Yahoo: Spurs front-runners in race for Maggette

[SenorSpur]

Agreed... he's one of the worst and most wrong analysts at ESPN.

Plus he's one of those jock-sniffing, east-coast, media blowhards that wouldn't know objectivity if it crawled into bed with him. He can't see events in the league outside of the east coast.

[bigdog]

Don't buy into anything Chris Broussard says. He "thinks" that's whats going to happen. He's one of the last guys from ESPN to go to for any kind of inside information.

Although, Maggette could very well be waiting for the Philly situation to play out, I'd rather hear it from a more reliable source, and not Broussard.

[Soul_Patch]

I honestly trust local sources more than i do some ESPN nutjob...News 4 quoted him as being about winning and not money...i unfortunately now have my hopes up!

[FromWayDowntown]

For whatever it's worth, Stein is reporting that sources have already established that Brand shunned the Warriors' offer:


One source said the Warriors then made a lucrative but unsuccessful free-agent pitch to Brand on Tuesday as opposed to resuming talks with Davis.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3470016

[T Park]

I would have thought my measurements would have said enough.

To put it clearly, Maggette is too short and small to guard Dirk.


You have never watched basketball in the past couple years apparently.

[T Park]

For whatever it's worth, Stein is reporting that sources have already established that Brand shunned the Warriors' offer:



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3470016


That might speed up things a tad.

[Marcus Bryant]

The quote paraphrased above and assigned to Maggette came from a Boston paper, IIRC.

[DynastyBuilder]

Well Rockets.com is lobbying for Maggette... Link (http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_Free_Agency_Preview-276515-34.html)

[Marcus Bryant]

Well Rockets.com is lobbying for Maggette... Link (http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_Free_Agency_Preview-276515-34.html)

Rockets fans think it's still the mid-90s.

[T Park]

Rockets fans think Matt Bullard is a golden cow as well.

[FromWayDowntown]

Well Rockets.com is lobbying for Maggette... Link (http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_Free_Agency_Preview-276515-34.html)

Is Darryl Morey's acquisition philosophy to just target anyone that he believes the Spurs are targeting? It's beginning to seem that way.

[T Park]

Morey reads Spurstalk.com apparently.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

man i hope the warriors dont go crazy and thrown decent money at JR :drunk

It sounds like they could do what orlando did last year, drastically overpay for the sake of getting a decent FA :lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

Don Harris just quoted Magette as saying something along the lines of "this time its not about money, ive been in the league for 9 years, and im tired of losing. Im ready to start winning!"


Good sign for SA's chances i think....based on if that is a real quote or not...

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/07/02/celtics_extend_offer_to_maggette/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news

Maggette averaged a team-best 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds for the Clippers last season. The 6-foot-6-inch, 228-pounder played for Celtics coach Doc Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.

"It's a great honor to even hear from them," Maggette said. "Hopefully, I can look at some of the options. That's a good option playing for those guys."

Maggette opted out of the final year of his contract that would have paid $7 million next season. While an NBA source said Maggette's management has asked the Clippers for a contract starting at $11 million next season, he said he could be willing to take a pay cut for Boston.

"It's not always about money," Maggette said. "I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win."

[exstatic]

damn i'm getting kinda frustrated and a little nervous that we will wait on Maggette's decision and miss out on other good MLE guys... damn this sux!!! :depressed :pctoss

EVERYONE is waiting on the outcomes of the teams with cap room, including the other MLE free agents. You think JR Smith is going to sign an offer sheet until the ink is officially dry in Memphis, Philly, and Golden State?

[montgod]

You have never watched basketball in the past couple years apparently.

Obviously... since Maggette has never been known as a defensive stalwart especially against a 7fter when he is clearly 6'6.

By the way, since I haven't watched any basketball, I checked Clipper games vs the Mavs this last year and Dirk did his usual damage of averaging around 25pts and 8rbds among his many other stats.

Also, in passing, I would think that a 6'10 Tim Thomas played defense on him and not Corey Maggette.

Apparently, you must be watching a different brand of basketball... WNBA maybe?

[T Park]

Obviously... since Maggette has never been known as a defensive stalwart especially against a 7fter when he is clearly 6'6.

By the way, since I haven't watched any basketball, I checked Clipper games vs the Mavs this last year and Dirk did his usual damage of averaging around 25pts and 8rbds among his many other stats.

Also, in passing, I would think that a 6'10 Tim Thomas played defense on him and not Corey Maggette.

Apparently, you must be watching a different brand of basketball... WNBA maybe?


No, but apparently you never watched the 2007 NBA Playoffs.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I would be simultaneously shocked and thrilled if Maggette ends up here.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm pretty certain that Maggette's appeal to the Spurs has very little to do with defending Nowitzki.

[Juanobili]

Corey, please sign with us and I promise I'll buy a jersey

[Brutalis]

I would be simultaneously shocked and thrilled if Maggette ends up here.

[T Park]

I'm pretty certain that Maggette's appeal to the Spurs has very little to do with defending Nowitzki.

Its an added bonus.

Like marrying the hottest chick in the world, then finding out her dad left her 100 mill.

[T Park]

I would be simultaneously shocked and thrilled if Maggette ends up here.

I think after the past season the Spurs had, we deserve it.

[T Park]

Corey, please sign with us and I promise I'll buy a jersey


Shit, do I need to even say it? :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Is Darryl Morey's acquisition philosophy to just target anyone that he believes the Spurs are targeting? It's beginning to seem that way.


No kidding.


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/marty_burns/04/25/morey.rockets/t1_morey.jpg

"Oh yes, I have this magical stat box which tells me who to sign."

"Hey Dennis, who are you guys talking to?"



http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog.jpg

"Maggette. We would like Barry and Horry back."



http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/marty_burns/04/25/morey.rockets/t1_morey.jpg

"Wait, I didn't get that last name (scribble)."



http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog.jpg

"Horry."


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/marty_burns/04/25/morey.rockets/t1_morey.jpg

"While I got you, what should I do about Landry?"


http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog.jpg

"Talk shit about his knee in the media and try to drive down his price."


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/marty_burns/04/25/morey.rockets/t1_morey.jpg

"K. Cool. Thanks. XOXOOXOXO - Darryl"

[T Park]

:lmao

[Juanobili]

Shit, do I need to even say it? :lol

haha I think we all will buy a jersey, huh? :lol

[bigdog]

Fucking classic.

[T Park]

haha I think we all will buy a jersey, huh? :lol

If you had been around here a while, I get every jersey who plays for the Spurs, I get ribbed about it.

I was just heading that off :lol

But yeah, as soon as it would be announced he agreed and said what his number will be, I would order that shiznit up quick.

[Juanobili]

If you had been around here a while, I get every jersey who plays for the Spurs, I get ribbed about it.

I was just heading that off :lol

But yeah, as soon as it would be announced he agreed and said what his number will be, I would order that shiznit up quick.

That's cool. Now that I got a job, I'll work on my jersey collection lol.

where do you get your jerseys, man?

[FromWayDowntown]

No kidding.

Then there's this:




http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog.jpg

We're intently interested in selecting Nicholas Batum. Really. In fact, we've never even heard of George Hill.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/marty_burns/04/25/morey.rockets/t1_morey.jpg

Really? Hmmm. Where's that damned card I have to send to the commissioner? And how do you spell "Batum"?

[Marcus Bryant]

How about?

http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/content_lindseyblog.jpg

"Darryl, I wish I could quit you."


http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0605/nba_g_popovich_275.jpg

"I wish you could too."

[angelbelow]

im still looking for a silver retro ginobili jersey, wheres a good place online to find one of those?

[FromWayDowntown]

Its an added bonus.

Like marrying the hottest chick in the world, then finding out her dad left her 100 mill.

Yeah, I don't think the Spurs expect to find that bonus, either. Getting Maggette has absolutely nothing to do with stopping Dirk Nowitzki. I think it's completely unrealistic to think that Maggette would ever play that role for the Spurs, if he can be bothered to sign in San Antonio.

Maggette has about as much chance of effectively defending Dirk as I do.

[bigdog]

That's cool. Now that I got a job, I'll work on my jersey collection lol.

where do you get your jerseys, man?

NBA Store. you can get any jersey on there. just go to the teams' personalized jersey and they usually have a scrollbox of every player on the team.

[ShoogarBear]

Maggette has about as much chance of effectively defending Dirk as I do.

Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man.

[T Park]

:lol

I feel a tad bad for Lindsey.

[Leetonidas]

If Maggette truly wants to start winning, then SA should be his priority. Coming here would make us automatic favorites for next year. With a core of Duncan, Parker, Ginboili, Maggette, Mahinmi, Hill, and Udoka, the Spurs are poised to keep their window open for a few more years and quite possibly win a few more titles.

You want that ring, you need to come here.

[T Park]

Yeah, I don't think the Spurs expect to find that bonus, either. Getting Maggette has absolutely nothing to do with stopping Dirk Nowitzki. I think it's completely unrealistic to think that Maggette would ever play that role for the Spurs, if he can be bothered to sign in San Antonio.

