1st Presidential Debate Blog

[MannyIsGod]

Obama's Goals

- Make McCain get pissed off. Somehow make him blow his top without going over the top. Don't gamble too much with this.

-Cut the answers shorter and too the point. I like the fact that you know your shit, but the rest of the Americans don't.

-Score some zingers! Make the audience laugh if possible. Be as affiable as possible.

-Most importantly - if you do NONE of the above, do not burn an American flag, praise Alah, or take a dump on a manger set. Do this and you should be fine.

McCain's Goals

-Keep your temper under control. I don't care if Obama says your mother sucked his dick, don't lose it.



I don't know what else McCain needs to do really, and I'm biased anyway so someone else feel free.

[CubanMustGo]

McCain's goals:

- Keep focus on foreign policy, where your experience far outweighs Obama's.
- Try to keep 'POW' mentions under five.
- Throw in a 'well, there you go again' when Obama relates a canard you can easily disprove. The old guard 'pubs will love it.

[angel_luv]

Bring it on. :corn:

[MannyIsGod]

Oh oh oh, whats the overunder on POW mentions? I don't think he will bring it up much, so I'm going to set the line low at 3.5.

[MannyIsGod]

Bring it on. :corn:

I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

[Mr. Peabody]

I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

Not me. I've been going back and forth. It's a tough, tough decision. It may take all four debates before I've truly decided.

[MannyIsGod]

Not me. I've been going back and forth. It's a tough, tough decision. It may take all four debates before I've truly decided.

:lol

you're about as undecided as I am white.

[angel_luv]

I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

I haven't.

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

However, I am not sold on McCain. His time as POW is to his credit, but that was then and I need to know what sort of man he is now.

I am really eager for these debates because the scripts are gone and I feel like this is my first real chance to get to know the candidates.

I am giving them both a blank slate. Someone needs to earn my vote.

[Shelly]

Oh oh oh, whats the overunder on POW mentions? I don't think he will bring it up much, so I'm going to set the line low at 3.5.

Oh, God. I hope not!

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama's Goals

- Make McCain get pissed off. Somehow make him blow his top without going over the top. Don't gamble too much with this.

-Cut the answers shorter and too the point. I like the fact that you know your shit, but the rest of the Americans don't.

-Score some zingers! Make the audience laugh if possible. Be as affiable as possible.

-Most importantly - if you do NONE of the above, do not burn an American flag, praise Alah, or take a dump on a manger set. Do this and you should be fine.

McCain's Goals

-Keep your temper under control. I don't care if Obama says your mother sucked his dick, don't lose it.



I don't know what else McCain needs to do really, and I'm biased anyway so someone else feel free.

I think McCain needs to address the current economic situation and show the public that he has a complete grasp of the issues and has solutions for them.

I think Obama needs to spend some time shoring up his perceived foreign policy experience deficit. It's a national security debate, but the economy may dominate.

[T Park]

I haven't.

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

However, I am not sold on McCain. His time as POW is to his credit, but that was then and I need to know what sort of man he is now.

I am really eager for these debates because the scripts are gone and I feel like this is my first real chance to get to know the candidates.

I am giving them both a blank slate. Someone needs to earn my vote.

Ha.

All their answers are scripted.

[Mr. Peabody]

:lol

you're about as undecided as I am white.

Not true. I'm still trying to decide whether to continue sending Obama money like I have been or whether start sending him lots of money. It's a tough, tough decision.

[T Park]

I think McCain needs to address the current economic situation and show the public that he has a complete grasp of the issues and has solutions for them.

I think Obama needs to spend some time shoring up his perceived foreign policy experience deficit. It's a national security debate, but the economy may dominate.


It'll be economic based, and Obama will win it, because hes gonna say what the public wants to hear.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

[Mr. Peabody]

It'll be economic based, and Obama will win it, because hes gonna say what the public wants to hear.

You see, and that could sway my decision in this election.

[MannyIsGod]

I wonder if they'll actually get McCain to commit to a stance ont he bailout. I think they'lll start directly on teh economy then get to the topic the debate was supposed to be.

[MannyIsGod]

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/thegreatdebater.jpg

[Mr. Peabody]

I wonder if they'll actually get McCain to commit to a stance ont he bailout. I think they'lll start directly on teh economy then get to the topic the debate was supposed to be.

