Spurs Talk Fantasy Baseball 09

[alamo50]

yeah I was too busy getting laid

In between your 118 deals?

:rollin

Seriously; you put him on your bench on Wednesday and put him back in the lineup on Sunday (a day after you woke up with a splitting headache from the 3 missed ringers).

:bang

[slayermin]

Damn, I had a chance at picking up McCutchen, I think.

Oh well. At least I got Gordon Beckham.

[Thunder Dan]

In between your 118 deals?

:rollin

Seriously; you put him on your bench on Wednesday and put him back in the lineup on Sunday (a day after you woke up with a splitting headache from the 3 missed ringers).

:bang

yeah but I was up like 7 steals and he isn't the home run and RBI threat Matsui is which is what I needed at the moment. It's easy to look now and see he hit 3 homers, but he only had 3 all season so I played the right cards. The problem is that Matsui didn't even play that day and I would have subbed in McCuthen

I lost 8-2, but my stats weren't bad except ERA, just one of those weeks.

[whottt]

The Hammer is putting up 5r and 3RBI at a %471 clip this week....who wouldn't love to have that kind of production from their CI/3B?

Nice pickup Mel :tu

[Thunder Dan]

The Hammer is putting up 5r and 3RBI at a %471 clip this week....who wouldn't love to have that kind of production from their CI/3B?

Nice pickup Mel :tu

Alex Gordon is no slouch himself

[alamo50]

Well, we all played each other twice and there are now just 5 more weeks to go before the playoffs start.

I made a lil' sheet where y'all can see who got whose number so far.
Read it as the teams on the left being the home teams:

A Fraud's Atrain Bashers Dominican Each Hit Screwballs HeHangs alamo's EricB Boogie
A Fraud's X 0-2 1-1 0-1 0-2 0-2 2-0 2-0 1-1 1-0
Atrain 2-0 X 1-0 1-1 1-0 0-2 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1
Bashers 1-1 0-1 X 1-1 1-1 0-1 1-0 2-0 1-1 1-1
Dominican 1-0 1-1 1-1 X 0-2 0-2 0-2 0-2 1-0 1-1
Each Hit 2-0 0-1 1-1 2-0 X 0-2 1-1 0-1 2-0 1-1
Screwballs 2-0 2-0 1-0 2-0 2-0 X 0-2 1-1 1-0 1-1
HeHangs 0-2 1-1 0-1 2-0 1-1 2-0 X 1-1 1-1 2-0
alamo's 0-2 1-1 0-2 2-0 1-0 1-1 1-1 X 1-0 2-0
EricB 1-1 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-2 0-1 1-1 0-1 X 0-2
Boogie 0-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 0-2 0-2 2-0 X


Edit: I copied it from Excel, but no idea how to set it straight in here.
Go right ahead and fix it if one knows how.

One record is set already with the 5 weeks to go in the season.
BoogieKnights gets the Grizzly award for longest losing streak of the season at 8.

Good luck to most of the rest of y'all the rest of the way!

[whottt]

A Fraud's Atrain Bashers Dominican Each Hit Screwballs HeHangs alamo's EricB Boogie
A Fraud's X 0-2 1-1 0-1 0-2 0-2 2-0 2-0 1-1 1-0
Atrain 2-0 X 1-0 1-1 1-0 0-2 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1
Bashers 1-1 0-1 X 1-1 1-1 0-1 1-0 2-0 1-1 1-1
Dominican 1-0 1-1 1-1 X 0-2 0-2 0-2 0-2 1-0 1-1
Each Hit 2-0 0-1 1-1 2-0 X 0-2 1-1 0-1 2-0 1-1
Screwballs 2-0 2-0 1-0 2-0 2-0 X 0-2 1-1 1-0 1-1
HeHangs 0-2 1-1 0-1 2-0 1-1 2-0 X 1-1 1-1 2-0
alamo's 0-2 1-1 0-2 2-0 1-0 1-1 1-1 X 1-0 2-0
EricB 1-1 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-2 0-1 1-1 0-1 X 0-2
Boogie 0-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 0-2 0-2 2-0 X


That's not really fixed but it's a little better I think. Several of the number columns need to be bumped over one.

[Thunder Dan]

notice the 2-0 next to me and the 0-2 next to Screwballs

[alamo50]

Thanks for the effort whottt, but now it realy screws balls.

:pimpslap


Let me sum it up by the times a team is getting owned by another for sure so far:

Bashers = 0
Screwballs = 1
Atrain = 1
Each Hit = 1
HeHangs = 1
alamo's = 2
EricB = 2
Boogie = 2
A Fraud's = 3
Dominican = 4


And the teams doing the owning on another for sure so far:

Screwballs = 4
Each Hit = 3
HeHangs = 3
alamo's = 2
A Fraud's = 2
Bashers = 1
Atrain = 1
Boogie = 1
EricB = 0
Dominican = 0

[Thunder Dan]

Screwballs = 4
Each Hit = 3
HeHangs = 3
alamo's = 2
A Fraud's = 2
Bashers = 1
Atrain = 1
Boogie = 1
EricB = 0
Dominican = 0

might as well just add another 2 notchs to my total since I have 2 easy weeks coming up

[whottt]

notice the 2-0 next to me and the 0-2 next to Screwballs


That's pretty awesome. To tell you the truth, it's been so long since I saw your team anywhere near mine in the standings, I'd forgotten you even had a team.

Props, and thanks for the reminder :tu

[whottt]

By the way dan, did you know that fantasy baseball now has a new term?

Leading your league in waiver wire moves, by like a margin of 40-50 moves, while still being completely out of the playoff picture 20 weeks into the season...is now offically called "taking a big ole ThunderDan".

Props on immortality :tu

[Thunder Dan]

By the way dan, did you know that fantasy baseball now has a new term?

Leading your league in waiver wire moves, by like a margin of 40-50 moves, while still being completely out of the playoff picture 20 weeks into the season...is now offically called "taking a big ole ThunderDan".

Props on immortality :tu

why does everyone have a problem with me making roster moves? You guys say it like I should be ashamed or something

and plus, I'm only 11.5 games out with a couple weeks to play.

[whottt]

I don't have a problem with you making roster moves, I make a great deal of them myself. I'm just amazed at how shitty you are at it.


I mean look at it this way, either you are the shittiest waiver guy in history, or you are the shittiest drafter in history. It has be one or the other. Well, actually it could be both, but there's absolutely no way it's neither.

[Thunder Dan]

I don't have a problem with you making roster moves, I make a great deal of them myself, I'm just amazed at how shitty you are at it.


I mean look at it this way, either you are the shittiest waiver guy in history, or you are the shittiest drafter in history. It has be one or the other. It could actually be both.

waiver claims are more luck than skill, I just get what I need for the next day or week, I don't build my team around them.

[whottt]

waiver claims are more luck than skill

Ok, so then you're the shittiest drafter in history. Noted, with irony.


I just get what I need for the next day or week, I don't build my team around them.

Too bad it doesn't do you any good. Imagine if Truth made like, 1% of the waiver wire moves you do.

Imagine if Mel did...

[Thunder Dan]

[QUOTE=Thunder Dan;3628739]waiver claims are more luck than skill/quote]

Ok, so then you're the shittiest drafter in history. Noted, with irony.



Too bad it doesn't do you any good. Imagine if Truth made like, 1% of the waiver wire moves you do.

Imagine if Mel did...

again, they are free to do whatever they want.

[whottt]

No shit?

[Thunder Dan]

No shit?

well Truth was being a hard ass at the beginning of the season then gave up, I'm not a quitter, I give everything my all. If I'm going down, I'm going down fighting until the end. I'm not a quitter like the rest of the league. I'm 11.5 games out of the playoffs, my team is coming around and I have 5 weeks against teams I'm behind to pull it off, and if I get in the playoffs I have an easy first round matchup against a team I'm 2-0 against this season.

[alamo50]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kQ0pIAzIsz0/SOe4gLbi7MI/AAAAAAAABc0/26X8ur1wYPI/s400/rallymonkeyfood.jpg

[Thunder Dan]

Hahahaha I beat whott again even though he tried my old tricks, he still loses

[Melmart1]

MY team really faded over the weekend. I think I may have just played my way out of a playoff spot :(

[alamo50]

MY team really faded over the weekend.

No shame, as mine shined all week (especialy Roberts, Howard, Young, Broxton, Dempster and Feldman).

Feels good to go undefeated vs. last year's champ though.
Whottt, you next on the list brother.

:ihit

[ATRAIN]

Damn did you guys see the stats my team put up this past week. 17 HRS!!! I think thats the most my team has put up in a week. I had a few guys hit 2 on a given night.

[whottt]

Hahahaha I beat whott again even though he tried my old tricks, he still loses

Check the standings...look real closely at them. And those aren't your old tricks, if anything they're my old tricks.

On top of that, my team sucked this week and that was why I lost, not because you did anything special.

[Melmart1]

No shame, as mine shined all week (especialy Roberts, Howard, Young, Broxton, Dempster and Feldman).

Feels good to go undefeated vs. last year's champ though.
Whottt, you next on the list brother.

:ihit

Yours shined all week but had to wait for mine to crap the bed ... There is plenty of shame in that, on both our sides ... But, if I can't make the playoffs, I would rather Whottt kick your ass. No offense, but gotta go with my fellow Rangers fan ... so no matter what, I am rooting for whottt, that would be two Rangers fans in a row ...

