sjax ellis and they now need to look for a PG.

with that said corey is looking at the MLE, now its just a preference of where he wants to play. i think we have a better shot than boston for starters.


Yeah I don't think hes coming, but, if theres multiple sources saying "Spurs are leading the race"

Then it gives you a minute to wonder if theres a chance.

[jmard5]

wow, this thread is still going strong.

Pretty much. :lol

[angelbelow]

Pretty much. :lol

slowing down now. :sleep

[mystargtr34]

:lmao:lmao

[wijayas]

I might be one of the few to say that Maggette aint coming to S.A.
Dont get me wrong, would love to have the dude, but I aint holding my breath
for him.
I think money matters more to him right now and will make everyone wait till the 9th.
Spurs fans need to stop acting "giddy" about the spurs slim chances of signing him.

Fully Agreed! :toast :toast :toast

[MarHill]

Right now...it is speculation that Maggette will come to SA. But, I have said to friends and co-workers after the WCF.....this is the guy to go after. It will bring some much needed scoring and athleticism to the SG/SF position that the Spurs need.

I won't get excited until it's official....but if Pop & RC can convince him he's has a chance to get a championship ring then the Spurs would have addressed 2 of 3 main needs in the offseason (Backup PG, Athletic SG/SF and Backup PF/C).

Let's hope Pop & RC...also Tony Parker and Tim Duncan can talk to Maggette and give him their best sales pitch on why he's should become a Spur.

First point to him would be....since 1999 (we have gone at least to the Western Conf Semis and won four championships in that period) and this year was a player with one bad ankle away from the NBA Finals.

Second Point to him...it's that his money can go farther here in SA than Philly, Orlando or the Bay Area. (Yes...I know Florida doesn't have State Taxes like TX.)

Third Point to him....this team has great chemistry and is low-maintenance. (One of the main reasons I'm glad I'm a fan in this Spurs Golden Age) No craziness here...like in LA (with you know who!!) or SAC or NY or anywhere else. It's about playing ball and competing for a championship each season.

Hopefully those points will convince him and please add others as well.....

[exstatic]

Lamond Murray

[bdictjames]

A-MA-ZING

Maggette is a heck of a player.

[wildbill2u]

career 31% shooter on 3s. Doesn't seem like a perimeter hotshot to me.

[urunobili]

Sign magette.

fianlly, the spurs gonna geta real nigga.

lets play some brawl.

Fixed

[Marcus Bryant]

Lamond Murray

That's the spirit.

[exstatic]

That's the spirit.

Jus' keepin' it real. This will be our third attempt at a Clipper wing player. Murray never signed or arrived, and we all remember the DA drama.

[mrspurs]

cory is good....but doesnt he spend alot of time on the bench hurt? imo he does

[raspsa]

Orlando Magic may make move for Maggette
Tuesday, July 1, 2008
News / Orlando Sentinel
Los Angeles Clippers guard Corey Maggette told friends over the weekend that he was encouraging the Orlando Magic to make a competitive offer in free agency, allowing him to return to the team where he started his NBA career nine years ago.

Maggette, 28, averaged 22.1 points last season for the Clippers, where he has spent the last eight seasons as a shooting guard/small forward.
----------------------------------------------------

The Florida lifestyle may prove difficult to resist for a guy like Magette. Don't his parents live in Florida? Right now I think Orlando has the edge over SA.

[completely deck]

I think I quit posting in this thread before it was in the double digits, but I've got to say this has been a pretty worthless 31 page read. A lot of hoping and hating going on!

[VaSpursFan]

awesome if it happens...but we know how FA like to use the Spurs to drive up their market value.

if we pull this off, i'd be happy as hell. he's exactly what we need at the 2 guard spot. don't care about his lack of d or that he's not a competent 3 ball shooter. this kid puts pressure on defenses by going to the basket, causing foul trouble and hitting foul shots.

i can't believe this hit 31 pages overnight...crazy!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Ah, the problems that come with being the best Spurs forum on the internets.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bump.