I would think that Lehrer would try to get that out of McCain. The media kept mentioning McCain's reluctance to reveal his position today. I don't see how Lehrer wouldn't explore that issue.

I wonder what kind of pressure these moderators are under from their peers to ask the questions that are lingering in the media-at-large. In other words, if Lehrer doesn't get in to some of these issues, will Bob Schieffer or Tom Brokaw think less of him? And, if so, does Lehrer care enough to let it determine the questions he asks?

[Mr. Peabody]

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/thegreatdebater.jpg

Aw man. I must be getting the West Coast feed....:depressed

[Yonivore]

I would think that Lehrer would try to get that out of McCain. The media kept mentioning McCain's reluctance to reveal his position today. I don't see how Lehrer wouldn't explore that issue.

I wonder what kind of pressure these moderators are under from their peers to ask the questions that are lingering in the media-at-large. In other words, if Lehrer doesn't get in to some of these issues, will Bob Schieffer or Tom Brokaw think less of him? And, if so, does Lehrer care enough to let it determine the questions he asks?
Whatever his politics -- and I don't know them -- I don't think Jim Lehrer is one to be pushed around by others in the media or, quite frankly, much care what they think.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW the CNN HD feed sounds pretty awesome. They're going to have a few features that seem neat.

Oh, and I'll be on cheater watch!!!

IPODGATE????

http://www.visualfuturist.com/bushiswired/images/photoanalysis/debate1lg/bush_wired-large.jpg

[angel_luv]

Ha.

All their answers are scripted.


But at least the atmosphere will be less controlled than it was at the conventions.

[MannyIsGod]

I hate pundits for the most part, but I love the technology these guys use. The maps with the breakdowns and the vast amount of information they are able to show at a moments notice is awesome.

[Mr. Peabody]

I'm looking forward to the reports from Spin Alley telling me who won the debate. I'll bet we'll have some conflicting reports.....

[MannyIsGod]

They apparently didn't get the memo McCain won. They're so behind.

[Mr. Peabody]

I'm also looking forward to the focus groups of "undecided" voters from some swing state (Ohio, perhaps?) that will tell me what issues were important to them during the debates and the media narrative that will result from it.

[Shastafarian]

I'm looking forward to the reports from Spin Alley telling me who won the debate. I'll bet we'll have some conflicting reports.....

Fox News: McCain is the clear winner here.

Olbermann: There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Barak Obama wins the first presidential debate.

[Mr. Peabody]

I'm also looking forward to the meta-analysis that we'll get from the pundits after the debates, asking questions like "So who will we be saying won tomorrow?" or "What moments from this debate will we be talking about tomorrow?" or "What narrative will we be discussing tomorrow?".

It throws me into a state of bewilderment and confusion every time they do that (and I guess I like being in a state of bewilderment and confusion).

I mean, isn't it an admission that they have no control over their analysis and merely repeat what others are saying.

[Shelly]

how many debates do they usually do?

[Mr. Peabody]

how many debates do they usually do?

I think three Presidential debates and one VP debate is the norm.

[Buddy Holly]

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

Why? Firstly, he also said getting an STD for having unprotected sex at 15 or 16 is a punishment too.

But back to your comment. Why would he get a strike for stating the obvious? At 15 or 16, having a kid isn't a "present", unless you're a celebrity with enough money and nannies to birth 25 babies at once with no foreseeable problem, it's a result for being stupid and not using protection. No kid, unless warped by their environment says at 14 or 15 or 16 "Yay! I'm pregnant!"

[Buddy Holly]

how many debates do they usually do?

There's three Presidential debates and one VP debate.

[Yonivore]

BTW the CNN HD feed sounds pretty awesome.
Well, we know what memo you received...

pSGc6byeMgk

[MannyIsGod]

Am I the only one who finds Michelle Obama extremely hot?

[Yonivore]

Am I the only one who finds Michelle Obama extremely hot?

Yes...well, you and Barak...maybe.

[Shelly]

There's three Presidential debates and one VP debate.

I know the VP is Oct 2? When are the other presidential debates scheduled?

[MannyIsGod]

Well, we know what memo you received...

pSGc6byeMgk

:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?

[Mr. Peabody]

Well, we know what memo you received...

pSGc6byeMgk

Manny's not an undecided voter like whott and I are.

Oh, that's right, whott just decided very recently who to support.