Maggette has about as much chance of effectively defending Dirk as I do.


I disagree.

[Kori Ellis]

:lmao @ the thought of Maggette guarding Dirk. Maggette is like 6'5. Not what you would call a "long small forward."

[T Park]

Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man.

Ever laugh at something for a long time and no idea why?

After reading that, I had that moment :lol

[T Park]

:lmao @ the thought of Maggette guarding Dirk. Maggette is like 6'5. Not what you would call a "long small forward."


Maggette guarding Dirk >>>>>> Parker

[Kori Ellis]

Maggette guarding Dirk >>>>>> Parker

Parker isn't assigned to guard Dirk. He just does it on some switches sometimes. Pretty much anyone on the Spurs roster is better than Corey Maggette at guarding Dirk, outside the point guards.

[bigdog]

Chris Sheridan was just on ESPNews, and he laughed at the idea of the Spurs being front-runners to get Maggette, saying that Maggette is the best UFA left on the market, and teams with cap space would be more of a threat to get him before any team offering the MLE.

Then he said that if those teams choose other players, then he would have to settle on the MLE, and basically decide where to go.

[FromWayDowntown]

Bold talk for a one-eyed fat man.

My coke-bottle glasses don't deprive me of an eye, man.

And quit insulting fat people. . . .

[Marcus Bryant]

Chris Sheridan was just on ESPNews, and he laughed at the idea of the Spurs being front-runners to get Maggette, saying that Maggette is the best UFA left on the market, and teams with cap space would be more of a threat to get him before any team offering the MLE.

Then he said that if those teams choose other players, then he would have to settle on the MLE, and basically decide where to go.

Well, of course. Maybe those teams with cap room have other plans.

The assumption will be there until proven wrong.

[T Park]

Chris Sheridan was just on ESPNews, and he laughed at the idea of the Spurs being front-runners to get Maggette, saying that Maggette is the best UFA left on the market, and teams with cap space would be more of a threat to get him before any team offering the MLE.

Then he said that if those teams choose other players, then he would have to settle on the MLE, and basically decide where to go.


They laughed at Michael Finley going to SA as well.


I like how the ESPN guys are laughing @ inside sources of the league like they are no one.

They could be, but I'm just suprised at the arrogance ESPN's writers are showing.

[T Park]

Parker isn't assigned to guard Dirk. He just does it on some switches sometimes. Pretty much anyone on the Spurs roster is better than Corey Maggette at guarding Dirk, outside the point guards.

Maggette >>>> Bonner, George Hill

[Juanobili]

Damn, it'd be cool if I could get a customized swingman jersey. Can anyone convince me replica jerseys aren't total pieces of crap?

[ShoogarBear]

Ever laugh at something for a long time and no idea why?

After reading that, I had that moment :lol

_3i3FSrvMiE

[T Park]

Damn, it'd be cool if I could get a customized swingman jersey. Can anyone convince me replica jerseys aren't total pieces of crap?

You won't from me.

I can't stand replicas.

[T Park]

_3i3FSrvMiE

The Duke.

Niiiiiice

:lmao

That was hilarious there too

Minutes later still laughing.

The reaction by Wayne is even funnier :lmao

[bigdog]

They laughed at Michael Finley going to SA as well.


I like how the ESPN guys are laughing @ inside sources of the league like they are no one.

They could be, but I'm just suprised at the arrogance ESPN's writers are showing.

Would have been great if, as soon as Sheridan started laughing, ESPN announced that the Spurs agreed to sign Corey Maggette:lol

[Juanobili]

You won't from me.

I can't stand replicas.

so where do you get them!? haha

I'm assuming you can't get swingman's for ALL players?

[montgod]

No, but apparently you never watched the 2007 NBA Playoffs.

Again, you must be watching the WNBA playoffs since the Clippers didn't even play in the playoffs in 2007.

[Ocotillo]

Opinion piece but it's from an Orlando writer.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/07/the-problem-wit.html

Sure, the Magic would love to sign free agent shooting guard Corey Maggette and plug him into a lineup with Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu.

This would be terrific if the games were cut to 30 minutes and nobody would ever get injured.

The problem --- even if Maggette would take less and accept the midlevel exception (worth about $6 mill per) --- is that the Magic would have one of the weakest benches in the league.

Because if Maggette would be so generous, the only way the Magic could sign more players and not creep into the punitive luxury tax is offer them the league minimum. You'd have maybe four or five players making the $1.5 million to $1.8 million minimum.

Do you know what you get for that these days?

They have just 10 players under contract now --- two are Marcin Gortat and James Augustine --- and are scraping to find bargains to fill out the roster. It's why GM Otis Smith wants to split the midlevel between two players. He needs depth.

If he can get Keyon Dooling and Chris Duhon with it, he'd be happy. Call it a great offseason. Heck, maybe it's either Dooling or Duhon and a shooting guard.
Speaking of shooting guard, I'm not sure where Smith is going to find a shooting guard any better than Mo Evans out there.

I'm not even sure, with Keith Bogans, JJ Redick and rookie Courtney Lee, why the Magic are going after one without dealing somebody.

[angelbelow]

espn is only reliable because they have money, their analyst are jokes.

[T Park]

so where do you get them!? haha

I'm assuming you can't get swingman's for ALL players?


I get customized authentics.

A little pricier, than the swingman, but worth it.

[T Park]

Again, you must be watching the WNBA playoffs since the Clippers didn't even play in the playoffs in 2007.

Ugh

Im talking about how the Warriors guarded the Mavericks!!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Opinion piece but it's from an Orlando writer.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/07/the-problem-wit.html

Sure, the Magic would love to sign free agent shooting guard Corey Maggette and plug him into a lineup with Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu.

This would be terrific if the games were cut to 30 minutes and nobody would ever get injured.

The problem --- even if Maggette would take less and accept the midlevel exception (worth about $6 mill per) --- is that the Magic would have one of the weakest benches in the league.

Because if Maggette would be so generous, the only way the Magic could sign more players and not creep into the punitive luxury tax is offer them the league minimum. You'd have maybe four or five players making the $1.5 million to $1.8 million minimum.

Do you know what you get for that these days?

They have just 10 players under contract now --- two are Marcin Gortat and James Augustine --- and are scraping to find bargains to fill out the roster. It's why GM Otis Smith wants to split the midlevel between two players. He needs depth.

If he can get Keyon Dooling and Chris Duhon with it, he'd be happy. Call it a great offseason. Heck, maybe it's either Dooling or Duhon and a shooting guard.
Speaking of shooting guard, I'm not sure where Smith is going to find a shooting guard any better than Mo Evans out there.

I'm not even sure, with Keith Bogans, JJ Redick and rookie Courtney Lee, why the Magic are going after one without dealing somebody.

Nice.

[T Park]

Would have been great if, as soon as Sheridan started laughing, ESPN announced that the Spurs agreed to sign Corey Maggette:lol

Perfect reaction?


"Well son of a bitch"

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So the Magic are not interested as much?

[T Park]

Looks like that way.

Down goes another :smokin

[bigdog]

Perfect reaction?


"Well son of a bitch"

even better.

"FUCK":lol

[T Park]

even better.

"FUCK":lol


Well it is owned by Disney, I would think he would have the knowledge to keep it PG 13 :lol

[samikeyp]

so where do you get them!? haha

I'm assuming you can't get swingman's for ALL players?

If the jersey exists....TPark can get it. :toast

[T Park]

If the jersey exists....TPark can get it. :toast

About the one thing I'm good for :lmao

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

There are too many teams with more money than us interested in Maggette. The more the time goes by, the less likely he will be a Spur....

There's not many teams, there's three, and all have other priorities it appears.

[angelbelow]

So the Magic are not interested as much?

i think the article makes a great point, if the magics want a super starting lineup with no bench, they'll do this, but if they want an actual team they should really refrain.

im having a hard time deciding which route though, cause they did sign lewis to that ridiculous contract, and hedo will end to be resigned soon too.

[T Park]

Yeah seems like the Magic have other priorities.

Reading that article, I can see them being a suitor for one Kurt Thomas unfortunately. They tried trading for him

[T Park]

i think the article makes a great point, if the magics want a super starting lineup with no bench, they'll do this, but if they want an actual team they should really refrain.

im having a hard time deciding which route though, cause they did sign lewis to that ridiculous contract, and hedo will end to be resigned soon too.

Yeah, Hedo's contract has got to be at an end here..

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yeah seems like the Magic have other priorities.

Reading that article, I can see them being a suitor for one Kurt Thomas unfortunately. They tried trading for him

Wouldn't Kurt also be bringing in near MLE type contract as well?

[T Park]

Wouldn't Kurt also be bringing in near MLE type contract as well?

Close to, if not all of it, yeah.

We talked about a nice resigning of him being at 2 years 10 12 million.