[Solid D]

Jus' keepin' it real. This will be our third attempt at a Clipper wing player. Murray never signed or arrived, and we all remember the DA drama.

exstatic - IIRC, weren't "Animal" Bannister and Tyrone Nesby Clippers when the Spurs made their offers?

(Warning: This is a Google-Free post)

[Ocotillo]

IIRC, Nesby was a Ghost favorite. Maybe he hated the guy too, I just recall a ton of posts about him.

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope the Spurs can get it done

Maggette would be a great fit

[nkdlunch]

WOW. this is great news. Maggette is a beast

[Kindergarten Cop]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/07/02/celtics_extend_offer_to_maggette/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news

Maggette averaged a team-best 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Clippers last season. The 6-foot-6-inch, 228-pounder played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

"It's a great honor to even hear from them," Maggette said. "Hopefully, I can look at some of the options. That's a good option playing for those guys."

Maggette opted out of the final year of his contract that would have paid $7 million next season. While an NBA source said Maggette's management has asked the Clippers for a contract starting at $11 million next season, he said he could be willing to take a pay cut for Boston.

"It's not always about money," Maggette said. "I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/07/02/celtics_extend_offer_to_maggette/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news

Maggette averaged a team-best 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Clippers last season. The 6-foot-6-inch, 228-pounder played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

"It's a great honor to even hear from them," Maggette said. "Hopefully, I can look at some of the options. That's a good option playing for those guys."

Maggette opted out of the final year of his contract that would have paid $7 million next season. While an NBA source said Maggette's management has asked the Clippers for a contract starting at $11 million next season, he said he could be willing to take a pay cut for Boston.

"It's not always about money," Maggette said. "I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win."

Well it looks like he's coming to the right place. :hat

[nkdlunch]

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/395464.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193B3EA2C03450C9486CF956E2C08731372 284831B75F48EF45

[Kindergarten Cop]

Well it looks like he's coming to the right place. :hat

If anything, it dispells the "Maggette will chase the money, not the rings" rumor circulating this forum.:toast

[nkdlunch]

Celtics extend offer to Maggette
Clipper surprised at interest; Posey remains a wanted man
By Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff | July 2, 2008

WALTHAM - At 12:01 a.m. yesterday, Celtics general manager Danny Ainge made an expected call to one of his free agents, swingman James Posey. Not long after, Ainge also placed calls to several other free agents throughout the league, including Clippers forward Corey Maggette.

On the first day of free agency in the NBA, the world champion Celtics, according to an NBA source, made contract offers to both Posey and Maggette. Since Boston, at most, has a mid-level exception available (expected to be about $5.8 million), it would seem doubtful they could land both players. Boston is also scheduled have New Orleans center Chris Andersen in for a visit today.

"I called [Posey] and just talked to him and told him how much we wanted him back," Ainge said. "I told his agent and we had a conversation. So we're still having conversations. After James, yeah, I called a lot of guys just to say that we had interest. But I can't discuss names."

Maggette, however, confirmed yesterday he was one of those names.

"I was very surprised they called. They just came off a championship," said Maggette in a phone interview.

Posey averaged 7.4 points and 4.4 rebounds off the bench last season, his first with Boston. He opted out of the second year of his two-year contract Monday to become an unrestricted free agent.

When asked how soon he hopes to lock in Posey, Ainge said, "I really don't know. My life would be a lot easier if I knew the answer to that."

Neither Ainge nor Posey's agent, Mark Bartelstein, would confirm the Celtics made Posey an offer.

Bartelstein said "a lot of people are interested" in his client. An NBA source said the Wizards are "very interested" in Posey, and could make an offer once their situation with marquee free agent Gilbert Arenas is settled. Other NBA sources said Cleveland and possibly the Clippers and New Orleans also could be interested. Posey was not available for comment.

When asked if Posey would visit other teams, Bartelstein said, "Pose has been all over the league. He doesn't need to make any visits. Everyone in the league knows him."

Maggette averaged a team-best 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Clippers last season. The 6-foot-6-inch, 228-pounder played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

"It's a great honor to even hear from them," Maggette said. "Hopefully, I can look at some of the options. That's a good option playing for those guys."