[Yonivore]

:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?
I don't get FoxNews...

I just made the connection between this vid and you "memo" comment a few posts later and chuckled. Thought I'd throw it up.

[Mr. Peabody]

:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?

Does Fox News have an HD channel on Time Warner? Can I watch the Deuce in HD?

[Shastafarian]

Does Fox News have an HD channel on Time Warner? Can I watch the Duce in HD?

The Duce?

[angel_luv]

Why? Firstly, he also said getting an STD for having unprotected sex at 15 or 16 is a punishment too.

But back to your comment. Why would he get a strike for stating the obvious? At 15 or 16, having a kid isn't a "gift", unless you're a celebrity with enough money and nannies to birth 25 babies at once with no foreseeable problem, it's a result for being stupid and not using protection. No kid, unless warped by their environment says at 14 or 15 or 16 "Yay! I'm pregnant!"


Senator Obama's phrasing was poor to call the baby a punishment.

A baby outside of marriage is consequence of premarital sex- yes. It is the parents of the baby's fault; in no way is the baby to blame.
And never, according to my belief, should the baby be aborted in order to "fix" things.

[Mr. Peabody]

The Duce?

Steve "The Deuce" Doocy.

misspelled in original.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, Fox news and CNN are the two HD news feeds on TW here in SA.

[Mr. Peabody]

Here we go....

[Shastafarian]

Steve "The Deuce" Doocy.

misspelled in original.

I figured that's who you meant. That guy is such an idiot. I tried watching Fox and Friends. It's unwatchable. Those people are so dumb. After the SNL opener, Ducey actually said something like, "That can't be legal can it?"

[JoeChalupa]

I'm watching on C-SPAN,

Let's get it on!!!!

[Yonivore]

I'm watching on C-SPAN,

Let's get it on!!!!

Ditto

[DarkReign]

...and here we go...

[Mr. Peabody]

Yeah, Fox news and CNN are the two HD news feeds on TW here in SA.

The CNN HD feed has that pundit barometer. I don't think I can take that the entire debate. Switching to PBS HD.

[ChumpDumper]

McCain hit a home run with that handshake.

[Shastafarian]

Obama said "Old Miss" instead of "Ole Miss". He loses.

[Anti.Hero]

Are they reading off teleprompters?

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama's got a flag pin on.

Obama 1
McCain 0

[DarkReign]

Freudian slip there with the "IF the economy comes back".

[Anti.Hero]

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

[DarkReign]

McCain is socring points with that schtick.

[angel_luv]

:lol Senator McCain making age jokes about himself.

[Mr. Peabody]

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

The text is written in lemon juice on Jim Lehrer's head. When he gets close to the stage light, it turns brown.

[Spurtacus]

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

No....

[T Park]

Pulled a Regan with the making the age a joke thing.

Well played, worked for him in 84.

[angel_luv]

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

[DarkReign]

Lehrer is kicking ass.

EDITED: alright, I'll stop

[MannyIsGod]

McCain's opening statement was a lot of rambling.

[Kriz-Maxima]

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

Read my mind.

[DarkReign]

...here it cooooooomes...

[JoeChalupa]

I "miss"ed that.

[Mr. Peabody]

McCain committed to voting for the plan.

[baseline bum]

Should we take a shot every time Obama says Main Street?

[Anti.Hero]

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

[MannyIsGod]

Leher ftw so far.

[baseline bum]

Fundamentals of the economy smack!

[JoeChalupa]

Obama does need to look at McCain in the eye.

[Mr. Peabody]

Obama's advisers must have told him to harp on the underlying Republican economic theories. He keeps going back to that.

[JoeChalupa]

And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

Because he's staying the course.

[DarkReign]

Should we take a shot every time Obama says Main Street?

I'd be drunk already.

Now McCain starts in with the Wall/Main street rhetoric.

[Findog]

They both seem nervous

[DarkReign]

They both seem nervous

Extremely.


Agreed.

[angel_luv]

And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

I agree.

Neither of the Senators has really impressed me.
I am hoping to at least discover that one is distinctly the lesser of two evils.

[Shastafarian]

"Fundamental" count

Obama - 2
McCain - 3
Lehrer - 2

[baseline bum]

They both seem nervous

Sorry, nobody seems nervous after seeing the Palin interviews.