Thats the MLE right there.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Close to, if not all of it, yeah.

We talked about a nice resigning of him being at 2 years 10 12 million.

Thats the MLE right there.

Yeah, so wouldn't that repel the Magic's interest in him?

[lotr1trekkie]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Maggette become the starter a shooting guard? That allows Pop to sub Manu based on strategy not that the #2 needs off the court in 4 minutes. If not Maggette[or whomever we sign] who would start at shooting guard?

[Kindergarten Cop]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Maggette become the starter a shooting guard? That allows Pop to sub Manu based on strategy not that the #2 needs off the court in 4 minutes. If not Maggette[or whomever we sign] who would start at shooting guard?

Either Bowen or Maggette could start at the 2 - but I'm guessing it would likely be Maggette. If Bowen were to start at the 2, Maggette would start at the 3 - so either way, he's in the starting lineup.

[T Park]

Yeah, so wouldn't that repel the Magic's interest in him?

Common sense would say yes.

[T Park]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Maggette become the starter a shooting guard? That allows Pop to sub Manu based on strategy not that the #2 needs off the court in 4 minutes. If not Maggette[or whomever we sign] who would start at shooting guard?


Yeah Maggette would start right away.

I can see though manu or Udoka coming in for Bowen first.

Maggette is gonna get heavy minutes, and try to lighten the load off of Bowen and Ginobili.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Common sense would say yes.

So they would be left trying to bring together scraps, while the Spurs reel in Maggette and Thomas. :king

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Where are people getting this idea that Bowen would start at the 2. I don't even think I have ever seen him play the 2 since he has been here. Jyust because hes matched up defensively on a 2 doesnt mean shit and a lineup starting Bowen and Udoka isnt going to score much at all.

[TheMadHatter]

Maggette "has told friends that he hoped the Magic would make him a competitive offer, welcoming a return to Orlando."

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700239822,00.html?pg=1

Looks like Utah is interested too.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Damn, 42 pages of speculation in 2 days. :lol

[T Park]

He wants Orlando to be interested, but it seems they aren't.

At least, thats my poor reading comprehension tells me.

[Tully365]

If the Spurs land Delfino (assuming the report that they've made him an offer is true), he could start at SG with Maggette at SF and Bowen coming off the bench like Posey did for the Celts. Delfino's probably a defensive upgrade over Finley, which would offset Maggette's inferiority to Bowen in that department. Bowen & Ginobili coming off the bench together would be pretty powerful.... speculation....

[bigdog]

People read too much into the fact that he told his friends he wants Orlando to make a push for him. There has never really been anybody that has evidence that the Magic are actually interested. They seem like they're looking to resign their own guys, and possible a big man.

[TheMadHatter]

ORL would have to be stupid not to pursue Maggette. Quality over quantity. Yes their bench is weak, but when you have an opportunity to improve your core you do it regardless. Worry about the bench later.

I shouldn't expect better from Otis though, he did give LA Trevor Ariza for Mo Evans and Brian freaking Cook :lmao

[baseline bum]

Close to, if not all of it, yeah.

We talked about a nice resigning of him being at 2 years 10 12 million.

Thats the MLE right there.

We have Bird Rights to re-sign Thomas without going into the luxury tax (the team's somewhere around $18 million or so under the tax threshold).

[T Park]

Delfino would come off the bench.

Not Bowen.


Bowen won't come off the bench under Pop unless hes got one leg, and even then he could probobly out hop defend every mfer on the planet.

[T Park]

We have Bird Rights to re-sign Thomas without going into the luxury tax (the team's somewhere around $18 million or so under the tax threshold).


Yes they do!!!!

BUT, do the Spurs think hes worth MORE than the MLE though.

Or for KT, would just matching the MLE, be enough?

[bigdog]

If the Spurs land Delfino (assuming the report that they've made him an offer is true), he could start at SG with Maggette at SF and Bowen coming off the bench like Posey did for the Celts. Delfino's probably a defensive upgrade over Finley, which would offset Maggette's inferiority to Bowen in that department. Bowen & Ginobili coming off the bench together would be pretty powerful.... speculation....

Ginobili coming off the bench, yes. Bowen coming off the bench, no.

[xtremesteven33]

potentially.....

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Delfino/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill

wow

[Ocotillo]

Yes they do!!!!

BUT, do the Spurs think hes worth MORE than the MLE though.

Or for KT, would just matching the MLE, be enough?

I would think the issue of matching an MLE offer would not be the dollars but the years. An opponent truly wanting him likely would see that as a improving their chances of getting him what with the Spurs having so many expiring 2010 contracts.

[T Park]

potentially.....

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Delfino/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill

wow


I started to cry when I read that.

Please, god?

[Tully365]

I started to cry when I read that.

Please, god?

I feel the same way.... it's almost too good to believe. Plus Hairston... the last time I saw him, he outplayed Chase Budinger badly.

Lord hear our prayers!

[xtremesteven33]

If thomas starts...

well have the freakin argentinian team commin off the bench!!!

[Tully365]

potentially.....

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Delfino/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill

wow

The naysayers would say the Spurs are TOO young and TOO athletic!

[xtremesteven33]

The naysayers would say the Spurs are TOO young and TOO athletic!

:rollin

[Tully365]

If thomas starts...

well have the freakin argentinian team commin off the bench!!!

All wearing Silver medals around their necks...

[Tully365]

My degree of happiness is reaching the Drum-set-for-christmas-in-the-fifth-grade level, The Made-out-with-my-best-friend's-sister-in-a-tent-in-their-back-yard level... yes, it's that high...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Where are people getting this idea that Bowen would start at the 2. I don't even think I have ever seen him play the 2 since he has been here. Jyust because hes matched up defensively on a 2 doesnt mean shit and a lineup starting Bowen and Udoka isnt going to score much at all.

Where did anyone say Udoka would start? People are talking about Bowen starting IF we get Maggette.

[completely deck]

potentially.....

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Delfino/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill

wow

I came. :wow

edit: Wait, you forgot Vaughn.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm pissing in my pants at the thought of Maggette on the Spurs, so I'll make up retarded speculation.

[T Park]

WIth the news the Spurs have put out an offer to Delfino and Roger Mason.

It makes me wonder if the Spurs are even going after Maggette.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I shouldn't expect better from Otis though, he did give LA Trevor Ariza for Mo Evans and Brian freaking Cook :lmao

No offense, but what exactly has Ariza done that makes that look like a laughable one-sided trade?

[misterx91578]

All wearing Silver medals around their necks...

gold from 2004

[ATXSPUR]

WIth the news the Spurs have put out an offer to Delfino and Roger Mason.

It makes me wonder if the Spurs are even going after Maggette.

They would be foolish not to.

[SPURSGOAT]

The naysayers would say the Spurs are TOO young and TOO athletic!

:lmao:lmao:rollin

[rj215]

They would be foolish not to.

I'm sure the Spurs FO is putting out offers to a bunch of free agents to cover their bases in case Maggette makes the mistake of signing with the Magic.

Has anyone heard any news on JR lately? Seems like he feel off the radar after Maggette opted out.

[tav1]

WIth the news the Spurs have put out an offer to Delfino and Roger Mason.

It makes me wonder if the Spurs are even going after Maggette.

The Spurs contacted Mason, that doesn't mean they necessarily offered him anything. I think the Maggette thing is legit, because of so many people reporting it and his agent not denying it. I think the Delfino thing is legit to because of his agent looking over the contract.

I'd guess that the Spurs have contacted 6 or 7 players, and it sounds like they made at least two offers, one MLE, one LLE.

[TheMadHatter]

Mad speculation is expecting the Magic to pass up on a core player they need in Maggette to sign Chris Duhon and a shitty backup C. For this price nearly everyone will at least put out feelers. Don't be so naive.

[bigdog]

Mad speculation is expecting the Magic to pass up on a core player they need in Maggette to sign Chris Duhon and a shitty backup C. For this price nearly everyone will at least put out feelers. Don't be so naive.

That backup C could very well be Kurt Thomas. They've shown interest in him in the past, also at the trade deadline when the Spurs got him. I think they might split the MLE between Thomas and Duhon, that is, if Duhon doesn't sign with New York.

[DPG21920]

So how true do we know these supposed offers to Mason and Delfino are? I mean I have not heard a legit source say so. If that is true, even without Maggette, I would be mad because I do not think those players address the needs the Spurs have. I wish we knew if the Spurs made an offer to Maggette... I mean I know that getting Maggette is a long shot or even J.R. Smith, and I would be happy with much smaller signings, but not Mason and Delfino.

[Ocotillo]

Another opinion on the subject, this time Charley Rosen.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8305382?MSNHPHMA


Used to be that Maggette always played hard at both ends of the court, but he's succumbed to the temptations of being in Star City too long. Clearly, Maggette needs (and will get) a change of scenery.