Maggette opted out of the final year of his contract that would have paid $7 million next season. While an NBA source said Maggette's management has asked the Clippers for a contract starting at $11 million next season, he said he could be willing to take a pay cut for Boston.

"It's not always about money," Maggette said. "I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win."

The Celtics hope to sign a veteran backup point guard to a one-year, veteran minimum contract, an NBA source said. Candidates include Eddie House, who would return for a second season with Boston, Dallas's Tyronn Lue, Orlando's Keyon Dooling, Miami's Jason Williams, and Chicago's Chris Duhon. Lue, a 10-year veteran, played for Rivers in Orlando and is good friends with Celtics forward Kevin Garnett, but he said he hasn't contacted either since the offer was made to his agent, Andy Miller.

"I just want to play for a winning team," said Lue in a phone interview. "Boston is definitely a winning team. I'm trying to see what the best fit is for me."

The Celtics have had interest in Andersen since he was reinstated by the NBA and the players union March 4 after serving a two-year ban for violating the league's substance abuse policy. The athletic 6-11, 228-pounder returned to his former team, the Hornets, and played in five games.

Andersen, who has also played for the Nuggets, has averaged 5 points, 4.7 rebounds, and 1.3 blocks over his six-year career.

The Celtics also have other free agents in guards Tony Allen and Sam Cassell, forward-center P.J. Brown (who is expected to retire), and center Scot Pollard. Cassell has said he hopes to play one more season with Boston before becoming an assistant coach with the Celtics in 2009-10.

Allen became an unrestricted free agent Monday when the Celtics declined to make him a qualifying offer.

Ainge, however, said Boston could still bring him back. When asked if the addition of draft picks J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker would affect Boston's interest in Allen, Ainge said, "Time will tell. Those guys haven't done anything yet."

"I had a good conversation with Tony and I assured Tony that this doesn't necessarily close the book for him here," Ainge said. "We like Tony. He's just moving forward in his career. If things might not work out with James or other free agents, Tony would be a guy that we'd be interested in returning to the Celtics."

[timvp]

"It's not always about money," Maggette said. "I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win."Nice :tu

That gives the Spurs hope because not only can they win a championship, they have a need for a starter who can take on scoring load. Maggette could win and put up stats with the Spurs.

Still a longshot but maybe it's possible. :smokin




P.S.

The Celtics need to kindly GTFO and concentrate on re-signing Posey.

[hater]

I agree with longshot.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Still a longshot but maybe it's possible. :smokin


I agree with longshot.

I'm cautiously skeptical myself, but why would you think it is a "longshot"? We likely will not be in a bidding war and he has stated that he wants to win and get back to the playoffs. I'd say the Spurs have just as much, if not more of a chance to offer him that than the other teams vying for his services.

[DaDakota]

Houston will offer the MLE too, AND.....a nice $2 million a year Chinese shoe deal.

Come to H-Town Maggette......you would start here....

;)

DD

[lotr1trekkie]

Comes down to if Maggette wants to go deep into the playoffs or just make more $$$. If he takes the MLE that is still $16,000 a day all year. More down the line. It may seem like chump change to Baron Davis's $35,000 per day but hopefully Maggette is smarter than Latrell and his family. Of all the teams mentioned the Spurs offer the best shot at a ring in the next 2 years. Philly, Orlando, GS---what would the Las Vegas odds be on them in the next 2 years? 200 to 1! If we did sign Maggette the Spurs become co-favorites with the Celtics to win it all. That being said MOST NBA players have too much Latrell in them like Speedy and S. Jackson.

[hater]

Celtics offer better shot at a ring

[Hook Dem]

Houston will offer the MLE too, AND.....a nice $2 million a year Chinese shoe deal.

Come to H-Town Maggette......you would start here....

;)

DD

H town will find that it does not pay to fuck with the Spurs!:flipoff

[Marcus Bryant]

Houston will offer the MLE too, AND.....a nice $2 million a year Chinese shoe deal.

Come to H-Town Maggette......you would start here....

;)

DD

And leave the playoffs in the 1st round. Man, it's funny watching Rocket fan hang all over the Spurs' nuts these days.