[Mr. Peabody]

Everyone is pussy-footing, afraid to slip up. Lehrer is going to have them mix it up before this is all over.

[Mr. Peabody]

McCain goes back to bear DNA shtick.

[Anti.Hero]

3 million on bears when Palin did 3 million on crabs?

Cmon McCain.

[JoeChalupa]

McCain is using the same old lines too.

[angel_luv]

The thing about these debates to me is it is all campaign promises. There is no guarantee that either of these gentlemen will follow through on anything they have memorized... I mean said :lol ...so electing either is a risk.

[Mr. Peabody]

Here goes.

[Shastafarian]

Uh oh McCain just mentioned some silly wildlife spending...look for people to call him on that in the morning (Palin and seal genetics).

[Spur-Addict]

I got a pen...:lol

[baseline bum]

Palin had crabs? Fuck, there goes the MILF vote.

[angel_luv]

" Fundamental"- Senator Obama

[Anti.Hero]

If the top isn't growing, the bottom will grow?

Tax cuts will be great when people are getting laid off to cut costs for new taxes. Awesome.

[DarkReign]

Looking every bit of inexperienced.

[angel_luv]

Senator McCain " I don't mean to go back and forth."

:lol It's a DEBATE!

[JoeChalupa]

Sheriff McCain!!!!

[Shastafarian]

"Sheriff", "Miss Congeniality"..."Maverick"?

[angel_luv]

" Fundamental"- when did Tim Duncan become a catch phrase in politics?

[baseline bum]

Fuck, it's like both candidates are just reciting their commercials.

[Biernutz]

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/thegreatdebater.jpg



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[MannyIsGod]

Obama's shaking off the nerves and hitting as a stride!!!

[angel_luv]

Whoo hoo Senator Obama addressing Senator McCain directly and without prompting.

[Shastafarian]

Good back and forth.

[ChumpDumper]

Obama's really trained himself to not say "uh" -- but Im not sure if the stammering is a good replacement.

[MannyIsGod]

McCain's not going to get anywhere continously harping on 18 billion vs 300 billion. Thats all the people are going to hear.

[milkyway21]

I'm not a voter but I really really want to hear McCain and Obama's stand on foreign policy because right now it's one of the two top issues internationally.The economy. And the enemy. How they are going to deal and relations with other countries such as ours and if who is a better leader to bring world peace while being a leader with principle(a more powerful), but a model to emulate at the same time.

I'm not watching this live. I'll check later who won.

[angel_luv]

I want to see the two senators go at it. Throw it down, big men, throw it down.
:lol

And if you men want to raise your voices a tad- that's all right too.

[Findog]

Barack is underwhelming so far. MCain seems slightly more poised.

[Shastafarian]

$5,000 for each family? Where are we getting this money? How can we cut taxes for everyone when we have no money?!?!?!

[01.20.09]

McCain isn't doing bad at all but I think Obama has his game on tonight.

[The Reckoning]

if only bob barr or ron paul could be on a third podium

[Biernutz]

John is the best----http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/SMILEYS%20%20222/themot-owned.gif

[JoeChalupa]

Barack is doing very well.

[Spurtacus]

Senator McCain " I don't mean to go back and forth."

:lol It's a DEBATE!


I know. "Maverick", ha.

[Findog]

C'mon Barack, you don't have Tourettes!!!!

[Shastafarian]

festooned?

[Biernutz]

Go John!!!!

[angel_luv]

I know Mavericks as people who choke under pressure.

Senator McCain is obviously not after the Spurs fans' votes with his bragging about that nickname. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Both senators are shaking off the jitters.

[Spurtacus]

Obama just schooled McCain.

[Anti.Hero]

$5,000 for each family? Where are we getting this money? How can we cut taxes for everyone when we have no money?!?!?!

Where will we get 895 billion to fight global poverty?

Where did Bush get 50 billion to send to Africa????

[Biernutz]

I love this http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/SMILEYS%20%20222/party0051.gif

[MannyIsGod]

This is probably the best format we've had in awhile. Leher is also trying to get these guys addressing each other more and it seems to be working.

[baseline bum]

Barack is underwhelming so far. MCain seems slightly more poised.

Agreed. I think McCain's winning so far.

[Findog]

Barack is starting to find his voice

[Biernutz]

Obama ---Democrat talking points

[angel_luv]

I don't like the " moderator asking questions" format.