San Antonio would be the best landing spot for both him and the Spurs. A new environment of superior coaching, championship-caliber players, and truly devoted fans would undoubtedly rekindle Maggette's passion for the game. At the same time, his youthful talents would immediately spur San Antonio to recapture the rapture.

[bigdog]

So how true do we know these supposed offers to Mason and Delfino are? I mean I have not heard a legit source say so. If that is true, even without Maggette, I would be mad because I do not think those players address the needs the Spurs have. I wish we knew if the Spurs made an offer to Maggette... I mean I know that getting Maggette is a long shot or even J.R. Smith, and I would be happy with much smaller signings, but not Mason and Delfino.

They haven't offered anything to Mason, they've just been in contact with him.
As for Delfino, they've reportedly offered a 2 year deal, but we're not sure if it's for the LLE or MLE.

[MI21]

Haven't read through this, but Utah are interested?

That's not good, from memory he signed with Utah once before only to be matched. Also, the position they need the most help at is SG...

[DPG21920]

If they offer Delfino any of the MLE I would be so disappointed. Although, realistically, if they did make him an offer (which we only got the source from an Argentinian newspaper) than it is likely for at least half the MLE. Which blows

[SenorSpur]

I'm sure the Spurs FO is putting out offers to a bunch of free agents to cover their bases in case Maggette makes the mistake of signing with the Magic.

Has anyone heard any news on JR lately? Seems like he feel off the radar after Maggette opted out.

I'd feel a bit better if I heard that the Spurs were talking to Pietrus too. IMO, he should be the fallback plan if Maggette declines.

[SPURSGOAT]

potentially.....

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Delfino/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill

wow

Nice! :king

Guess Hairston and Gist to IR or Toros...

[completely deck]

More like..

C-Thomas/Oberto
PF-Duncan/Mahimni/Horry
SF-Bowen/Udoka
SG-Maggette/Ginobili
PG-Parker/Hill/Vaughn

Forgot about him.

[traitoravery]

IF anyone has ESPN insider can they post the article about the Spurs extending offer to Maggs, it is under NBA rumors.

[misterx91578]

Nice! :king

Guess Hairston and Gist to IR or Toros...


I say let them develop with the Toros

[coopdogg3]

IF anyone has ESPN insider can they post the article about the Spurs extending offer to Maggs, it is under NBA rumors.

It's nothing new.

Spurs To Offer Contract
Corey Maggette | Clippers
According to two NBA sources, one from each conference, the Spurs are preparing to make an offer to Corey Maggette, who became an unrestricted free agent Tuesday when he opted out of the final year of his contract with the Los Angeles Clippers.

Details are not known, but the Spurs are believed to be poised to offer the 28-year-old guard-forward their full mid-level exception worth about $5.8 million for the first year, the sources say. -- San Antonio Express-News

# Maggette has drawn interest from several teams, including the Utah Jazz, Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic. -- Los Angeles Times

# Chris Paul's extension was the Hornets' only significant move Tuesday, the first day of free agency. The team also is targeting Boston's James Posey, the Los Angeles Clippers' Corey Maggette and Detroit's Jarvis Hayes as potential additions through free agency. -- The Times-Picayune


http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors?univLogin02=stateChanged

[Spurtacus]

IF anyone has ESPN insider can they post the article about the Spurs extending offer to Maggs, it is under NBA rumors.

According to two NBA sources, one from each conference, the Spurs are preparing to make an offer to Corey Maggette, who became an unrestricted free agent Tuesday when he opted out of the final year of his contract with the Los Angeles Clippers.

Details are not known, but the Spurs are believed to be poised to offer the 28-year-old guard-forward their full mid-level exception worth about $5.8 million for the first year, the sources say. -- San Antonio Express-News

Maggette has drawn interest from several teams, including the Utah Jazz, Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic. -- Los Angeles Times

[Spurtacus]

Spurs offering him a contract doesn't mean he will accept!

[SequSpur]

WTF? Did they offer it to him or not? This is gay...

[TDMVPDPOY]

how come it only says 5.8m first year? whattabout the followings years?

fukn spurs low balling again....fuk these cheapskates

[timvp]

There is no "preparing to make an offer to Maggette". Both parties know the Spurs have the MLE. The Spurs would basically tell Maggette that he can have whatever type of contract is allowed. Maggette would be able to put any stipulations into the contract he wanted.

[coopdogg3]

how come it only says 5.8m first year? whattabout the followings years?

fukn spurs low balling again....fuk these cheapskates

There's no low balling here. The Spurs can only offer so much.

I'm beginning to think that Maggette is just using the Celts and the Spurs to get a better deal from the 76ers. Anyways, here's hoping we get him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

better deal from the 76ers. Anyways, here's hoping we get him.

76s dont even need him....what they need is a PF/C.....why waste cap on maggette when the team is stackd with players at that position

[vander]

better late then never I guess, but he isn't exactly young anymore.

[Spuradicator]

God I hope this happens

[Obstructed_View]

There's no low balling here. The Spurs can only offer so much.

I'm beginning to think that Maggette is just using the Celts and the Spurs to get a better deal from the 76ers. Anyways, here's hoping we get him.

The thing to remember is that Maggette has something to lose here, as well. If he waits for Philly's promise of more money, the good teams will probably commit their resources elsewhere (which is why they are good teams), and if Philly falls through he's stuck going to a weak sister for the same pay as he would have gotten from San Antonio or Boston, and he may not get the PT he wants. He knows what he has from the Spurs, and I'm quite sure they've explained to him that there's a ticking clock attached to it.

[Gino2882]

The 76ers could certainly use him. However, they are absolutely locked in on Josh Smith and to a lesser degree Josh Childress. That is why I have a feeling this will drag out.

Maggette may be hoping for the 6ers to become involved while they are busy whining and dining Smith. Maggette in a Spurs uniform would be great, but you can't fault him for chasing the cheddar.

[coopdogg3]

76s dont even need him....what they need is a PF/C.....why waste cap on maggette when the team is stackd with players at that position

76ers need a SG something fierce. Maggette would be a huge upgrade over Willie Green, and they have no depth at SG. Spurs may be able to grab Maggette while Philly wines-and-dines the Atlanta players. But if Smith and Childress fall through, Philly would be willing to throw some $$ after Maggette. Gotta hope the Spurs sign Maggette before that can happen.

[Spurtacus]

What kind of contract is he looking at from the Spurs? The MLE says 5.8 million for the first year. Afterwards?

[DPG21920]

For the first year might mean there is a raise the next year.

[coopdogg3]

Someone who knows the cap better than me should answer this, but I think they can only give 5% raises for a maximum of 5 years.

[DPG21920]

Although Marcus said he thinks you can not do that, I believe that you can.

[tmtcsc]

We should hear within the next day or so whether Maggette is the next target. If he is, we'll see if Maggette will go for the money or he's actually serious about wanting to win.

Don't get me started. If the Warriors make him an offer higher than the MLE,he's theirs. I don't believe athletes for a second when they say it isn't about the money.

C'mon CM, prove me wrong.

[smrattler]

Ah, the emotional roller-coaster that is the week between opening-day of FA season and signing day concludes day two. By tomorrow everyone will be accepting our loss of another FA. By Sunday, the uncertainty will boil over to hatred. By Tuesday, nobody will even want him here anymore. And signing day, if he comes in, we shower him with our devotion and praise him as the savior.

[Marcus Bryant]

Someone who knows the cap better than me should answer this, but I think they can only give 5% raises for a maximum of 5 years.

The max raise for another team's free agent is 8.0% of the first year salary, using the MLE.

[DPG21920]

Like I said earlier. We are all acting spoiled. Getting a Maggette or Childress or J.R. Smith would be ideal, but not likely. Those are home-runs that no one would of even thought we had a chance at just one week ago. How everyone is sounding on here reminds me exactly of the tone of the draft and then the Spurs went the other way. Not saying we can not get CM or J.R., just saying lets not meltdown if we do not because there is still talent available. Seriously though, I am getting the same exact feeling as pre-draft, it feels off.

[Kriz-Maxima]

Well ESPN NEWS is reporting the same that the yahoo article said, "spurs are front runners".

Not a guarantee though.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

how come it only says 5.8m first year? whattabout the followings years?

fukn spurs low balling again....fuk these cheapskates

You're dumb.

[ducks]

The max raise for another team's free agent is 8.0% of the first year salary, using the MLE.

very good mb


it will be intersting to see if it is 5 years

[ducks]

EVERYONE is waiting on the outcomes of the teams with cap room, including the other MLE free agents. You think JR Smith is going to sign an offer sheet until the ink is officially dry in Memphis, Philly, and Golden State?

good point


jr smith agent is not a fool

[ducks]

with manu on this team his minutes would be reduced and he would not play as many minutes and not get hurt


manu also would not be to tired for the playoffs
he would never have to play more then 29 minutes a game

[DPG21920]

Patience is the word of the day.

[Blackjack]

Patience is the word of the day.

Then this day needs to hurry-up and end.

[crc21209]

Hmmm....I just came across this guys...