[Melmart1]

Imagine if Mel did...

I didn't, and I won't ... I stand by my assertion that it just ain't right ...

[ATRAIN]

You mean your not rooting for me mel lol?

[Melmart1]

Sorry, Rangers fan before Astros fan ...

[ATRAIN]

Sorry, Rangers fan before Astros fan ...

So if Whott gets eliminated are you going for me? :)

[Melmart1]

So if Whott gets eliminated are you going for me? :)

I'll think about it. :)

[slayermin]

Hahahaha I beat whott again even though he tried my old tricks, he still loses

Regular season victories are hollow. I'll give you props if you beat whottt in the playoffs. Four straight over the best team in the league would be some feat but I don't think it's gonna happen.

[ATRAIN]

Looks like the Playoff teams are pretty much set unless there are some major last min collapses by either Slayer, Alamo, and Myself. im surprised Yahoo hasn't clinched the Screwballs yet. Just a quick question to the playoff teams. Are we going to do this the "right" way or are we going to do the add and drop pitcher war? I say lets duke it out with what we have of course not including injury or normal adds and drops. I just dont want to have to go overboard on the adds and drops. Also are the last 2 weeks the finals again?

[ATRAIN]

Thunderdan, nice climb to the middle of the pack from the bottom, but too little too late little guy.

[whottt]

Regular season victories are hollow. I'll give you props if you beat whottt in the playoffs. Four straight over the best team in the league would be some feat but I don't think it's gonna happen.

While he's technically beaten me three times, this is the only time I was actively trying to beat him. The first time I wasn't trying to beat anyone because I knew my team was going to suck the first month of the season, the second time I could have beaten or at least tied him just by starting some additional pitchers, like one or two.


This time I wanted to crush him 10-0 but my team pretty much sucked in every category except HR. I can live with it because I had 5 guys on the DL including two guys that were supposed to come off of it but didn't.

In any case, I don't really think my team is the best team in the league...it's just had timely good fortune and I've had to work to produce that record.

[slayermin]

While he's technically beaten me three times, this is the only time I was actively trying to beat him. The first time I wasn't trying to beat anyone because I knew my team was going to suck the first month of the season, the second time I could have beaten or at least tied him just by starting some additional pitchers, like one or two.


This time I wanted to crush him 10-0 but my team pretty much sucked in every category except HR. I can live with it because I had 5 guys on the DL including two guys that were supposed to come off of it but didn't.

In any case, I don't really think my team is the best team in the league...it's just had timely good fortune and I've had to work to produce that record.

Except for this last week, your team has been rolling all summer. And it looks like you get Justin Upton back very soon. An 11 game lead in a 10 team league is pretty impressive.

[alamo50]

Are we going to do this the "right" way or are we going to do the add and drop pitcher war?

As I understood, there will be a limit on roster moves during the playoffs.

[whottt]

Ya IIRC we decided there is a limit of 5 roster moves per week during the playoffs.

[Thunder Dan]

While he's technically beaten me three times, this is the only time I was actively trying to beat him. The first time I wasn't trying to beat anyone because I knew my team was going to suck the first month of the season, the second time I could have beaten or at least tied him just by starting some additional pitchers, like one or two.


This time I wanted to crush him 10-0 but my team pretty much sucked in every category except HR. I can live with it because I had 5 guys on the DL including two guys that were supposed to come off of it but didn't.

In any case, I don't really think my team is the best team in the league...it's just had timely good fortune and I've had to work to produce that record.

excuses excuses.

I was beating you from a hotel room, and didn't evne pay attention to it until sometime around Saturday when I noticed you were trying my old tricks. Funny thing was that you picked over all the pitchers, and I took leftovers and still beat you. I just knew I needed stolen bases and it was over. So good job by me on going out there and beating a team I was expected to beat

[ATRAIN]

After draft Free Agent Pickup of the season Award goes to

ATRAIN for picking up Aaron Hill and him getting his 20th homer yesterday. Thanks AH!!


Possibly the best 2nd baseman this year.

[Thunder Dan]

After draft Free Agent Pickup of the season Award goes to

ATRAIN for picking up Aaron Hill and him getting his 20th homer yesterday. Thanks AH!!


Possibly the best 2nd baseman this year.

the funny thing about that is that I was trying to add either him or Freddy Sanchez one day and was having trouble with it, I PMed FWDT to see if I could get some help, and my exact wording was "I don't give a shit who it is, Sanchez or Hill, I just want a warm body at 2nd base"

little did I know, that changed the fate of my whole season.

[ATRAIN]

the funny thing about that is that I was trying to add either him or Freddy Sanchez one day and was having trouble with it, I PMed FWDT to see if I could get some help, and my exact wording was "I don't give a shit who it is, Sanchez or Hill, I just want a warm body at 2nd base"

little did I know, that changed the fate of my whole season.

Yeah well I wasnt too happy with my 2nd baseman and I knew hill was good but injured last year. Picking him and Lind up was prob the best moves I made all year. Lind was dropped and Lopez was dropped and they have produced pretty well for me. You just cant lose faith in some of these guys so soon. Lind tore shit up and Lopez has been pretty good as of late. Oh yeah and now Q has been hitting good so that trade isnt looking too bad. My trade with you too has helped me dom pitching stats against other teams I have played.

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/111457/headtoheadstats?pt=P&type=record

[alamo50]

Hey Dan,


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mGxr_ZJHPKk/Sl7Q4gpU_kI/AAAAAAAADNY/qcPXfJaHMkU/s400/HANGMAN.gif


Yours sincerely,

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/a/a2/Jason_Roland_%28Earth-616%29.jpg

[whottt]

After draft Free Agent Pickup of the season Award goes to

ATRAIN for picking up Aaron Hill and him getting his 20th homer yesterday. Thanks AH!!


Possibly the best 2nd baseman this year.

I'm gonna have to disagree with that...

Mark Reynolds has 40 HR, 21 SB, 90RBI and is eligible at the 2 corner positions.

Ben Zobrist is eligible at the 2 MI positions, OF, has 23HR, 15 SB and a 400+ OBP%.


Both picked up off the waiver wire.


The pickups you had that impressed me the most were your pitching. I remember looking at your pitching after the draft and thinking it completely sucked, then you hit the waiver wire and pretty much hit the jackpot on your pitching pickups.


If you mean like immediately after the draft I guess Hill would be the best pickup.

[Thunder Dan]

7.5 Games out with 2 weeks to go.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/123Tony321/Goonies.jpg

[ATRAIN]

7.5 Games out with 2 weeks to go.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/123Tony321/Goonies.jpg

Damn going into sunday 5 to 5 then only coming out with 1 hurts. As long as I score as much or more than you im good.

[Thunder Dan]

Damn going into sunday 5 to 5 then only coming out with 1 hurts. As long as I score as much or more than you im good.

that was like a couple weeks ago when I was up 9-1 on Mel and ended up 5-5 after my pitching imploded

[ATRAIN]

Alamo kick dan's ass this week.

[Melmart1]

Alamo, kick Dan's ass, because him and I are tied and if someone is going to overtake Tranny for his spot, it's gonna be me!

Man, the fact that Atrain and I face off next week could have serious implications. And I thought watching the Rangers lately was bad for my ticker! :lol

[ATRAIN]

Alamo, kick Dan's ass, because him and I are tied and if someone is going to overtake Tranny for his spot, it's gonna be me!

Man, the fact that Atrain and I face off next week could have serious implications. And I thought watching the Rangers lately was bad for my ticker! :lol

LOL Id rather lose my spot to mel hahaha so yeah this last spot can be decided on my ultimate collapse. If I can whoop up on TIMVP then I should be safe but man its going to be rough. Good Luck Mel and Dan.

[Thunder Dan]

hey ATRAIN, how did Washburn do today my computer is broke

[ATRAIN]

hey ATRAIN, how did Washburn do today my computer is broke

then how are you posting? Last I checked he got 7 runs on him :(.

[Thunder Dan]

then how are you posting? Last I checked he got 7 runs on him :(.

hahaha, oh ok, I thought my computer was broken but it turns out he really did get shelled today! I'm making the comeback!

[ATRAIN]

hahaha, oh ok, I thought my computer was broken but it turns out he really did get shelled today! I'm making the comeback!

lol oh are you? The reason why I lost bad last week was cause I was pretty much giving myself that playoff spot and Karma spanked me. Thanks for turning back against you.

[Thunder Dan]

lol oh are you? The reason why I lost bad last week was cause I was pretty much giving myself that playoff spot and Karma spanked me. Thanks for turning back against you.

I scratch and claw until the very end. I don't quit. Champions never quit and Goonies never say die!


NOOOOOO! Tim didn't start Carlos Guillen on a day he is 4/4 with 2 home runs!

[ATRAIN]

I scratch and claw until the very end. I don't quit. Champions never quit and Goonies never say die!


NOOOOOO! Tim didn't start Carlos Guillen on a day he is 4/4 with 2 home runs!