Every time the Senators start to get going arguing, it is time for the next question.
It feels too contained.

I would prefer if the moderator was there to reign in the discussion, when absolutely needed, but not lead it.

[Anti.Hero]

Who is keeping college expensive????

[BRHornet45]

sons McCain is owning so far ... Barack Hussein Obama sounds like a broken record.

[lefty]

Obama for 33333333333333333333

[baseline bum]

It's hard to reach across the aisle from that far left.

:lol

[Anti.Hero]

Fixed cost contracts sons.

Fix them costsssssss

[MannyIsGod]

Obama is speaking in terms and ways that people are goign to understand a lot more than McCain on this question.

Cost Plus contracts? Thats not going to play as much as the stuff Obama is talking about.

[BRHornet45]

It's hard to reach across the aisle from that far left.

:lol

lol son that was a good one and 100% true

[Biernutz]

John is talking cost control --go John----

[Anti.Hero]

"I'm going straight up seek and destroy on these costly mutha fuckas!"

[Findog]

Obama needs to stop stammering

[Shastafarian]

Obama needs to stop stammering

It's just how he talks. He over thinks his answers.

[Biernutz]

Obama --talking points --says McCain is right---

[BRHornet45]

sons has anyone noticed how many times Obama has agreed with McCain and stated that "John is right". at least 4 times already?

[angel_luv]

See? The moderator interrupted John McCain and I wanted to hear what Senator John McCain was going to say back to Senator Obama.

[baseline bum]

Both candidates have been lame on this second question.

[Anti.Hero]

No, WE NEED A HATCHET!


haha

[Yonivore]

I might like Lehrer but, he sucks as a moderator in this format.

[Findog]

Obama is scoring some good points here. He's finally coming on strong.

[Shastafarian]

First good answer from Obama. Hatchet indeed.

[CubanMustGo]

Neither have impressed me yet.

[Yonivore]

No, WE NEED A HATCHET!


haha

True that.

[JoeChalupa]

This is refreshing thread considering all the negative posts I've read about debates. :tu

[Biernutz]

John spending freeze---off shore drilling and Nuke plants---

[Pistons < Spurs]

So far they both get a poor grade. Quoting the same stats we've heard for the last several months doesn't tell me a whole bunch.

[Anti.Hero]

America's financial crisis?....Bitch, I must end world poverty.

[milkyway21]

why is it that sometimes I feel what Obama is saying are scripted?

I hear he did "practiced" in his hotel a long time few days ago:lol

[01.20.09]

McCain just doesn't have it tonight. He must have missed the early bird special.

[Biernutz]

Obama talking points--no solution

[Pistons < Spurs]

sons has anyone noticed how many times Obama has agreed with McCain and stated that "John is right". at least 4 times already?

No kidding son. Once or twice would have been fine ... but he can't keep on doing that all night.

[Yonivore]

Obama talking points--no solution
Obama just repeats things that have been said to him over and over. There's no understanding. And democrats mistake it for genius.

[Anti.Hero]

McCain just doesn't have it tonight. He must have missed the early bird special.

uhhhh educate yourself





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Goes straight to the bones.

[angel_luv]

Neither seems very passionate. Where is the fire in the belly?

[baseline bum]

McCain wants families to control health care? Bullshit. Insurance companies do you senile fuck.

[JoeChalupa]

Obama just repeats things that have been said to him over and over. There's no understanding. And democrats mistake it for genius.

McCaine is doing the same or are you not watching? Dont' forget that they are both politicians.

[Spurtacus]

why is it that sometimes I feel what Obama is saying are scripted?

I hear he did "practiced" in his hotel a long time few days ago:lol

And I suppose McCain didn't practice or prep?

[The Reckoning]

"orgy of spending" hahaha

[Spur-Addict]

"Orgy of spending"

[angel_luv]

Jim, John... Tom.

Senator Obama has trouble remembering his opponents name or is that an intentional slight?

[DarkReign]

"orgy of spending?"

Strange verbage to use.

[baseline bum]

Orgy of spending... and you voted for almost all of his budgets.

:ihit

[Mr. Peabody]

Miss Congeniality x 2!

[Shastafarian]

McCain back on Miss Congeniality. Second time.

[Anti.Hero]

Why do they keep referencing Sandra Bullock?

[hitmanyr2k]

Obama just repeats things that have been said to him over and over. There's no understanding. And democrats mistake it for genius.