Chris Duhon could decide this week's end if he wants to sign with Orlando Magic

By Tim Povtak and Brian Schmitz | Sentinel Staff Writers

11:03 PM EDT, July 2, 2008
Free-agent point guard Chris Duhon could finalize contract terms with the Orlando Magic by the end of the week after spending Wednesday with coaches, players and General Manager Otis Smith.

Duhon, who played the past four seasons with the Chicago Bulls, is scheduled to return home this morning, where he will decide whether to sign with the Magic, or the New York Knicks. He visited New York on Monday.

"The visit here went really well,'' said Kevin Bradbury, Duhon's agent, Wednesday night from his Orlando hotel room. "Chris wants to help a team win a championship. That's what Orlando is trying to do. That's different than a team looking to rebuild. He was flattered that a team of this caliber wants him.''

Free agents can begin signing July 9, but they can reach verbal agreements earlier.

The Magic were expected to offer Duhon a three-year deal worth close to $10 million.

The signing of Duhon would end any pursuit of Los Angeles Clippers guard Corey Maggette.

The Magic were one of several teams that let Maggette know July 1 that they could offer him a contract that started with the middle-class salary cap exception of $5.8 million. Maggette is hoping to receive a larger package.

Duhon would be coming to Orlando as a backup to starting point guard Jameer Nelson, giving the Magic a better defensive presence at the position. It also would end any possibility of re-signing Carlos Arroyo.

Although Duhon might have a better chance to start elsewhere, Bradbury said Duhon would be fine working behind Nelson.

"Chris just wants a well-defined role,'' Bradbury said. "He knows Jameer is the starter, but the Magic want him. Actions speak louder than words. He was the first free agent they brought in.''

Duhon played in 66 games last season, 18 as the starter. He averaged 22.8 minutes, 5.8 points and 4.4 assists.

He met with Coach Stan Van Gundy and Smith at the RDV Sportsplex during the day, then went out with several Magic players Wednesday evening.

"Out of respect for the teams that showed interest, we'd like to get something done (quickly),'' Bradbury said. "We won't hold anyone up.''

Also on Wednesday, Courtney Lee, the Magic's first-round draft choice, passed his physical and began practicing with the club's summer-league team. He has yet to sign his rookie contract, but he has a guaranteed tender that kicked in as soon as the Magic drafted him last Thursday. It protects him in case of injury.

Lee's agent, Jason Levien, said Wednesday that Lee and the Magic would come to terms soon.

"We're going to get it done this weekend, within the next several days," he said. He is expected to sign a four-year, $6 million contract.

The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, Seattle SuperSonics and New Jersey Nets join the Magic in the summer-league games beginning Monday afternoon at RDV Sportsplex. Patrick Ewing will coach the Magic. The games are not open to the public.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-magic0308jul03,0,2483343.story

[bigdog]

Hmmm....I just came across this guys...

Chris Duhon could decide this week's end if he wants to sign with Orlando Magic


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-magic0308jul03,0,2483343.story

What's up Chris! Lol.

I think Duhon's chances at landing in Orlando are pretty high. The Knicks offered him a deal, but there seems to be 2 PGs there already in Marbury and Nate Robinson. The backup spot in Orlando is his for the taking.

[crc21209]

Wats up Adam! Lol.

Yeah we all have to hope Duhon lands in Orlando leaving Maggette to us hopefully. Besides who wants to play in NY? haha. NY is offering 2 years/$7 mil and Orlando is offering 3 years/$10 mil. Go to Orlando Duhon! haha.

[Blackjack]

Come on Magic...

Why would you want Maggette when you can have Duhon.

[Spurtacus]

Come on Magic...

Why would you want Maggette when you can have Duhon.

:lol


I don't see the Magic being too interested in Maggette. Don't they have Hedo and Rashard Lewis? Hedo played pretty damn well for them last year. I'm sure Maggette wants to be a starter...he wouldn't be one in Orlando (unless they moved Hedo).

[T Park]

Maggette would allow them to move Hedo or Lewis to the bench and deepen their team.

The addition of Duhon though puts them out of the running.

[ss1986v2]

:lol


I don't see the Magic being too interested in Maggette. Don't they have Hedo and Rashard Lewis? Hedo played pretty damn well for them last year. I'm sure Maggette wants to be a starter...he wouldn't be one in Orlando (unless they moved Hedo).
nope. last year, rashard logged most of his minutes as the pf and hedo played the sf. maggette would step right into a starting role, replacing the two-headed monster that was bogans and evans at sg.

[td4mvp21]

Maggette would allow them to move Hedo or Lewis to the bench and deepen their team.

The addition of Duhon though puts them out of the running.

Or they could have a starting lineup of Nelson, Maggette, Hedo, Lewis, and Howard.

[Spurtacus]

Maggette would allow them to move Hedo or Lewis to the bench and deepen their team.

The addition of Duhon though puts them out of the running.

Yeah...I suppose Hedo could go to the bench. Lewis is being paid too much to be a bench player.

[T Park]

Or they could have a starting lineup of Nelson, Maggette, Hedo, Lewis, and Howard.

Or that as well.

[koopa]

Maggette would allow them to move Hedo or Lewis to the bench and deepen their team.

The addition of Duhon though puts them out of the running.

i think that would piss off lewis probably be a locker room problem....... and i doubt they'd want a dude getting the max coming off the bench

and hedo had a break out year, i think getting sent to bench would fuck with his head and he'd go back to old hedo


the perfect fit for him is in SA cause manu doesn't really give a shit if he's starting or not........ so maggette can come in and start and help win us that 5th championship

[T Park]

Alot of players were perfect fits for the Spurs but have turned em down for lesser pastures.

With the Magic signing Duhon, that puts em out of the running.

[Spurtacus]

Ha. Didn't realize they were starting Rashard Lewis at PF last season. :lol

[T Park]

Ha. Didn't realize they were starting Rashard Lewis at PF last season. :lol

Mostly because Tony battie was out all season long.

[bigdog]

nope. last year, rashard logged most of his minutes as the pf and hedo played the sf. maggette would step right into a starting role, replacing the two-headed monster that was bogans and evans at sg.

Yes, but GM Otis Smith said that they expect Battie to come back and be their starting PF, so that way they can move Lewis to the 3, and Turkoglu to the 2.

[koopa]

Ha. Didn't realize they were starting Rashard Lewis at PF last season. :lol

that's why the magic will never be a legit threat, you can't win with a soft power foward...

look at some last few losers in the nba championships

lakers- gasol
mavs- dirk
nets- kenyon martin

[Blackjack]

To me if it comes down to playing for the MLE, it comes down to the Spurs and the Magic. He may sacrifice some jack, but he'll be able to start and play his minutes at both.

I'm not getting my hopes up though with the amount of cash Philly and G.S. can throw at him. Hopefully when he says it's not about the money, it's really not about the money.

[bigdog]

that's why the magic will never be a legit threat, you can't win with a soft power foward...

look at some last few losers in the nba championships

lakers- gasol
mavs- dirk
nets- kenyon martin

Hellllooooo, Tony Battie was injured. The Magic expect him to be their starting PF

[ss1986v2]

Yes, but GM Otis Smith said that they expect Battie to come back and be their starting PF, so that way they can move Lewis to the 3, and Turkoglu to the 2.
the same tony battie that is 32 years old, has averaged 6.7 ppg and 5.6 rpg over his 10+ year career and is coming off a serious season ending injury? it would be foolish to think they would turn down maggette so that battie can have his spot back. if you can land maggette for the MLE, you staple battie to the bench if necessary, and run with the line-up that got you into the 2nd round this last year + maggette.

[Spurtacus]

the same tony battie that is 32 years old, has averaged 6.7 ppg and 5.6 rpg over his 10+ year career and is coming off a serious season ending injury? it would be foolish to think they would turn down maggette so that battie can have his spot back. if you can land maggette for the MLE, you staple battie to the bench if necessary, and run with the line-up that got you into the 2nd round this last year.

Even with Howard's rebounding, Orlando isn't going to win anything by playing small ball.

[ss1986v2]

Even with Howard's rebounding, Orlando isn't going to win anything by playing small ball.
so howard/battie/lewis/hedo/nelson > howard/lewis/hedo/maggette/nelson?

[bigdog]

the same tony battie that is 32 years old, has averaged 6.7 ppg and 5.6 rpg over his 10+ year career and is coming off a serious season ending injury? it would be foolish to think they would turn down maggette so that battie can have his spot back. if you can land maggette for the MLE, you staple battie to the bench if necessary, and run with the line-up that got you into the 2nd round this last year.

Yes, but the problem with that is that they don't want Lewis playing a ton of minutes out of position. He is a SF that just happens to be 6-10, so they ideally placed him at PF when Battie went out. Otis said that Battie is as good or better than any FA they could get down low, and it's obvious they see him as their starting PF.