[Bartleby]

Celtics offer better shot at a ring

Maybe, but not if Posey bolts for more money, which is beginning to look likely.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Celtics offer better shot at a ring

Yeah, but Maggette is the Spurs' number one target - and Boston's main priority is Posey. San Antonio would likely be able to offer a starting role and more minutes. I'm not saying that Boston is not "in the running" - but I'm not ready to declare that they are that far ahead of us in terms of getting him. Heck, two GMs have said that we are the front-runners. ;)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

And leave the playoffs in the 1st round. Man, it's funny watching Rocket fan hang all over the Spurs' nuts these days.

:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm cautiously skeptical myself, but why would you think it is a "longshot"? We likely will not be in a bidding war and he has stated that he wants to win and get back to the playoffs. I'd say the Spurs have just as much, if not more of a chance to offer him that than the other teams vying for his services.

Well, it's a bidding war, but the Spurs can offer the max that will be available to him and they can offer him a starting spot with 35+ minutes a night. And a good shot at winning a championship.

[MavDynasty]

damnit,if you guys get Magette your guaranteed at least 2 more rings.

[MoSpur]

I'm holding on to faith. I love the Clippers and my favorite player has always been Corey. If he were to come to the Spurs, I would be very happy. There are only a few teams that can offer more money and none of those teams can really offer a chance to win a championship.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Well, it's a bidding war, but the Spurs can offer the max that will be available to him and they can offer him a starting spot with 35+ minutes a night. And a good shot at winning a championship.

I was referring to the financial aspect - since our ceiling is set at the same limit as everyone else (with the exception of 3 other teams - 2 of which are not really considered realistic destinations) we would not have to worry about being out-bidded (that is, if we were willing to use the entire MLE).

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Come on. I seriously dont see this happening. I would be quite happy if it does cause we can definitely put scorers on the floor at any time. Manu would come off the bench and do his stuff. Maggette is young. Only 28 so give him a year on our system and he will play D. Pop has proved that he can make anyone play D. Finley and Barry are good examples.

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

[Marcus Bryant]

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

When? The Spurs aren't going to face the lux tax this summer. They have a significant number of contracts already which will expire in 2010.

A MLE contract isn't some great burden.

[T Park]

Celtics offer better shot at a ring


Fail.

[Kindergarten Cop]

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

I don't understand why you would think this. The Spurs have proven over the past few seasons that they are willing to go over the Salary Cap to bring in players. The goal that they have had is to remain under the Luxury Tax Threshold, and they would still be considerably under that with the addition of Maggette at the full MLE.

[ss1986v2]

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
why would they have to? they wont be over the tax line, so there would be no need to cut payroll. what have they done in the past that would indicate they would be slashing payroll when not in tax trouble?

[bigdog]

Come on. I seriously dont see this happening. I would be quite happy if it does cause we can definitely put scorers on the floor at any time. Manu would come off the bench and do his stuff. Maggette is young. Only 28 so give him a year on our system and he will play D. Pop has proved that he can make anyone play D. Finley and Barry are good examples.

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

Only reason they would do that is if they were in danger of going over the luxury tax. They've been over the cap, and as long as they're under the luxury tax, they will sign players.

[ATRAIN]

IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!

[TheMadHatter]

He didn't say he wanted a ring, he just said he was tired of losing. This means any of the contenders who are offering him the MLE are fair game IMHO.

ORL seems like the best fit for him. Their core is all under 30 and other than BOS there really aren't any dominant teams in the EC anymore. One could argue that his chances of making it to the Finals is greater in the EC than it would be if he stayed in the loaded WC.

[Kindergarten Cop]

IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!

Kurt Thomas

[remingtonbo2001]

I'm not reading through 28 pages, but has the Derek Anderson tactic been discussed?

[Marcus Bryant]

IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!

Well, they'd have their LLE ($1.9 mil) and the the Beno trade exception. Perhaps one of these younger swingmen (Hayes, Diarrhea, Evans, etc). Maybe they replace Barry with Giricek, which if you were going to replace Barry with a similar player is about as close as you can get to a real replacement for him. Maybe they sign Javtokas with the LLE and move Bonner for Delfino in a S&T.