Thank god for that

[alamo50]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kQ0pIAzIsz0/SgiN9EpqWkI/AAAAAAAAB7I/T5PtbRpHpzc/s320/rallymonkeytorii.jpg

[Thunder Dan]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kQ0pIAzIsz0/SgiN9EpqWkI/AAAAAAAAB7I/T5PtbRpHpzc/s320/rallymonkeytorii.jpg

Torii Hunter > Jason Bay

[alamo50]

Torii Hunter > Jason Bay

Bay 86 31 97 12 .383

Torii 64 19 75 15 .379




:lmao

[alamo50]

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/shu0386l.jpg

[whottt]

*cracks knuckles*














If A-Train can go 2-8 against Mel he's in.

If Melmart goes 9-0-1 against A-Train she's in.

If Melmart goes 9-1 against A-train it's a tie and I believe Melmart holds the tiebreaker(OBP and she'll have won more games in their matchups if she goes 9-1).

YHIIBI will show to be within 10 games of A-Train but due to the matchup between Mel and A-Train, any scenario which allows YHIIBI to tie or beat A-Train also means Melmart wins the spot by at least a half game....

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Buh-Bye now.

[FromWayDowntown]

I know we're still a week away from the playoffs -- I've been hard-pressed to keep up because: (1) life has changed dramatically (mostly in good ways) since this season began; and (2) my team has sucked so badly for so long (and my internet access during the work day has been very limited) that I've not been as diligent as I should have been -- but I just want to be sure that I have some certainty about a transaction cap for the post-season.

My recollection was that there had been an agreement about capping moves during the post-season, but can those who will be the combatants in that chase confirm or deny that for me?






Oh, and -- jeesh, my team has just absolutely sucked. I apologize to all of you for having put together such a joke of a fantasy team.

[Melmart1]

Damn, why couldn't FWD bend over and take it like a man? He had to fight me and my pitching staff, which decided to take a nap this week. I doubt I can put that epic of a hurt on Atrain, but that won't stop me from trying. At least I won't finish behind Dan.

[FromWayDowntown]

At least my team had one prideful effort to cap a shamefully bad season . . . .

[Melmart1]

At least my team had one prideful effort to cap a shamefully bad season . . . .

Yeah, but did they have to have it against me!? I am trying to make the playoffs here! You know you like me more than Atrain! Although that isn't saying much ... cus nobody likes Atrain. :lol

[whottt]

Just so ya know Mel, you can finish behind him...you've got a 1 1/2 game lead on him I believe.

[Melmart1]

Just so ya know Mel, you can finish behind him...you've got a 1 1/2 game lead on him I believe.

Shhhh! I am trying not to think of that.

[whottt]

Whup A-Train and you're golden.

[whottt]

My recollection was that there had been an agreement about capping moves during the post-season, but can those who will be the combatants in that chase confirm or deny that for me?



Yah, it's 5 moves per week. I guess 1 add = 1 move. Drops don't count as moves really unless they are moving someone off the DL...

I'm actually not sure if moving a guy off the DL counts as a move or not, we didn't really discuss it. But I know it only counts as a waiver move if you are adding someone to your roster....according to the waivermove counter in the standings.

[whottt]

Just hatching the other stuff out...Bashers can pass me next week, Alamo can pass Bashers, A-Train can pass Alamo, and Melmart can pass A-Train.


Anyway, good season FWDT and the rest of the guys, it's down to Melmart VS A-Train now.

[whottt]

BTW FWDT, the main thing I saw wrong with your team....you had too many projects that weren't contributing until it was too late. Basically those were dead roster spots that no one else had and you were playing with a short roster. In terms of player ranks you had one of the best teams in the league. I think I looked one time and you had the most top 100 hitters and pitchers(the most in both categories), and this was when you were in dead last place...but then there was a huge drop off after those players and the level went from very good to doing nothing, completely skipping mediocre. Too many projects that took too long to arrive I think...they eventually did arrive though so there's that at least.

[slayermin]

I'm just glad I survived April. My team is hot right now but makes me a little worried that they shot their load too early. I guess we will see.

This season has been fun. We have a great league and I hope we can keep it going for next season.

[FromWayDowntown]

BTW FWDT, the main thing I saw wrong with your team....you had too many projects that weren't contributing until it was too late. Basically those were dead roster spots that no one else had and you were playing with a short roster. In terms of player ranks you had one of the best teams in the league. I think I looked one time and you had the most top 100 hitters and pitchers(the most in both categories), and this was when you were in dead last place...but then there was a huge drop off after those players and the level went from very good to doing nothing, completely skipping mediocre. Too many projects that took too long to arrive I think...they eventually did arrive though so there's that at least.

Oh, I agree. I listened a bit too much to some of the fantasy wonks' rankings and no enough to my own feelings about projects -- Wieters would probably be a good pick next year, Chris Davis flatly sucked while with my team. Still another problem is that I got into a place where I was taking "the best available player" with several picks, and ended up with a bunch of quality OF, but no real depth in the infield or at catcher. And my belief that I could trade the OF for other needs never seemed to materialize. The other problem that I had was that I didn't balance my pitching particularly well and was scrambling for the first several months as a result, and I gambled (unknowingly) on Brandon Webb -- I can recall sitting there trying to decide between Webb and Haren -- and got about 6 crappy innings out of him all season.

[EricB]

No one could've anticipated Webb having to have shoulder surgery.

No shame in that.

[Thunder Dan]

it's a sad day in Fantasy baseball land (well Sunday) when the real organic teams and their fans missed the playoffs to computer generated rosters. This is no different than using steroids. It only cheats the fans


Anyway. Ill be back to capture the crown next year and I propose these changes to make the league better:

1) Minimum and Maximum number of starts per week. You need to start 5 pitchers a week, and can only start a maximum of like 8.

2) Obviously I proved we need a transaction limit.

3) and most importantly Teams that auto draft get kicked out of the league

[alamo50]

:lol

You will be missed......like the worst tooth ache ever!

Dude, I beat you in a week in which I lost both Michael Young and Grady Sizemore.

Who says you'll be allowed back into the league next season?
We must set a standard for quality GM's.

You have proven to not be able to back up anything you have been stating in here all season long.

I am pretty sure you won't even catch the smallest fish in the offseason.

[whottt]

Looks like FWDT is going to be uppity this week.

[Thunder Dan]

:lol

You will be missed......like the worst tooth ache ever!

Dude, I beat you in a week in which I lost both Michael Young and Grady Sizemore.

Who says you'll be allowed back into the league next season?
We must set a standard for quality GM's.

You have proven to not be able to back up anything you have been stating in here all season long.

I am pretty sure you won't even catch the smallest fish in the offseason.

Im the best owner in the league, nothing has changed. Dan Rooney doesn't win a Super Bowl every year.

[Thunder Dan]

I can really tell that I struck a nerve with you Alamo because your trashtalk has turned a dark corner where you actually don't like me. You gotta understand I'm just busting your balls.

[whottt]

I can really tell that I struck a nerve with you Alamo because your trashtalk has turned a dark corner where you actually don't like me. You gotta understand I'm just busting your balls.

He's just busting your balls back...and you're whining about it.



Must be nice to completely suck ass, talk shit like you are great, and still wind up the victim.



You talked a lot of shit from day 1...naturally when you do that, the primary instinct of everyone that hears you doing it is to shut you up. Don't cry foul when it comes time to reap what you sowed.

[Melmart1]

Looks like FWDT is going to be uppity this week.

He was uppity last week, too! :(

[Thunder Dan]

He's just busting your balls back...and you're whining about it.



Must be nice to completely suck ass, talk shit like you are great, and still wind up the victim.



You talked a lot of shit from day 1...naturally when you do that, the primary instinct of everyone that hears you doing it is to shut you up. Don't cry foul when it comes time to reap what you sowed.

No, Alamo's trash talk is different. I sense anger with him.

[whottt]

He was uppity last week, too! :(

Seriously, what's gotten into him?

[whottt]

No, Alamo's trash talk is different. I sense anger with him.

Maybe if you stopped talking shit and just admitted how thoroughly you got owned this past season....

[alamo50]

No, Alamo's trash talk is different. I sense anger with him.

Nah man, no anger here at all.
Never was and never will be.

It was kinda fun having you around.
Don't blame me for owning you in trash talking too.

;)

[Thunder Dan]

Maybe if you stopped talking shit and just admitted how thoroughly you got owned this past season....

I'm still the best owner in the league. All the others basically quit or had a computer pick their team.

[alamo50]

Just one quit (should have to pay a fine) and letting a computer pick your team has nothing to do with managing it (72 moves).

You should be ashamed of yourself daring to post in here after getting your ass handed to yourself.

YOU HANG DAN!

[Thunder Dan]

Just one quit (should have to pay a fine) and letting a computer pick your team has nothing to do with managing it (72 moves).

You should be ashamed of yourself daring to post in here after getting your ass handed to yourself.

YOU HANG DAN!

I'm a real man I don't back down in shame. I have balls the size of grapefruits

[Melmart1]

I'm still the best owner in the league. All the others basically quit or had a computer pick their team.

I never quit. I am still fighting, trying to get a playoff spot. Don't hate.

[alamo50]

I'm a real man I don't back down in shame. I have balls the size of grapefruits

?

Dude, you are done!

It's over!

Stop making roster moves!

Go take your balls to a big money football league or PLEASE join Dynasty Basketball League over here on SpursTalk.
There's at least one opening left in league 1 and possible 2 if Boogie Woogie is gonna quit over there too.