What the hell do you know? This from a guy that looks at a 24 second Youtube clip and think he knows all there is to know about someone's position on a subject? STFU :lol

[01.20.09]

WTF is McCain's obsession with Ms. Congeniality? Did Sarah win that or what?

[DarkReign]

maverick of the senate?!

:lmao

[Findog]

Neither seems very passionate. Where is the fire in the belly?

They're afraid of making gaffes and fucking up. Playing not to lose instead of to win.

[angel_luv]

"Mavericks"- Boo!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Peabody]

Jim, John... Tom.

Senator Obama has trouble remembering his opponents name or is that an intentional slight?

Jim is the moderator and Obama interrupted him then addressed John McCain.

[ChumpDumper]

Jim, John... Tom.

Senator Obama has trouble remembering his opponents name or is that an intentional slight?
Jim is the moderator. I didn't hear him say Tom.

[Yonivore]

WTF is McCain's obsession with Ms. Congeniality?

It's a tag line like "I'll make 'em famous, you'll know their names."

Lame...

[baseline bum]

We are winning in Iraq? WTF?

[The Reckoning]

wouldnt an orgy of spending be a delightful thing?

[Yonivore]

We are winning in Iraq? WTF?
Yeah, where'ya been?

[Yonivore]

wouldnt an orgy of spending be a delightful thing?
To a Democrat, probably.

[Biernutz]

The surge John was for it --Obama was against it....

[2Blonde]

GObama

[angel_luv]

Jim is the moderator. I didn't hear him say Tom.

Earlier Senator Obama mistakenly called Senator McCain, Tom when he ( Senator Obama) was preparing to reference the Senator Tom, the really conservative one Senator Obama said he has teamed with in the past.

[baseline bum]

$600 billion on the war with nothing to show for it

[PixelPusher]

maverick of the senate?!

:lmao

"I'm the coolest guy in my class, honest!"

[Anti.Hero]

John McCain was wrong, Barrack Obama was RIIIIGGGHHTT.

Say it with me children.

[angel_luv]

For the sake of typing efficiency I am going to start referring to the Senators as Sen J and Sen B- no disrespect to either intended.

[Anti.Hero]

$600 billion on the war with nothing to show for it

Agreed. A couple trillion and 10 years later we'll watch them get pwnt as soon as we withdraw.

Victory for America.

[Yonivore]

Uh oh, he's playing up Biden...

[Shastafarian]

Another baseball reference. Come on Barack! Don't you know football is more popular in this country?

[BRHornet45]

sons this sums up Obama tonight ....

"Well John is absolutely right on that. However, this is where we have a fundamental difference of opinions, but ultimately John is right. Even though I know it won't happen, I stand for free health care to all and in order to pay for it, I plan on taxing the hell out of anyone who makes a successful living for themselves ... and oh yea, hope and change." - Barack Hussein Obama

[Findog]

Obama is winning on points on Iraq.

[Biernutz]

Obama has said John was right again----

[MannyIsGod]

At least he hasn't brought up being a POW. May O/U of 3.5 may have been high.

I'm sorry but so far Obama is at the least tied with McCain and thats not good enough for McCain. I really do think Obama is winning hands down.

"John you like to pretend the war started in 2007" NICE.

[Pistons < Spurs]

"Senator McCain is right" x 1326 so far.....

[Shastafarian]

Obama really going after McCain...

[angel_luv]

Sen B " Senator J was wrong"

[Findog]

Obama is CURBSTOMBING McCain on Iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baseline bum]

Obama's going after McCain hard here. :lol

McCain's acting like the war began in 2007 :lol

[ChumpDumper]

"You were wrong."

Pretty strong.

[Spurtacus]

"You were wrong"

Nice. :tu

[DarkReign]

That is a triple down the line...short of a homerun, but damn.

[Biernutz]

Obama has no military experience----

[Shastafarian]

John, anecdotes aren't what we need to hear.

[baseline bum]

McCain is getting bent the fuck over on this question

[Findog]

Johnny Mac, you are on the wrong side of the issue on Iraq.

[baseline bum]

If you don't want peoples' kids going back to Iraq then what the fuck do you want to stay there 100 years for?

[Findog]

Obama is fucking McCain up on Iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anti.Hero]

The next president won't get to debate if the war was right.

He'll have to deal with reality.