[T Park]

Well, they'd have their LLE ($1.9 mil) and the the Beno trade exception. Perhaps one of these younger swingmen (Hayes, Diarrhea, Evans, etc). Maybe they replace Barry with Giricek, which if you were going to replace Barry with a similar player is about as close as you can get to a real replacement for him. Maybe they sign Javtokas with the LLE and move Bonner for Delfino in a S&T.

If Barry were to leave, and you replace him with Giricek, thats about as close to replacing him with a different skill set as you can get.


I think personally the Javtokas bridge is burned, but if it can be crossed, then bring it on.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm not reading through 28 pages, but has the Derek Anderson tactic been discussed?

That's basically what Maggette to SA would be, though it would be with the summer of 2010 in mind instead of 2009. Spurs can offer a 3 year MLE contract with a player option after the 2nd year. That would guarantee Maggette close to $18 mil plus give him the opportunity to opt out in a summer in which half of the NBA will have the cap room necessary to sign a max level free agent. The Spurs could then give him a pay raise as they will likely have max level cap room.

If Maggette signs a MLE contract I don't see him taking a full 5 year one. He'll want a short contract which will allow him to opt out in a more advantageous summer for free agents, which is what 2010 is shaping up to be.

[Kindergarten Cop]

:lmao the guy has rotted his entire career away on the Clippers. Do you really think he cares about getting a ring? The man wants a payday.


It's not always about money. I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win.


He didn't say he wanted a ring, he just said he was tired of losing. This means any of the contenders who are offering him the MLE are fair game IMHO.

[HarlemHeat37]

this would be the PERFECT signing..

let's get the negatives out of the way..

defense is NOT an issue..our defense has been great every year, even this year, where an average Parker and Ginobili played big minutes, and a TERRIBLE Finley started..we still have the system, and we still have Tim Duncan/Pop..that makes our D..Maggette is even less of a concern, because he's more athletic than any of those other liabilities we have..he has POTENTIAL defensively..

his shooting % is not a concern..he's gonna be playing with Tim Duncan, Parker and Manu, which is more talent than he's ever dreamed of playing with..

on to the positives..

this would be PERFECT..not only would Mags give us another scorer, but he gives us the best kind..a slasher..instead of relying on the 3-point shot as much as we do, we would have somebody that can kill the defense with his drive..he can play with the best post passer in the NBA feeding him on his slashing..

he CAN shoot..he's more athletic than any swingman we've had in a while(White doesn't count)..

I'm not getting my hopes up though..this would be huge..

[hater]

Fail.

care to explain why?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

Not really. The Spurs have done so in the past to get under the luxury tax threshold. They've got some wiggle room this summer in that regard, so it's not a concern.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

care to explain why?

Because two of the next three years are even numbered, which means two rings for him if he comes to SA :lobt2:

[T Park]

care to explain why?

Easy.

The Spurs are better than said Celtics team.

Just because they didn't make it to the Finals doesn't change that.

If Maggette signs with the Spurs, it pretty much sews up rings 5 and 6.

Boston could still stiff against Atlanta or someone else.

[TheMadHatter]

If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.

[hater]

Easy.

The Spurs are better than said Celtics team.

Just because they didn't make it to the Finals doesn't change that.

If Maggette signs with the Spurs, it pretty much sews up rings 5 and 6.

Boston could still stiff against Atlanta or someone else.

fail. Celtics are currently best team in the NBA. face it.

they beat same Lakers we couldn't.

[T Park]

fail. Celtics are currently best team in the NBA. face it.

they beat same Lakers we couldn't.


I won't face it because its not true.

Nice defeatist attitude though.

[T Park]

If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.


laker fan IS scared :lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.

How is going from $7M/yr for a perrenial loser to $6M/yr for a winning team and a chance to win a ring considered "backfiring"? $6M/yr = peanuts? :wow

Keep in mind, only 3 teams can offer more than the MLE - you seem to keep forgetting that.

[hater]

I won't face it because its not true.

Nice defeatist attitude though.

:lmao @ ur delusions.