[whottt]

I'm a real man I don't back down in shame. I have balls the size of grapefruits

Dipshit, you are 9.5 games behind A-Train, and 1.5 behind Mel and Mel is playing A-Train. It is mathematically impossible for you to make the playoffs.


Understand this, if you make up 10 games on A-Train this week, that also means Mel made up 10 games on him, which leaves her a game and a half ahead of you.

IF you make up 9.5, that also means Mel made 8.5, which means Mel is still a game ahead of you.

If you make up 9 games, guess what? You needed 9.5 to tie, and Mel will still be a half game ahead of you.


You cannot make the playoffs.

[FromWayDowntown]

Seriously, what's gotten into him?

Strong finishing kick. I want to have that team that gets major props next preseason from all the big magazines for having finished up strong.





sigh.

Actually, I had just figured that whottt punted this week.

[Thunder Dan]

Dipshit, you are 9.5 games behind A-Train, and 1.5 behind Mel and Mel is playing A-Train. It is mathematically impossible for you to make the playoffs.


Understand this, if you make up 10 games on A-Train this week, that also means Mel made up 10 games on him, which leaves her a game and a half ahead of you.

IF you make up 9.5, that also means Mel made 8.5, which means Mel is still a game ahead of you.

If you make up 9 games, guess what? You needed 9.5 to tie, and Mel will still be a half game ahead of you.


You cannot make the playoffs.

I know that, but I still don't quit. I'm not a quitter

[ATRAIN]

Damn if any time Mel needed Tim L. Now is not the time for him to get hurt. He might be back by sunday Mel. Good luck.


If you take my spot then you earned that epic comeback and ill be rooting for you.

Dan, good try little guy but you fell short.

[Thunder Dan]

Let me ask all you something. If a team is eliminated in real baseball do they just not play anymore games? hell no. It's a matter of character, and as you all know I'm a character guy. I picked up 2 more closers that otherwise would be on Alamo's,Whott's, ATrain, or Mel's rosters so while I may be out of the playoffs, I still am playing a part as a member of the league.

[whottt]

Let me ask all you something. If a team is eliminated in real baseball do they just not play anymore games? hell no. It's a matter of character, and as you all know I'm a character guy. I picked up 2 more closers that otherwise would be on Alamo's,Whott's, ATrain, or Mel's rosters so while I may be out of the playoffs, I still am playing a part as a member of the league.

Usually when a team is eliminated in baseball they shut down their promising rookie staters and or vets who are pitching with various injuries and bring up their positional prospects and let them start playing, unless they have some veterans going for records and stuff...


They do try to win to an extent, but they are trying to do it with projects moreso than with the best team they can field...


Furthermore, their rosters usually, unlike the roster of your team. will be back more or less exactly the same the following year, so they are playing for next year as much if not more than for this year...





Why didn't you just say you're playing for 5th place? Click on the playoffs tab, then click on the consolation tab, and you'll see what I mean.

Grasshopper.

[Thunder Dan]

Usually when a team is eliminated in baseball they shut down their promising rookie staters and or vets who are pitching with various injuries and bring up their positional prospects and let them start playing, unless they have some veterans going for records and stuff...


They do try to win to an extent, but they are trying to do it with projects moreso than with the best team they can field...


Furthermore, their rosters usually, unlike the roster of your team. will be back more or less exactly the same the following year, so they are playing for next year as much if not more than for this year...





Why didn't you just say you're playing for 5th place? Click on the playoffs tab, then click on the consolation tab, and you'll see what I mean.

Grasshopper.

well if we had a keeper league I would be doing that, but since the guys on my team today might be the guys on your team next year I hope they all get hurt

[whottt]

well if we had a keeper league I would be doing that, but since the guys on my team today might be the guys on your team next year I hope they all get hurt

I'm sensing a lot of anger here.

[whottt]

Strong finishing kick. I want to have that team that gets major props next preseason from all the big magazines for having finished up strong.





sigh.

Actually, I had just figured that whottt punted this week.


Not at all...Bashers can pass me this week. And I haven't managed my team into first place for 22 weeks just to give it up on the final week.

Not only that but Alamo's team is red hot as well. He and Bashers deserve one another if you ask me.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm sensing a lot of anger here.

more than you could imagine

[whottt]

Anger is bad for you...sometimes you just need to sit back and put things in perspective. And does anything put things in perspective better than a good song?


When I think of your season, especially your matchups with me...one song immediately comes to mind and totally puts things in perspective...


MsaEfFHSheE


Enjoy :toast

[Thunder Dan]

Anger is bad for you...sometimes you just need to sit back and put things in perspective. And does anything put things in perspective better than a good song?


When I think of your season, especially your matchups with me...one song immediately comes to mind and totally puts things in perspective...


MsaEfFHSheE


Enjoy :toast

that was uncalled for

[alamo50]

I picked up 2 more closers that otherwise would be on Alamo's,Whott's, ATrain, or Mel's rosters so while I may be out of the playoffs, I still am playing a part as a member of the league.


Oh, now that you are hanging you do pick up closers?
I think it's just you being a royal pain in the ass over playing a part of the league.



As far as my team being red hot; the best pitching staff in the league is just doing it's work, but I can't wait for Michael Young to return a.s.a.p.!

[slayermin]

Not only that but Alamo's team is red hot as well. He and Bashers deserve one another if you ask me.

I'm dreading that matchup. It's never a good thing to be facing Ryan Howard in September.

[alamo50]

WOW, I realy didn't think it would happen but as of now Melly has kicked Atrain out of the playoffs (9-0).

It's gonna be fun following the games this weekend!

May the best win and face of vs. whottt in the semi's!

[Melmart1]

Don't jinx me, damnit! Most of the categories are still very close, anyone's game! Can somebody get me a stolen base, please?!

[FromWayDowntown]

If Mel pulls this off, it will be (IIRC), two years of heartbreaking defeats for ATRAIN. I think he had me beat in the Semis last year, until Zambrano no-hit the Astros in the last game of the week, giving me just enough to win WHIP and send ATRAIN to the consolation bracket.

And just enough for me to proceed to a Final in which Melmart absolutely kicked my ass.

[Melmart1]

I am trying really hard not to keep looking at the stats. Whether or not the Rangers get their double dip in today is going to really impact my final stats, and every category but one is super close. Because of the rain delays, we may not know the result of this till very late, which is odd for a Sunday.

[Melmart1]

7-1 now :( That's not going to do it.

[FromWayDowntown]

7-1 now :( That's not going to do it.

Sorry for the jinx. It was entirely inadvertent.

[Melmart1]

5-2 now. Still some players to go, anything can happen. I think I need to go take a nap and forget about it.

[alamo50]

Full steam ahead A!

Season's best are squaring of in the final four.

:lobt2:

[Melmart1]

Well, I had him reeling until Sunday, when my team tends to somehow fall apart. I gave it my all but with my three best (Lincecum, Peavy and Wolff) being injured, all of whom should have gone twice this week ... well, it just wasn't meant to be. Congrats to ATrain for advancing ... and GO RANGERS FANS!!!

[whottt]

Well, I had him reeling until Sunday, when my team tends to somehow fall apart. I gave it my all but with my three best (Lincecum, Peavy and Wolff) being injured, all of whom should have gone twice this week ... well, it just wasn't meant to be. Congrats to ATrain for advancing ... and GO RANGERS FANS!!!

Good try Mel, I thought you had him :tu

GL everyone else this week :tu

[ATRAIN]

Well, I had him reeling until Sunday, when my team tends to somehow fall apart. I gave it my all but with my three best (Lincecum, Peavy and Wolff) being injured, all of whom should have gone twice this week ... well, it just wasn't meant to be. Congrats to ATrain for advancing ... and GO RANGERS FANS!!!

WOW well I thought for sure Mel was going to beat me. She had me at 10-0 at the end of sat. I didnt even look at my team till sunday night. Mel you had me shitting bricks and I was very lucky to escape that. Good luck to Whott, Alamo, and Slayer. Should be interesting.

Hey FWD, are the pay outs the same as last year?

[slayermin]

Good luck to everyone.

I'm hoping for an epic finish to the season and our league, win or lose.

[ATRAIN]

Good luck to everyone.

I'm hoping for an epic finish to the season and our league, win or lose.

Like me barely holding on to my last playoff spot and going through and winning it all? Its a feel good story and I like it hahaha.

[alamo50]

No matter what happens, this league has been great.
I started the season knowing absolutely nothing about the MLB of current day and I ended it with knowing about 80% of the active players. Got the fun back!

Now let's see if we can expand that 5 game winning streak of mine........

Good luck to all y'all (except the one hangin' and the one who quit (he's out already, but still wanted to get my stab in))!



:lobt2:

[alamo50]

Good luck to everyone.

I'm hoping for an epic finish to the season and our league, win or lose.

Bad luck for you that the epic finish ain't happenin' in our matchup my friend.... The other semi's is gonna be an epic one for the ages though!
5-5 going in the final day!
I got the beer and snacks ready to find out who I'll be facing in THE Finals.

I'm waaaaaaaiiiitiiiiiing!

May the best one win.
I'll be rooting for you to get the bronze slayer!

:lobt2:

[slayermin]

Yeah, I was never in it. Oh well. I'll be back next year. At least I kept my playoff streak alive.

[whottt]

Nice game A-Train. Whew.