Pwnage.

[baseline bum]

Fuck him up Barack

No vaseline

[Findog]

Kill 'em Barack!

[ChumpDumper]

If Obama can keep track of all the shit McCain threw at him, I'll be impressed.

[Findog]

The next president won't get to debate if the war was right.

He'll have to deal with reality.


Pwnage.

Speaks to judgment. Barack got it right, McCain got it wrong.

[Shastafarian]

If Obama can keep track of all the shit McCain threw at him, I'll be impressed.

I figured they'd be allowed a pad of paper and a pen but I guess the fluidity of this debate would render that unusable.

[Anti.Hero]

Speaks to judgment. Barack got it right, McCain got it wrong.

And yet we are at a point in time where reality doesn't give a shit.


Withdraw the troops tomorrow imo. That was just a good point McCain snuck in.

[baseline bum]

Obama's starting to take this debate back after fucking up early.

[Biernutz]

obama on a time table

[Findog]

Call him out on his bullshit!

[MannyIsGod]

Dude, Obama is on a fucking mission. Hang him, Barak. HANG HIM.

[Shastafarian]

I'm wondering if McCain is lying or what. Obama seems genuinely upset by all these things he's saying.

[ChumpDumper]

obama on a time tableDoesn't Iraq want one?

[baseline bum]

Hey McCain, did our original generals agree with our plan in Iraq?

[Findog]

And yet we are at a point in time where reality doesn't give a shit.

I'll go with the guy who got it right on the transcendent foreign policy issue of our time going forward. I trust his judgment on contigencies going forward.

[MannyIsGod]

Wow man, that was great by Obama. Just fucking great.

[Biernutz]

All the military Generals say Obama's plans are dangerous----

[Findog]

THIS is the Barack Obama I wanted to see!

[baseline bum]

What about all the ones who quit because the DOD's plan was so fucked?

[Spurtacus]

Awesome, Barack. Awesome. :tu

[ElNono]

All the military Generals say Obama's plans are dangerous----

They were plenty quiet when Rumsfeld was in charge fucking things up...

[Mr. Peabody]

All the military Generals say Obama's plans are dangerous----

McCain flailing hoping something hits....

[MannyIsGod]

I'll go with the guy who got it right on the transcendent foreign policy issue of our time going forward. I trust his judgment on contigencies going forward.

A fucking MEN

[The Reckoning]

invading pakistan?

[Findog]

This is why McCain is going to lose the election. He's talking up an unpopular war people are sick of.

[2Blonde]

This is why McCain is going to lose the election. He's talking up an unpopular war people are sick of.
:tu

[ChumpDumper]

:lol McCain just said he would strike Pakistan, he just wouldn't say he would strike Pakistan.

[baseline bum]

This is why McCain is going to lose the election. He's talking up an unpopular war people are sick of.

:tu

How many of us have family members over there that we want coming back in 1 piece?

[Spurtacus]

McCain doesn't fucking know what he's talking about in regards to Pakistan.

[baseline bum]

McCain is blowing it

[Shastafarian]

McCain doesn't fucking know what he's talking about in regards to Pakistan.

But he's been there! That means he understands it.

[Findog]

In the interests of intellectual honesty, McCain is demonstrating a strong grasp of issues in his Pakistan/Afghanistan answer here.

[Biernutz]

Obama is a huckleberry.... no foreign experience with Pakistan

[Shastafarian]

:lmao Obama just hit below the belt.

[Mr. Peabody]

Damn. Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.

[Findog]

Of course, Barack just lands a devastating counterpunch

[Anti.Hero]

This is why McCain is going to lose the election. He's talking up an unpopular war people are sick of.

Make them fear extreme socialist policy more than they fear the war.

One will be overseas. The other will be on the back of your ass 24/7

[BRHornet45]

"John your absolutely right" - Obama ...... that sums up his night. how many times has he agreed with McCain now! my count is at 8

[Biernutz]

Obama said John your right again 2 more times------

[ChumpDumper]

Oh shit -- singing songs about bombing Iran.

[Yonivore]

:tu

How many of us have family members over there that we want coming back in 1 piece?
Family members who volunteered to be where they are.

And, there are quite a lot fewer, better equipped family members have over there than those here who we want to remain in 1 piece.

I think Obama misunderstands the fundamental threat posed. But, so do you...we'll debate later.