With that being said, then there would be possibly no room for Maggette. After Hedo's breakout year, the Magic see him as their go to guy on the wing, and benching him could really hurt his play. Lewis is obviously the starting SF with the money they're paying him.

So Maggette would then be forced to come off the bench, which would be unappealing, because he wants to start. The Spurs can offer him a starting job. And of course with the possible addition of Duhon, Maggette wouldn't be able to sign there.

[TheMadHatter]

I think a lot of teams could definitely use Maggette's services.

Just because ORL has Hedo and Lewis doesn't mean they don't need Maggette. Hedo and Lewis are mostly shooters, they can penetrate at times and get to the line but it's not their game. Maggette adds a whole new dimension to their offense and brings them the balance they need. They'll have interior scoring, a penetrating guard player, and tons of good 3pt shooters. They can add a piece that they are sorely lacking without giving up any of their core, and the price is dirt cheap. Again I ask, why wouldn't they do it?

The Hornets are in the same boat, they have nobody that can get to the rim from the perimeter other than their PG CP3. At least the Spurs have Manu, the Hornets have a horrific rotation of swingmen (Peterson, Bonzi, etc.).

The Jazz are another team that has the same problem. Deron is really the only guy who can get into the lanes and penetrate. Maggette would definitely have a starting job there over Brewer.

These are just 3 teams I can name off the top of my head. All of them have the MLE to spend, and I can't see why any of them wouldn't make a pitch to Maggette for the MLE price.

[ss1986v2]

Yes, but the problem with that is that they don't want Lewis playing a ton of minutes out of position. He is a SF that just happens to be 6-10, so they ideally placed him at PF when Battie went out. Otis said that Battie is as good or better than any FA they could get down low, and it's obvious they see him as their starting PF.
but i think that its obvious that if they can get maggette for the MLE (something they didnt think was possible until the b.davis situation), they scrap that plan in half a heartbeat. thats too much value to let go for no other reason than to get battie back on the floor and lewis back at sf. the team has a better shot with maggette than they do without him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think a lot of teams could definitely use Maggette's services.

Just because ORL has Hedo and Lewis doesn't mean they don't need Maggette. Hedo and Lewis are mostly shooters, they can penetrate at times and get to the line but it's not their game. Maggette adds a whole new dimension to their offense and brings them the balance they need. They'll have interior scoring, a penetrating guard player, and tons of good 3pt shooters. They can add a piece that they are sorely lacking without giving up any of their core, and the price is dirt cheap. Again I ask, why wouldn't they do it?

The Hornets are in the same boat, they have nobody that can get to the rim from the perimeter other than their PG CP3. At least the Spurs have Manu, the Hornets have a horrific rotation of swingmen (Peterson, Bonzi, etc.).

The Jazz are another team that has the same problem. Deron is really the only guy who can get into the lanes and penetrate. Maggette would definitely have a starting job there over Brewer.

These are just 3 teams I can name off the top of my head. All of them have the MLE to spend, and I can't see why any of them wouldn't make a pitch to Maggette for the MLE price.

We get it. You're scared. Fucking move along instead of posting the same shit over and over.

[bigdog]

but i think that its obvious that if they can get maggette for the MLE (something they didnt think was possible until the b.davis situation), they scrap that plan in half a heartbeat. thats too much value to let go for no other reason than to get battie back on the floor and lewis back at sf. the team has a better shot with maggette than they do without him.

I understand your point, but then there would be no bench. If they sign Maggette and start him, then the bench would be horribly weak. They are better off spending the MLE on 2 decent players who can fill their bench, and not spend it on a very good player in Maggette, and have to sign guys to minimum contracts that will leave their bench very weak.

[Blackjack]

I think a lot of teams could definitely use Maggette's services.

Just because ORL has Hedo and Lewis doesn't mean they don't need Maggette. Hedo and Lewis are mostly shooters, they can penetrate at times and get to the line but it's not their game. Maggette adds a whole new dimension to their offense and brings them the balance they need. They'll have interior scoring, a penetrating guard player, and tons of good 3pt shooters. They can add a piece that they are sorely lacking without giving up any of their core, and the price is dirt cheap. Again I ask, why wouldn't they do it?

The Hornets are in the same boat, they have nobody that can get to the rim from the perimeter other than their PG CP3. At least the Spurs have Manu, the Hornets have a horrific rotation of swingmen (Peterson, Bonzi, etc.).

The Jazz are another team that has the same problem. Deron is really the only guy who can get into the lanes and penetrate. Maggette would definitely have a starting job there over Brewer.

These are just 3 teams I can name off the top of my head. All of them have the MLE to spend, and I can't see why any of them wouldn't make a pitch to Maggette for the MLE price.

Yeah... Love the sig and all, but...

Are you too lazy to update it, or is Gay/Mayo to vulgar for this board???

[Bruno]

To me, the situation is the following :
First, if Maggette signs for the MLE, it will be with Spurs.
Second, Maggette is still waiting to receive offers greater than the MLE from teams bellow the cap.

I quite think the situation is clear between Spurs and Maggette. Spurs have made him an offer, Pop has told him what he expected from him and Spurs have given him a deadline to answer.
Right now the waiting game doesn't hurt Spurs because the offseason really start on July 9th.

[bigdog]

To me, the situation is the following :
First, if Maggette signs for the MLE, it will be with Spurs.
Second, Maggette is still waiting to receiver offers greater than the MLE from teams bellow the cap.

I quite think the situation is clear between Spurs and Maggette. Spurs have made him an offer, Pop has told him what he expected from him and Spurs have given him a deadline to answer.
Right now the waiting game doesn't hurt Spurs because the offseason really start on July 9th.

This pretty much sums it up. Good job, Bruno.

[spurman20]

This pretty much sums it up. Good job, Bruno.

I agree with Bruno, But a new wire report dated today says multiple scources in the nba say corey will sign with spurs.....dont know why he doesnt just agree.......the only team I think that could steal him is Orlando, but from what I hear they wanna split thier MLE between a wing and a pg.....And they just drafted JJ Redick and say they love him wont trade him and drafted C Lee in draft so I dont see it happening

[spurman20]

Yeah... Love the sig and all, but...

Are you too lazy to update it, or is Gay/Mayo to vulgar for this board???

Utha has invested to much in its sg spot.....Brewer is a future star and last yr they Drafted Almond who is a great scorer and still have C J Miles they like...and Kover.......They need back up pg ...........N .O. They need shooters a the sg spot.....and I think they will make the rookie from Kansas thier sg of the future.....they are also looking to resign pargo with part of the MLE...

[angelbelow]

I think a lot of teams could definitely use Maggette's services.

Just because ORL has Hedo and Lewis doesn't mean they don't need Maggette. Hedo and Lewis are mostly shooters, they can penetrate at times and get to the line but it's not their game. Maggette adds a whole new dimension to their offense and brings them the balance they need. They'll have interior scoring, a penetrating guard player, and tons of good 3pt shooters. They can add a piece that they are sorely lacking without giving up any of their core, and the price is dirt cheap. Again I ask, why wouldn't they do it?

The Hornets are in the same boat, they have nobody that can get to the rim from the perimeter other than their PG CP3. At least the Spurs have Manu, the Hornets have a horrific rotation of swingmen (Peterson, Bonzi, etc.).

The Jazz are another team that has the same problem. Deron is really the only guy who can get into the lanes and penetrate. Maggette would definitely have a starting job there over Brewer.

These are just 3 teams I can name off the top of my head. All of them have the MLE to spend, and I can't see why any of them wouldn't make a pitch to Maggette for the MLE price.

wow how many times have you posted this? all 3 teams you mentioned could use corey, but using the mle on him would cripple their ability to build a bench. deron and cp3 both getting extentions too. you cant just have a super starting lineup and no bench and expect to get far. just ask the suns.

[tbear280]

He doesn't shoot a good %, but neither did Finley!

Yeah , not a good % at all just two 3-pointers in the greatest game ever in game 1 against Phoenix this year!

[Thomas82]

I think a lot of teams could definitely use Maggette's services.



Yeah, but he won't have the same opportunities and the same role with those other teams that he would have with the Spurs.

[rayray2k8]

There shouldnt be anymore new garbage threads posted, unless its progress on where
Corey Maggette is actually going.

Threads like "what number should C.M have" or "can you imagine his name being called" are a waste of threads.

Kori should really consider having this as a sticky or an "Official Corey Maggette thread".
......
He's not coming. :lol

[TheMadHatter]

Yeah, but he won't have the same opportunities and the same role with those other teams that he would have with the Spurs.

Will Maggette be on the floor during crunch time over Bruce and Manu?

[Kindergarten Cop]

Will Maggette be on the floor during crunch time over Bruce and Manu?

Not over Manu, but depending on the situation (defensive or offensive) he may be on the floor over Bowen.

[Obstructed_View]

Will Maggette be on the floor during crunch time over Bruce and Manu?

The guy gets to the line as well as about anybody in the league. But since we all know that the Spurs can't buy a fucking call in crunch time, then I'd say no.