GL Bashers and A-Train in the next round. Bashers, you should join our dynasty basketball league basically it's everyone in this baseball league plus 10 other players.


Good luck this week Alamo :tu

[whottt]

If I win I'm dedicating the victoy to David Robinson.

[ATRAIN]

Nice game A-Train. Whew.

GL Bashers and A-Train in the next round. Bashers, you should join our dynasty basketball league basically it's everyone in this baseball league plus 10 other players.


Good luck this week Alamo :tu

Yeah man good game came down to the last day!! Im 2 for 2 in playoff appearances. Ill be back next year. Good luck to you two for the title.

[alamo50]

Bashers was only 1 of 2 teams (A Fraud's being the other one) to beat me the 2 times we faced during the regular season.
It was simply heat vs. freezing cold this week and I came out on top being the lucky one.

Good luck fighting for the bronze ATRAIN and slayermin!


Season's best squaring of in The Finals!
My squad is responsible for Screwballs3's 2 worst defeats of the season (1-8 and 2-8).
If I win again, I dedicate the victory to the city of San Antonio.

Losing both my short stops this week won't help my bid though.....
I'll just go in the garage again and fix my squad.
Let's see if I can still extend my winning streak to season't best 7 in a row!

Good luck whottt!
May the best GM win.

:lobt2:

[Thunder Dan]

Good luck whottt!
May the best GM win.

:lobt2:

lol.

Think of it like this...

Whott made a cake by milling his own flower, raising his own eggs, milking his own cows he raised and baked it himself

Alamo went to the grocery store, bought a cake they made there and called himself a baker

[alamo50]

I got the baking form (or how the heck you call it over there).
Had to change the form itself by hand and go to the store to buy and experiment with 83 new ingredients to bake that cake that's displayed for judgement in THE FINALS now.

You on the other hand just prooved again that you are the worst GM in here (quiting not counted) by picking up Ohlendorf after I cut him right after his last game 4 days ago because he has been shut down for the season!

It actualy says so in the note behind his name!

Damn, you suck hard.

Please join this league again next season?
Love collecting money this easy, especialy from you.


:lmao

[Thunder Dan]

congrats easy bake and congrats to the computer

[alamo50]

The season ain't over yet GM of the year.

[ATRAIN]

Nice game A-Train. Whew.

GL Bashers and A-Train in the next round. Bashers, you should join our dynasty basketball league basically it's everyone in this baseball league plus 10 other players.


Good luck this week Alamo :tu

Yeah man I think I should. Its amazing how fantasy sports make you learn more about a game and the players. What is a dynasty league? Are there any open slots?

[alamo50]

Dynasty League is a keeper league that has been started up several years ago. Contact LJ about it. He should get back into the swing of things soon as he is the commisioner.

Go take a look at the fantasy threads at the bottom on the main page.
Would be cool to see you there bro.

[ATRAIN]

Dynasty League is a keeper league that has been started up several years ago. Contact LJ about it. He should get back into the swing of things soon as he is the commisioner.

Go take a look at the fantasy threads at the bottom on the main page.
Would be cool to see you there bro.

Who's team would I take over and who are their keepers?

[slayermin]

I wish I knew we only got five transactions for the last two weeks. I can kiss third place goodbye.

Live and learn.

[alamo50]

I at least can honnestly tell you that I did not know either.

[slayermin]

I at least can honnestly tell you that I did not know either.

I think it's a yahoo thing. I'm sure it's in the fine print somewhere.

Good thing to know for next season.

[ATRAIN]

I think it's a yahoo thing. I'm sure it's in the fine print somewhere.

Good thing to know for next season.

You havent made any changes though?

[whottt]

Yeah man good game came down to the last day!! Im 2 for 2 in playoff appearances. Ill be back next year. Good luck to you two for the title.

I thought you were already in the league....

[alamo50]

I can't believe they pulled the plug out of the Live Stat Tracker for the matchups over at Yahoo for the final day of the season.

Suposedly the same thing happened last year.
Unfreakin'believable...........


If whottt get's one single stolen base more than me today, he wins it.

[slayermin]

You havent made any changes though?

Not sure what you mean. I have been managing my roster.

My dialogue with Alamo is about strategy. I would have saved a couple of my transactions for the final week if I knew we only had five for the entire two week matchup.

[alamo50]

I hope we can shift this fantasy league to CBSSports next year.
This turns out to realy suck over here on Yahoo.

Don't understand why the people who played here last year didn't complain.

[alamo50]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/3006780451_86a22b8ae9.jpg

:king

[ATRAIN]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/3006780451_86a22b8ae9.jpg

:king

Congrats

BTW

I would have beaten you 5-4 :toast

[whottt]

If whottt get's one single stolen base more than me today, he wins it.


My team took a big dump in both OBP and SB during this matchup after being in the top in those two categories all season long...even worse I think that day I tried to load up on SB the first week might have cost me OBP...and I didn't get a single SB from doing it either.

Anyway, congrats.



Look forward to doing this again next season. Good season all.

[alamo50]

Congrats

BTW

I would have beaten you 5-4 :toast


Thanks!

BTW

No way to tell, as I had to adjust my strategy to whottt's and not start a single pitcher all week. Congratulations with 2nd loser though!

;)




Whottt,

You just needed 1 SB on the final day to defeat me and you play with 2 empty roster spots? I don't get it, but thanks for the dough bro!

My team took a total dump in HR's and SB's.
Very lucky to win this with these numbers.
Pitching was my stronghold all season long and now my offense wins it for me.

As I said at the beginning of the season, I knew nothing about the current MLB coming in this fantasy league, but I am completely up-to-date now and enjoyed following the season closely with most of you in here.

Rules explanation was shaky and hopefully that will be better monitored in here next season. I'll be sure to defend my title next season.

What most of you are unaware of that 95% of the games were played when I was asleep over here in the middle of the night in The Netherlands, so I was unable to fill up empty roster spots for late games.

I was very motivated to get out of bed in the morning and get to work so look at my squad's stats and scout the available players.

What was very cool for me is that the players I picked up during the week, got a mentioning in the fantasy articles on the web the next week. I NEVER made a move based on a fantasy column.

Thank y'all for playing and see most of you in the SpursTalk Dynasty League 1 soon (hope LJ will continue to put in the shitload of work soon and pay the administration fee, because I can't enter my team's page anymore).

And to the one's that can't stand a foreigner winning:

At least you guys won the World Cup again.

:king

[slayermin]

Congrats, Alamo! Well deserved championship.

[ATRAIN]

Congrats, Alamo! Well deserved championship.

Yes I agree and nice to see a championship and playoffs for that matter gone through without the clusterfuck we had last year.

[alamo50]

Yes I agree and nice to see a championship and playoffs for that matter gone through without the clusterfuck we had last year.

What clusterfuck went on?

[Thunder Dan]

I propose a min and max of starts per week next year. That would be the only rule I would tweak

[ATRAIN]

I propose a min and max of starts per week next year. That would be the only rule I would tweak

Well I dont know if that can be enforced by yahoo. Its just min innings pitched.

[ATRAIN]

What clusterfuck went on?

once playoffs started some managers were dropping their starters at midnight for a pitcher that was playing the next day and it was constant. Really messes up wins and strikeouts. I dont think it worked but its pretty much a crap strategy.

[Thunder Dan]

Well I dont know if that can be enforced by yahoo. Its just min innings pitched.

I think it's weekly lineups. Like you set your lineup on Monday and you can't change it until Sunday. I like that system because I totally abused the system at times this year. If I was down WHIP or ERA, just start adding bodies to get K's and wins. I really takes away from drafting good pitchers, which I didn't do because of how the system was.

It's like the opposite of what Tim was going with all the relief pitchers going for whip and ERA, and punting K's and Wins

[ATRAIN]

I think it's weekly lineups. Like you set your lineup on Monday and you can't change it until Sunday. I like that system because I totally abused the system at times this year. If I was down WHIP or ERA, just start adding bodies to get K's and wins. I really takes away from drafting good pitchers, which I didn't do because of how the system was.

It's like the opposite of what Tim was going with all the relief pitchers going for whip and ERA, and punting K's and Wins

WEll thats how he drafted his team, good strategy IMO. Your talking about Rotto league ( I think thats what its called) Where you set your lineup once and then thats it. The thing is dan you were really the only one that really abused this. Yes Im sure some of us did tha too but for the most part my pitching didnt change unless the pitcher got demoted or hurt.

[Thunder Dan]

WEll thats how he drafted his team, good strategy IMO. Your talking about Rotto league ( I think thats what its called) Where you set your lineup once and then thats it. The thing is dan you were really the only one that really abused this. Yes Im sure some of us did tha too but for the most part my pitching didnt change unless the pitcher got demoted or hurt.

that's not true. At one point in the season Eric, Whott and Alamo used this strategy when they were getting killed with ERA and/or Whip and needed wins and K's.

And what makes the way I drafted and the way Tim drafted any different? We were both basically punting 2 categories to help the chances of winning 2 others.

[ATRAIN]

that's not true. At one point in the season Eric, Whott and Alamo used this strategy when they were getting killed with ERA and/or Whip and needed wins and K's.

And what makes the way I drafted and the way Tim drafted any different? We were both basically punting 2 categories to help the chances of winning 2 others.

Well you drafted and had that mindset going in and did it really help you in the long run, no you missed playoffs even when my team was holding the door open for you and mel. Timvp drafted a solid team last year and made playoffs but he was up against a superior team in Melmarts last year (which ended up winning it all anyways). He tried this tactic and it failed. Yes it can help give you wins and K's but it also backfires and raises your era and whip. I am not saying anyone didnt use it. I had 1 or 2 pitcher slots that were expendable and would envoke this strategy but when you base your whole pitching mindset on this in the long run doesnt work for you. My draft strategy was to go heavy on starting studs and if you look I won on my pitching most of the time. Of course you live and die buy it too. The only reason why I traded you Haren was because you didnt give me the wins I would have liked and the sight of one of the best closers in the league made me think other wise. I prob won saves from time to time with papel alone.

[Thunder Dan]

Well you drafted and had that mindset going in and did it really help you in the long run, no you missed playoffs even when my team was holding the door open for you and mel. Timvp drafted a solid team last year and made playoffs but he was up against a superior team in Melmarts last year (which ended up winning it all anyways). He tried this tactic and it failed. Yes it can help give you wins and K's but it also backfires and raises your era and whip. I am not saying anyone didnt use it. I had 1 or 2 pitcher slots that were expendable and would envoke this strategy but when you base your whole pitching mindset on this in the long run doesnt work for you. My draft strategy was to go heavy on starting studs and if you look I won on my pitching most of the time. Of course you live and die buy it too. The only reason why I traded you Haren was because you didnt give me the wins I would have liked and the sight of one of the best closers in the league made me think other wise. I prob won saves from time to time with papel alone.

your draft strategy was not showing up and taking whatever the computer picked for you!

[ATRAIN]

your draft strategy was not showing up and taking whatever the computer picked for you!

Its called pre rank my good friend. Plus I only missed the first 3 rounds, I showed up late.

[alamo50]

that's not true. At one point in the season Eric, Whott and Alamo used this strategy when they were getting killed with ERA and/or Whip and needed wins and K's.

I never applied that strategy.



I await my price money and trophy.

[whottt]

Whottt,

You just needed 1 SB on the final day to defeat me and you play with 2 empty roster spots? I don't get it, but thanks for the dough bro!]


And to think, I could have put the guys on my roster that got those stolen bases in those spots...my bad. I just....gave you that money I guess.


That comment leaves me no doubt that the better GM did not win...no offense.

[ATRAIN]

And to think, I could have put the guys on my roster that got those stolen bases in those spots...my bad. I just....gave you that money I guess.


That comment leaves me no doubt that the better GM did not win...no offense.

Yes he did, he won 3rd

[alamo50]

That comment leaves me no doubt that the better GM did not win...no offense.


Hahaha, I beat your sorry ass 3 times this season!
How can I take offense when I walk away with the dough?

Take your defeat as a man and stop whining.

[Thunder Dan]

That comment leaves me no doubt that the better GM did not win...no offense.

I know. He got 5th place. But now Whott sees what I'm saying about this damn auto drafting. Funny that the 2 people claiming to be the best GM are autodrafters.

[ATRAIN]

I know. He got 5th place. But now Whott sees what I'm saying about this damn auto drafting. Funny that the 2 people claiming to be the best GM are autodrafters.

Its funny how you keep claiming that im an "autodrafter" when I made the draft. Maybe you should autodraft next year and maybe you will actually make playoffs.

[Thunder Dan]

Its funny how you keep claiming that im an "autodrafter" when I made the draft. Maybe you should autodraft next year and maybe you will actually make playoffs.

i'll never compromise my integrity. I'll never make let computers make decisions for me.

[ATRAIN]

i'll never compromise my integrity. I'll never make let computers make decisions for me.

im sure it would do a better job drafting.

[alamo50]

http://www.dreamstime.com/bullseye-thumb7899953.jpg



Are you still talking trash?!?!?
Hahahaha, you remain the joker of fantasy baseball.

You should be ashamed of yourself to not draft any better than the pre-rankings from Yahoo. I knew absolutely NOTHING about the current MLB and I got the trophy to show for it that therefore I am the best GM in this league this year.

You know what?
Next year is gonna be exactly the same!

:lmao

[FromWayDowntown]

Congrats to alamo and to the others who made the playoffs and fell victim to his team.

I will work on getting the payments out today or tomorrow at the latest.

[ATRAIN]

Congrats to alamo and to the others who made the playoffs and fell victim to his team.

I will work on getting the payments out today or tomorrow at the latest.

What were the payouts just curious :)?

[whottt]

Hahaha, I beat your sorry ass 3 times this season!
How can I take offense when I walk away with the dough?

Take your defeat as a man and stop whining.


You made a stupid comment about stolen bases...hey Einstein, no one on my roster got any stolen bases on Sunday, therefore my decision to leave two roster spots open in no way determined the outcome which means your stupid comment thanking me for the dough was just that...a stupid comment.

Self aggrandizing ass.


You don't even have a clue you were the guy who waived Mark Reynolds do you?


Tell me slick, what was behind the strategy to waive a guy who would go on to put up 40hr and 20sb this year and be eligible for 2 positions....which pretty much made him the most valuable fantasy player in the league this year.


That's not a positive GM move...it's a negative one, a huge one. It's just short of waiving Albert Pujols....you won despite yourself, much like your decision to match my pitching strategy cost you whip.

Nothing you did caused my team, which was the best in OPB and or SB for pretty much most of the season to completely tank this weeek. And it was only as close as it was because you stupidly gave me whip.

[FromWayDowntown]

What were the payouts just curious :)?

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the payouts were to go like this:

3rd and 4th each get back their $25 entry fee.

2nd place gets $50

1st place gets $100.

_____________________________

10 owners * $25 entry fee = $250 total funds
2 * $25 = $50 to playoff qualifiers
remaining pot is $150
66% to winner
33% to 2nd

[ATRAIN]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the payouts were to go like this:

3rd and 4th each get back their $25 entry fee.

2nd place gets $50

1st place gets $100.

_____________________________

10 owners * $25 entry fee = $250 total funds
2 * $25 = $50 to playoff qualifiers
remaining pot is $150
66% to winner
33% to 2nd

I think third should get more .................. im just sayin :).

[alamo50]

You made a stupid comment about stolen bases...hey Einstein, no one on my roster got any stolen bases on Sunday, therefore my decision to leave two roster spots open in no way determined the outcome which means your stupid comment thanking me for the dough was just that...a stupid comment..


You didn't know up front you wouldn't get a SB from these guys on Sunday.
Leaving 2 roster slots open was just plain stupid on your part.
You benched both Upton and Cabrera!!!

You can come in here and type a lot of words to hide behind, but the fact remains you as stupid as fuck!




"Self aggrandizing ass".


:lobt2:




You don't even have a clue you were the guy who waived Mark Reynolds do you?


Tell me slick, what was behind the strategy to waive a guy who would go on to put up 40hr and 20sb this year and be eligible for 2 positions....which pretty much made him the most valuable fantasy player in the league this year.


That's not a positive GM move...it's a negative one, a huge one. It's just short of waiving Albert Pujols....you won despite yourself, much like your decision to match my pitching strategy cost you whip.


Reynolds was drafted in round 25 genius.
I ain't got no crystal ball like yo mama!

I made the GM move of the year trading for the most valuable fantasy player in the league this year.



Nothing you did caused my team, which was the best in OPB and or SB for pretty much most of the season to completely tank this weeek. And it was only as close as it was because you stupidly gave me whip.


How dare you put your gay fingers on those keys and pound them to make it appear you are the one talking smack after winning it all?
If I hadn't played along with your filthy game, WHIP wouldn't have been this close smart ass.

I BEAT YOU 3 TIMES THIS YEAR!
DEAL WITH IT!
YOU LOST!

:king


Please come again.

[alamo50]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the payouts were to go like this:

3rd and 4th each get back their $25 entry fee.

2nd place gets $50

1st place gets $100.

_____________________________

10 owners * $25 entry fee = $250 total funds
2 * $25 = $50 to playoff qualifiers
remaining pot is $150
66% to winner
33% to 2nd


I have no idea, because it ain't mentioned anywhere.
I'll accept this proposal though.

P.S.
Whottt should get fined for being a bad loser though.

:cry

[FromWayDowntown]

I have no idea, because it ain't mentioned anywhere.
I'll accept this proposal though.

P.S.
Whottt should get fined for being a bad loser though.

:cry

I think it got mentioned in the thread from last year, which is where the conversation for this year's league got started. But I'm almost 100% sure it's the payout scheme I used last year. It strikes me as being fair.

[whottt]

Whottt should get fined for being a bad loser though.

:cry


No, if you want to see what a bad loser looks like you should check some of your threads in the dynasty league from last year. This is what xsomeone putting someone, who is wrong, in their place looks like...


It's not so much your smugness irking the shit out of me btw, it's the the fact that you're wrong and think you're right. That always irks me no matter who it is or when it is. And you think you are right because you won....and that's even more wrong.


You beat me 3 times this year? Whooo, I think my streak against you in dynasty leagues is like....80 or something.


Like I said...feel free to show me the guys on my roster that got the stolen bases since you are thanking me for passing them up and thus giving you the league. Hint, it wasn't Cabrera or Upton, and it wasn't Stewart, and it damn sure wasn't Dan Uggla either...so just where are these missing SB you wrongly think gave you the league?