[ChumpDumper]

Will Maggette be on the floor during crunch time over Bruce and Manu?Hell, he'd be out there with Bruce and Manu in crunch time.

[Spurtacus]

so howard/battie/lewis/hedo/nelson > howard/lewis/hedo/maggette/nelson?

Yes. Magic would be better off spending their money on a bench instead of another shooter.

[taps]

Hell, he'd be out there with Bruce and Manu in crunch time.

Agreed. If the situation calls for only 1 big then I see it happening. ie: last possession and we need a 3.

[rj215]

Yes. Magic would be better off spending their money on a bench instead of another shooter.

lewis gets destroyed by skilled bigs. he's a 3 playing 4 because of hedo. the magic shouldn't waste their time trying to get maggette. they need a real PF or C to help howard out. i just hope it's not kurt thomas.:depressed

[Spurtacus]

Hell, he'd be out there with Bruce and Manu in crunch time.

4 minutes left in the game. Down by 5 to Portland (with Oden and Aldridge on the court). Who's out there for SA? Whoever played well that game? Knowing Pop, probably so.


Just throwing out one possible scenario.

[DPG21920]

Would we start Maggette at the 2? Or would we put Bruce at the 2 and Maggette at the 3, either way we still have a tiny front court. That would be a massive back court.
Parker
Maggette
Bowen
Duncan
Oberto

[DPG21920]

4 minutes left in the game. Down by 5 to Portland (with Oden and Aldridge on the court). Who's out there for SA? Whoever played well that game? Knowing Pop, probably so.


Just throwing out one possible scenario.

If every thing goes perfectly this off-season and during season:
Mahinmi
Duncan
Maggette/Bowen
Gino
Parker

Realistically:
Oberto
Duncan
Bowen
Gino
Parker

Go with the strong suit

[AFBlue]

Not gonna go through all 46 pages....but can someone tell me whether the Maggette camp has said anything about "frontrunners" or even said who is interested. Seems to this point all we've heard is people citing the Spurs interest and a theoretical fit.

[Marcus Bryant]

Not gonna go through all 46 pages....but can someone tell me whether the Maggette camp has said anything about "frontrunners" or even said who is interested. Seems to this point all we've heard is people citing the Spurs interest and a theoretical fit.

All we have so far is that Maggette is quoted as saying that he'd like to play for a "proven winner."

The one thing in the Spurs' favor, among teams offering the MLE, is that they can have the cap flexibility to give Maggette the large guaranteed contract he apparently is seeking, in 2010. I think Orlando may be the only other team who could pull that off.

So far things seem to be shaping up for the Spurs to have a good shot at landing him. Of course, that could change in the next 5 minutes.

[Bruno]

What is interesting to note is that other teams interested in him are going other ways :
- Boston is now trying to re-sign Posey.
- Orlando is after Duhon.
- Hornets are after Posey.
- Sixers are after Josh Smith and Josh Childress.

Only Spurs and Jazz are said to be after Maggette and aren't reportedly after another MLE free agent.

[T Park]

Seems like things are slowly lining up.

Maybe?

Once again, I refuse to get my hopes up.

Fing Lamond Murray.

[DPG21920]

Well if the Spurs did indeed make an offer to Delfino, then one can assume that it was for a sizable portion of the MLE...

[ChumpDumper]

Well if the Spurs did indeed make an offer to Delfino, then one can assume that it was for a sizable portion of the MLE...Not really. He's a reach for the LLE, but why not try?

[xtremesteven33]

Gotta Get Gette!
Gotta Get Gette!
Gotta Get Gette!
Gotta Get Gette!
Gotta Get Gette!

[Kindergarten Cop]

Not really. He's a reach for the LLE, but why not try?

Beat me to it.

[Blackjack]

All we have so far is that Maggette is quoted as saying that he'd like to play for a "proven winner."

The one thing in the Spurs' favor, among teams offering the MLE, is that they can have the cap flexibility to give Maggette the large guaranteed contract he apparently is seeking, in 2010. I think Orlando may be the only other team who could pull that off.

So far things seem to be shaping up for the Spurs to have a good shot at landing him. Of course, that could change in the next 5 minutes.

:tu

I'm too lazy to break down each teams chances at getting Maggette, but after looking at all the situations I've come to this conclusion. If it comes down to Maggette excepting the MLE it will be between S.A. and Orl.(shocking, I know)

They both can offer him a starting role, minutes galore, no state-tax, and a chance to win. We all know the ties Maggette has with Orlando and his family, but iirc S.A. employs the man who built his shot.(Chip) Maybe that's S.A.'s ace in the whole. :smokin

[Marcus Bryant]

What is interesting to note is that other teams interested in him are going other ways :
- Boston is now trying to re-sign Posey.
- Orlando is after Duhon.
- Hornets are after Posey.
- Sixers are after Josh Smith and Josh Childress.

Only Spurs and Jazz are said to be after Maggette and aren't reportedly after another MLE free agent.

Yes.

Now if the Spurs can't attract a free agent over the Jazz, well, I'll stop thinking about that.

[2centsworth]

for everything Chump and Marcus know, they don't know jack. They just come up with creative ways of saying we don't know.

[ChumpDumper]

for everything Chump and Marcus know, they don't know jack. They just come up with creative ways of saying we don't know.And? What else are we to do? Not post until official press releases come out?

[Marcus Bryant]

Utah (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm) right now has some cap flexibility in 2010. Of course, they also would not have much of a team.

[coopdogg3]

Utah (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm) right now has some cap flexibility in 2010. Of course, they also would not have much of a team.

They have got to be hating that AK47 contract.

[Marcus Bryant]

for everything Chump and Marcus know, they don't know jack. They just come up with creative ways of saying we don't know.

Uh, we know enough to look at the scenario and evaluate possibilities given the NBA and NBPA's CBA and what's in the media. Of course we don't know what's going to happen. But this is a fan discussion forum, no?

[2centsworth]

Uh, we know enough to look at the scenario and evaluate possibilities given the NBA and NBPA's CBA and what's in the media. Of course we don't know what's going to happen. But this is a fan discussion forum, no?

stop telling me you don't know crap.

[ChumpDumper]

stop telling me you don't know crap.Should we lie and tell you we do know?

[2centsworth]

Should we lie and tell you we do know?

i'm giving you a hard time, I wish you did know.

[Kindergarten Cop]

for everything Chump and Marcus know, they don't know jack. They just come up with creative ways of saying we don't know.

To be honest, it is likely that there is only one (Maggette) or two (his agent) people in the world that "know" what is going to happen - and then again, maybe they don't even know jack at this point in time. Everyone here is just speculating, similar to the pundits at ESPN, Yahoo!, etc. - but sadly, Marcus and Chump may be more knowledgeable and accurate than those employed by the large corporations.

[Marcus Bryant]

stop telling me you don't know crap.

Do I know something or do I not? Maybe it's the Jim Beam (http://www.jimbeam.com/beam/default.aspx) but I'm confused.

[ChumpDumper]

As far as Delfino is concerned, it's speculation but an LLE would be a nice way for the Spurs to let them know they are interested and maybe get their foot in the door with him. A Maggette/Delfino acquisition is a best-case scenario, just as Maggette/Posey was for the Celtics.

Never hurts to ask and if Maggette doesn't pan out, perhaps Delfino would get some MLE money from the Spurs.

[Marcus Bryant]

As far as Delfino is concerned, it's speculation but an LLE would be a nice way for the Spurs to let them know they are interested and maybe get their foot in the door with him. A Maggette/Delfino acquisition is a best-case scenario, just as Maggette/Posey was for the Celtics.

Never hurts to ask and if Maggette doesn't pan out, perhaps Delfino would get some MLE money from the Spurs.

I can definitely see that. Then call up Colangelo and ask him if he wants Bonner back. The Spurs have done business with him before, no?

[Blackjack]

IIRC S.A. employs the man who built Maggettes's shot, (Chip) maybe that's S.A.'s ace in the whole?

Correct me if I'm wrong. (Like I need to ask to be corrected. :lol)

[Marcus Bryant]

IIRC S.A. employs the man who built Maggettes's shot, (Chip) maybe that's S.A.'s ace in the whole?

Correct me if I'm wrong. (Like I need to ask to be corrected. :lol)

Could be. Nice observation.

[xtremesteven33]

where did all the Laker trolls go? haha

[Kindergarten Cop]

IIRC S.A. employs the man who built Maggettes's shot, (Chip) maybe that's S.A.'s ace in the whole?

Correct me if I'm wrong. (Like I need to ask to be corrected. :lol)

http://www.nba.com/features/010904_duke.html

Q: It seemed like you improved your perimeter game last season. Is that something you need to continue to work on to take that next step up?

Maggette: I credit that to my coaches, and especially Chip Engelland, who went here. Also Johnny Dawkins, who contacted (Chip) and got him to work with me, and Grant Hill, because Chip works for him and he allowed him to work with me. Also, Tim Grover, who is one of Michael Jordan's trainers. This hard work is going to pay off sooner or later and I want to thank those guys for helping me.