Otherwise just stfu and keep your gloating based in reality. And btw, I feel I was plenty cordial in congratulating you, it's you that took it to the ass level. Winning doesn't give the you the right to be wrong....especially when you are being an ass on top of it.


I figure what I was doing will hit you sometime in March of 2015 at the earliest, although you actually had to ask me why I waived Josh Beckett and think my streategy to use my closers is some kind of devious act...so I may be overly optimistic....then again, maybe I should just say if ever, because you think you know everything and that usually closes the door more thoroughly than anything else.


Until then, Mark Reynolds for Marcu Scuatro gming? :lmao no doubt that was the greatest autodraft in history.

[whottt]

On the roster limits during the regular season, I don't care if we do it or not but anything under 5 moves per week is pretty draconian, and Dan was the only one to average over 5 moves per week this season during the regular season and that's including the playoff totals in the regular season totals for everyone else. I hate that streaming pitchers strategy....I did it twice this season once against Bashers and once against Dan...neither time did it work(and it seldom does but always has a chance to do so). I don't know that I've ever seen it work....but it sucks during the playoffs because if someone is doing it and you are counting on winning wins and k's you pretty much have to do it.

[alamo50]

No, if you want to see what a bad loser looks like you should check some of your threads in the dynasty league from last year. This is what xsomeone putting someone, who is wrong, in their place looks like....

No idea what you are talking about.
I was being cussed out for not trying to win the whole thing immediately, but instead I am enjoying the following of high school players and therefore expanding my knowledge of the game and putting together a dream team for the near future......still thinking on what to do this upcoming draft.



It's not so much your smugness irking the shit out of me btw, it's the the fact that you're wrong and think you're right. That always irks me no matter who it is or when it is. And you think you are right because you won....and that's even more wrong.

Of course the winner is always right!
You realy need to lay of on thinking you are the king of smack or whatever.
You ain't getting the best of me. I am a man of facts and I will smash you around the head with them. Your strategy failed you, I beat you.


You beat me 3 times this year? Whooo, I think my streak against you in dynasty leagues is like....80 or something.

We are talking baseball here! You bring up DYNASTY Fantasy League Basketball?

............................. :lmao



Like I said...feel free to show me the guys on my roster that got the stolen bases since you are thanking me for passing them up and thus giving you the league. Hint, it wasn't Cabrera or Upton, and it wasn't Stewart, and it damn sure wasn't Dan Uggla either...so just where are these missing SB you wrongly think gave you the league?


You realy don't get it.
You screwed up!
Those 2 I mentioned had 20+ stolen bases on the season and you played with 2 empty roster spots!!!
Read it and resist the temptation of being an asshole in writing again!

You didn't give me anything, during the entire season I was in the upper rankings. I started on top and I finsih on top. It ain't a crime to give me the deserved respect. I DO NOT ASK FOR RESPECT, but I certainly didn't ask for your bitching.



Otherwise just stfu and keep your gloating based in reality. And btw, I feel I was plenty cordial in congratulating you, it's you that took it to the ass level. Winning doesn't give the you the right to be wrong....especially when you are being an ass on top of it.

I deserved to gloat.
I beat 9 US MLB followers, so damn right I am beaming like Kobe Bryant's chick's ring. If you think that is acting like an ass, you're just a bad loser...hey, that ain't a question, you most defenitely are a very bad loser. Even Dan ain't as fucked up as you are acting recently.....he didn't congratulate me yet, but he doesn't have to.



I figure what I was doing will hit you sometime in March of 2015 at the earliest, although you actually had to ask me why I waived Josh Beckett and think my streategy to use my closers is some kind of devious act...so I may be overly optimistic....then again, maybe I should just say if ever, because you think you know everything and that usually closes the door more thoroughly than anything else.

You admitted in the matchup comments that you fucked up by dropping both Beckett and Buchholz because you failed to see that the last matchup week concisted of 2 weeks. So don't come in here acting like you knew what you are doing. You have no fucking clue.



Until then, Mark Reynolds for Marcu Scuatro gming? :lmao no doubt that was the greatest autodraft in history.

I made that move less than 2 weeks into the season. Did you see in your mama's crystal ball that Reynomds would have a career year? I never even heard of the guy, when I saw him on my roster after the draft. I did research and found out that Scutaro had a great start and picked him up. Turns out he weas the surprise of the year. GM move gone bad? Nah, not in my book.[/QUOTE]

[whottt]

Of course the winner is always right!
You realy need to lay of on thinking you are the king of smack or whatever.
You ain't getting the best of me. I am a man of facts and I will smash you around the head with them. Your strategy failed you, I beat you.






We are talking baseball here! You bring up DYNASTY Fantasy League Basketball?

............................. :lmao

Well if you are so fucking great now...you must reeeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllllllllllly suck in fantasy basketball. You been in that league 4 or 5 years and you still were tanking to get the #1 pick this year.






You realy don't get it.
You screwed up!
Those 2 I mentioned had 20+ stolen bases on the season

No really? I had no fucking clue how many stolen based they had...I picked up Cabrera for his defense.

Damn, and to think, I could have started a guy who got not stolen bases on Sunday to get those two stolen bases....stupid, silly me.




and you played with 2 empty roster spots!!!
Read it and resist the temptation of being an asshole in writing again!

Did they get the two stolen based of which you speak?

Yes or no?


It's incomarably stupid what you are doing...this is like failing to win the lottery because someone didn't pick numbers 47 and 26 and you coming back and saying, boy are you stupid, you could have picked 35 and 14 instead.


Idiot.




You didn't give me anything, during the entire season I was in the upper rankings. I started on top and I finsih on top. It ain't a crime to give me the deserved respect. I DO NOT ASK FOR RESPECT, but I certainly didn't ask for your bitching.

Go fuck yourself and your respect it's a fucking game...


No wonder you went schizo in fantasy basketball last year.





I deserved to gloat.
I beat 9 US MLB followers, so damn right I am beaming like Kobe Bryant's chick's ring. If you think that is acting like an ass, you're just a bad loser...hey, that ain't a question, you most defenitely are a very bad loser. Even Dan ain't as fucked up as you are acting recently.....he didn't congratulate me yet, but he doesn't have to.




You admitted in the matchup comments that you fucked up by dropping both Beckett and Buchholz because you failed to see that the last matchup week concisted of 2 weeks. So don't come in here acting like you knew what you are doing. You have no fucking clue.




I made that move less than 2 weeks into the season. Did you see in your mama's crystal ball that Reynomds would have a career year? I never even heard of the guy, when I saw him on my roster after the draft. I did research and found out that Scutaro had a great start and picked him up. Turns out he weas the surprise of the year. GM move gone bad? Nah, not in my book.[/QUOTE]



I will tell you how much respect I have for you, you incomparably ignorant smug ass...

I want no part of any league, your whining, gloating, paranoid fucking ass is a part off. I don't care if you suck in it or not.


I do this for fun, not because I base my self esteem upon it, and playing in a league with people like you, is not fun.


So go fuck yourself.

There's your respect you giant douche bag horses ass.

And I'll make this prediction too...any league you are part of is going to be short lived one if you keep accusing people of tanking and accusing commisioners of deceptive practice, your bullshit nearly destroyed that dynasty league last year.


Good luck, I suggest you adjust your stupid fucking attitude.


People don't like being accused of tanking and corruption, idiot. Just a word of warning. And gloating, LUCKY, winners are the most insufferable of them all.


I know, I know...it's just because I can't handle you winning, I mean it's not like FWDT has ever won a fantasy basketball league, or Melmart won this league last year or anything.


Oh great winner...

What a fucking douche.


Let me know when you find those two stolen bases...

[alamo50]

Well if you are so fucking great now...you must reeeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllllllllllly suck in fantasy basketball. You been in that league 4 or 5 years and you still were tanking to get the #1 pick this year....


Hahaha, you don't even read what I write dumbass.
You are so full of yourself that you got the "(re)actions" ready no mather what my reply is.





No really? I had no fucking clue how many stolen based they had...I picked up Cabrera for his defense.

Damn, and to think, I could have started a guy who got not stolen bases on Sunday to get those two stolen bases....stupid, silly me.




Did they get the two stolen based of which you speak?

Yes or no?


http://medias.cafebabel.com/7435/thumb/355/-/post-dictatorship-spanish-television-20-years-after-the-crystal-ball-spanish-post-dictatorship-television-children.jpg



It's incomarably stupid what you are doing...this is like failing to win the lottery because someone didn't pick numbers 47 and 26 and you coming back and saying, boy are you stupid, you could have picked 35 and 14 instead.


Idiot.




Go fuck yourself and your respect it's a fucking game....

Except I won the lottery and you are the one complaing that I realy did not have the winning numbers.



No wonder you went schizo in fantasy basketball last year.



I will tell you how much respect I have for you, you incomparably ignorant smug ass...

I want no part of any league, your whining, gloating, paranoid fucking ass is a part off. I don't care if you suck in it or not.


I do this for fun, not because I base my self esteem upon it, and playing in a league with people like you, is not fun.


So go fuck yourself.

There's your respect you giant douche bag horses ass.

And I'll make this prediction too...any league you are part of is going to be short lived one if you keep accusing people of tanking and accusing commisioners of deceptive practice, your bullshit nearly destroyed that dynasty league last year.....