[Blackjack]

http://www.nba.com/features/010904_duke.html

Q: It seemed like you improved your perimeter game last season. Is that something you need to continue to work on to take that next step up?

Maggette: I credit that to my coaches, and especially Chip Engelland, who went here. Also Johnny Dawkins, who contacted (Chip) and got him to work with me, and Grant Hill, because Chip works for him and he allowed him to work with me. Also, Tim Grover, who is one of Michael Jordan's trainers. This hard work is going to pay off sooner or later and I want to thank those guys for helping me.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again.(i.e. this guy.:lol)

[SPURSGOAT]

Do I know something or do I not? Maybe it's the Jim Beam (http://www.jimbeam.com/beam/default.aspx) but I'm confused.

mmmm Jim Beam :toast

[SPURSGOAT]

http://www.nba.com/features/010904_duke.htmlI want to thank those guys for helping me.[/I]

What better way to thank them than coming to play for the Spurs.... Chip can teach you even more...

[ChumpDumper]

where did all the Laker trolls go? hahaThe OtherOptionsForMaggetteBot broke down after posting in too many threads simultaneously.

[spurman20]

What is interesting to note is that other teams interested in him are going other ways :
- Boston is now trying to re-sign Posey.
- Orlando is after Duhon.
- Hornets are after Posey.
- Sixers are after Josh Smith and Josh Childress.

Only Spurs and Jazz are said to be after Maggette and aren't reportedly after another MLE free agent.

Spurs are also after Delfino and Mason.......I have also heard they like Hayes form detroit........Hayes and Delfino could fit nicely if Corey signs elsewhere:flag:

[peacemaker885]

What is interesting to note is that other teams interested in him are going other ways :
- Boston is now trying to re-sign Posey.
- Orlando is after Duhon.
- Hornets are after Posey.
- Sixers are after Josh Smith and Josh Childress.

Only Spurs and Jazz are said to be after Maggette and aren't reportedly after another MLE free agent.


Because all those teams respect the Spurs. Jazz play harball no matter what. Its only the freakin Portland tool, the Rockets - that have no respect at all and spit on our faces, depite giving them Scola on a silver platter.

[SPURSGOAT]

Man this sux... I doubt we will hear any new news on Maggette or anyone else until Monday... No news on the 4th or the weekend for that matter...:bang :depressed

[angelbelow]

Spurs are also after Delfino and Mason.......I have also heard they like Hayes form detroit........Hayes and Delfino could fit nicely if Corey signs elsewhere:flag:

roger mason?

[Blackjack]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs are also after Delfino and Mason.......I have also heard they like Hayes form detroit........Hayes and Delfino could fit nicely if Corey signs elsewhere:flag:

Did you read it on the Agent Handbook Forum? That would totally be so cool if so....

[angelbelow]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

nice, whose don harris?

[Blackjack]

nice, whose don harris?

The lead sports guy at News 4.

[bigdog]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

Ah, well if that's the case, then I'm looking forward to next week. WOAI is the only San Antonio sports people I will listen to.

[Blackjack]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

You know what...

I think I stumbled on to McDonald's source.

Way to go Jeff! :tu

Let Don Harris do the leg-work. :lmao

[T Park]

Don harris's league sources are probobly Spurstalk.com

[Blackjack]

Don harris's league sources are probobly Spurstalk.com

Well if that's the case, maybe he's smarter than we give him credit for. :lol

[T Park]

Well if that's the case, maybe he's smarter than we give him credit for. :lol

No hes an idiot.

His "those losers on the sports message boards" comment totally turned me off to him.

Yeah I know I dont have the best sports takes, but that doesn't make me some scum of the earth look down your nose at which he does regularly.

Screw Don Harris.

[Blackjack]

No hes an idiot.

His "those losers on the sports message boards" comment totally turned me off to him.

Yeah I know I dont have the best sports takes, but that doesn't make me some scum of the earth look down your nose at which he does regularly.

Screw Don Harris.

Wow! Tell me how you really feel. :lol

He actually used to be the best local sports t.v. guy, but he seems to have gotten pretty full of himself. It's pretty hilarious how he's been throwing out his opinion's as fact, and how intelligent he really thinks he is.

He's kind of like the guy at work that's been there so long, that he becomes lazy and cuts corners because of an over-inflated since of worth.

[angelbelow]

well i believe him.

[T Park]

I hope hes right.

I hope the Spurs and Maggette are close to a deal.

I just refuse to believe it, cause once you do, then your set up for the let down.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

By next week he should know if the Sixers and/or Warriors will make him an offer or not. That timeline kinda makes sense.

[samikeyp]

No hes an idiot.

His "those losers on the sports message boards" comment totally turned me off to him.

Yeah I know I dont have the best sports takes, but that doesn't make me some scum of the earth look down your nose at which he does regularly.

Screw Don Harris.

+1

[Spurtacus]

Who the fuck is Don Harris?

[duncan228]

Who the fuck is Don Harris?

http://www.woai.com/content/bios/story.aspx?content_id=af142754-116d-413e-8c89-628e652527af

Don Harris is the award winning Weekday Sports Anchor and Sports Director for News 4 (TV). In April of 2008 he was honored by the Texas A.P. Broadcasters for Best Sportscast and Best Sports Story. The News 4 Sports department was also honored in the TV Special category for their "Race For The Rings" Spurs Special.

In 2005 he was honored by the Texas A.P. Broadcasters for Best Editorial/Commentary for his "Don's Extra Point." It was the third straight year he won in that category. He also won Best Sports Story in 2005 and his sports anchoring has been recognized with two Emmy nominations.

Harris is a 19 year veteran of News 4, and has covered many major sporting events during that time, including Super Bowls, Final Fours and Four Spurs World Championships. News 4's Race for the Rings (Spurs pregame and postgame shows) were among the highest rated shows in San Antonio television history.

In 2000, Don launched "Sports Sunday" - a unique version of a weekly sports show that climbed to the top of the local ratings.

Harris made broadcasting history in late 2001 when he became the first and only broadcaster to host a live radio sports talk show and anchor a live television sportscast - simultaneously!

In December 2002, Don was named as one of the San Antonio Business Journal's "40 Under Forty" rising stars in the local community. In 2005 he was named "Best Talk Radio host" by the San Antonio Current readers poll.

In 1998 Harris started the Don Harris Charity classic, a golf tournament benefiting the Arthritis Foundation and The Family Service Association. Many top local sports celebrities have taken part helping to raise thousands of dollars for local children. This year the tournament will generate a record donation to the Family Service Association.

Harris works closely with two other local charities that he is actively involved in. He is on the advisory board of the Miracle League Of San Antonio and and an active supporter of Slam Dunk for Life.

Harris is married to wife Julie, who like Don, attended San Antonio's Churchill High School and the University of North Texas. They have two sons, Landry and Grant. When not working, he enjoys basketball and spending time with his family.

[Phenomanul]

I hope hes right.

I hope the Spurs and Maggette are close to a deal.

I just refuse to believe it, cause once you do, then your set up for the let down.

My thoughts exactly.

[spurman20]

Well, according to Don Harris, Maggette has the Spurs at the top of his list and should make a decision by next week. At least that's what "league sources" told him this afternoon.

I wonder if Maggette is playn us to get G State to ramp up an offer.....they dont wanna come away with nothing this off season after losing davis. If Corey wants to win he need to commit by the 8th or we need to move on .....or we could get screwed big time and end up with nothing.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't your fellow agents tell you anything?

[completely deck]

Update: A Celtics source continued to insist that the team has made no formal offer to Maggette, the Boston Herald reports.
Recommendation: The source said that the former Clipper is simply aware that the Celtics have a mid-level exception available. The other newspaper in town, the Boston Globe, reported an offer made and that Maggette is seriously considering it. However, the Celtics don’t have a starting job for Maggette, who is being courted by several other teams that can.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=rotowire-oreyaggetteoormalffe&prov=rotowire&type=fantasy

[exstatic]

Don't your fellow agents tell you anything?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/Matrix_Agents.jpg/300px-Matrix_Agents.jpg

[Spurs1234]

looks like Detriot is now a player as well. Basically anyone with the MLE available will be linked to CM, however he cant sign with all of them. Even with the Boston report on ESPNNEWs yesterday, i think they put that up since it was a slow sports day yesterday. I am sure BOS is talking to him but i doubt they would offer the MLE so soon, esp. if it would drive posey away which it would, and there is no promise that PHI or GS will not offer 10M next week and blow everyone out of the water and leave them with a pissed off posey. I am sure the spurs offered the MLE, but i do question who these "sources" are saying he would sign there. I think alot of the talk is based on the spurs offering the contract and it "making sense" that we would go there. but if anyone breaks the bank for Mag, I know he bolts for them. If he only gets MLE offers, i say its 50/50 he goes to the spurs.