Man, you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.
It's personal now.
I just keep explaining myself so that others won't drown in your bullshit so here we go:

I am the one falsely accused of tanking, because I picked high school stars instead of NBA players. I focus on the future and not on the present. Dynasty League remember? I follow the rules, so if I play in a league I want others to follow the rules too. If I have a suspicion that somebody else is not playing fair, I report it. Simple as that. I was even asked to be a Dynasty League "cop" to be sure everybody was playing according to the rules, but I declined to do so for Dynasty League 2, too.





Good luck, I suggest you adjust your stupid fucking attitude.


People don't like being accused of tanking and corruption, idiot. Just a word of warning.

Oh great winner...

I need no good luck from you, you misserable dumb fuck.




So we got one free spot in SpursTalk Basketball Dynasty League 1!
Anybody feels challenged to make something out of the mess whottt leaves behind?

[Thunder Dan]

On the roster limits during the regular season, I don't care if we do it or not but anything under 5 moves per week is pretty draconian, and Dan was the only one to average over 5 moves per week this season during the regular season and that's including the playoff totals in the regular season totals for everyone else. I hate that streaming pitchers strategy....I did it twice this season once against Bashers and once against Dan...neither time did it work(and it seldom does but always has a chance to do so). I don't know that I've ever seen it work....but it sucks during the playoffs because if someone is doing it and you are counting on winning wins and k's you pretty much have to do it.

I personally believe that U.S. American leagues are better when you limit the number of pitchers you can play a week (weekly lineups). I was in a ESPN league that let you do it and by doing it such as it places greater emphasis on drafting solid pitchers and a more complete team.

To be honest, this was the first year I played in a league with no transaction limits and daily roster movements which is why I had so many transactions. Think of it like a guy who just got out of jail, he is probably going to eat junk food every night and party.

Now, having done both leagues, I like weekly lineups better for these reasons:

1. You have to actually draft well. I drafted a ton of Outfielders knowing that most of them would be dropped for whoever the flavor or the week was. If I needed Steals, I just picked up a bunch of fast guys and put them in my lineup, same thing with runs. Weekly lineups prevent that and make you have to draft a better all around team. This is the same with pitchers, you only get a max of 6 starters for the week, so you have to make sure you drafted soild pitchers. And you can't just give up on ERA and/or WHIP for wins and K's like I did many times. There is strategy that plays into this method. Say for example your opponent has Lincecum that week and he is pitching twice that week, you also have a 2 start starter who isn't that great. Do you risk his 2 starts to keep yourself in Wins and Strikeouts? or say you have Grady Sizemore and he is a career .187 hitter in Seattle, and the Indians have a weekend series in Seattle....do you start him?

2. It allows you to dedicate 1 day to fantasy baseball rather than taking up your whole summer. If you just do your work on Monday setting your lineup, you are set for the week. You don't have to worry about anything unless you have to make a move because of a guy getting put on the DL

3. You can still make moves, but you will have to think them through more. I picked up so many guys this year just because I needed whatever they offered. For example, Nyjer Morgan was good for a weekend when I was down SBs, and Matsui was good when I needed a HR or something. With weekly lineups you have to do all the planning on Monday which means there is more strategy rather than just dumpster diving for stats.

[Melmart1]

I need some clarification regarding weekly lineups-- What happens if one of your players gets injured? Are you just screwed the whole damn week? Seems unfair to be penalized for injuries when there are healthy people on your bench you could have rotated out. What about injured players with minor scrapes who don't get put on the DL and just sit out a few games ... are you screwed there?

[whottt]

Hahaha, you don't even read what I write dumbass.
You are so full of yourself that you got the "(re)actions" ready no mather what my reply is.



Except I won the lottery and you are the one complaing that I realy did not have the winning numbers.


I don't give a flying fuck that you won idiot...the point is that the outcome would not have changed had I started any other players...and you are simply too fucking stupid to get that.


The outcome would not have changed no matter who I started you gloating, stupid, horses ass.





Man, you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.
It's personal now.
I just keep explaining myself so that others won't drown in your bullshit so here we go:

I am the one falsely accused of tanking, because I picked high school stars instead of NBA players. I focus on the future and not on the present. Dynasty League remember? I follow the rules, so if I play in a league I want others to follow the rules too. If I have a suspicion that somebody else is not playing fair, I report it. Simple as that. I was even asked to be a Dynasty League "cop" to be sure everybody was playing according to the rules, but I declined to do so for Dynasty League 2, too.


Others? Idiot?


Do you realize that people you called out, are in this league?


You want the link where you accuse Melmart of tanking?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118545


Or the one where you sugggest timvp should be removed as commissioner and replaced by yourself?


Or do you just want to look in this thread where you accuse Truth of tanking?



You really are fucking stupid...I say it with ease, any league which you are a major part of, counted on to be the glue so to speak, will not last long.


Because you are a fucking dick.


I hope you do get to become commish of d-league 1...you watch how fast people completely bail on that league with your NAZI, paranoid, unaccountable sore losing fucking ass in charge of it.











I need no good luck from you, you misserable dumb fuck.

Oh yes you do.





So we got one free spot in SpursTalk Basketball Dynasty League 1!
Anybody feels challenged to make something out of the mess whottt leaves behind?


The only mess is your team...I don't think anyone in that league has sucked as badly as you for near as long. IT's all about the wins and losses...



Your philosophy, not mine...if you win you are god, and if you don't you should shut up and listen, and since you most certainly do not win in that league and live at the bottom of it and have for half a decade....you should just shut the fuck up and listen to your betters.


And you completely miss the point on me wanting no part of any league you are in...I'm not going to leave them, it is my intent to force you out of them...and every time you whine, bitch, accuse, I am going to be there calling you out for it.


You see, you are not needed...I actually groaned when I found out you were going to join this baseball league, because I knew you were going to accuse people of tanking, which you did, and take it too seriously, which you do...


What I did not know, because I had never seen you have any sort of success...is what a truly classless detestable winner you would be...it's like the worst of both worlds.


I am not leaving this league because of you dickface...I've been in it for 3 years now, and enjoyed it more when you weren't a part of it...it is my intent to force you out of it, and it's going to be easier and easier every time you accuse someone of tanking or prove what a classless winner you can be...the most classless, I have ever seen.


It's simple really, because you are so fucking stupid....when you lose you cry conspiracy, which means you will no doubt accuse FWDT of being corrupt as you did timvp...or you get mad at the people getting in the way of your tanking.

If you win, you will be so smug that people simply will not be able to stand being around you.


The only way for you to win, is for you to shut the fuck up, and be seen not heard...

Know your place to so speak.

I am not going to leave...I just have to wait until people get as sick of your bullshit as I am...that's not going to take long.


Unless you siimply admit you are indeed a true dickhead, apologize for it, and stop being one. The sooner you start shutting up, the better.

[Thunder Dan]

I need some clarification regarding weekly lineups-- What happens if one of your players gets injured? Are you just screwed the whole damn week? Seems unfair to be penalized for injuries when there are healthy people on your bench you could have rotated out. What about injured players with minor scrapes who don't get put on the DL and just sit out a few games ... are you screwed there?

if they put a guy on the DL you can make a change. I think you can personalize the weekly lineup leagues to allow so many wildcard transactions, but I'm not sure. The league I played in only allowed DL players to be replaced during a week. But a week is nothing in baseball. It's not like you can't make 100 transactions, you just can't use the guys in your lineup until you set it on Monday. So you have be solid and you can't have a bunch of nitch guys like daily leagues. Like Michael Bourn for me was good at stealing bases, and that is about it. If I was up in SB's and needed Home Runs in a Daily League you would bench him and put in a power guy, but in a weekly league you can't do it.

[alamo50]

You are the most annoying asshole I ever had to meet.
I can just keep repeating myself over and over again, but it makes no sense as you are completely in your own lil' retarded world.

I realy hope to meet you in San Antonio next time I'm there man.
You do not cuss me out like this and get away with it.

You started this shit. Now you will deal with it.
Remember it well so you don't wake up and ask me what that was for.

I won't comment in this thread again.
I will comment in a different way another time.

[whottt]

You are the most annoying asshole I ever had to meet.
I can just keep repeating myself over and over again, but it makes no sense as you are completely in your own lil' retarded world.

I realy hope to meet you in San Antonio next time I'm there man.
You do not cuss me out like this and get away with it.

You started this shit. Now you will deal with it.
Remember it well so you don't wake up and ask me what that was for.

I won't comment in this thread again.
I will comment in a different way another time.

Whatever...you do just that. Winner.

[Melmart1]

if they put a guy on the DL you can make a change. I think you can personalize the weekly lineup leagues to allow so many wildcard transactions, but I'm not sure. The league I played in only allowed DL players to be replaced during a week. But a week is nothing in baseball. It's not like you can't make 100 transactions, you just can't use the guys in your lineup until you set it on Monday. So you have be solid and you can't have a bunch of nitch guys like daily leagues. Like Michael Bourn for me was good at stealing bases, and that is about it. If I was up in SB's and needed Home Runs in a Daily League you would bench him and put in a power guy, but in a weekly league you can't do it.

Well, that certainly makes you need to pay attention to your draft more. However, it also seems to take a lot of strategy out of the weekly matchups. Not sure I really like giving up the roster management/chess match aspect. I would be interested to see what the rest of the league says.

[FromWayDowntown]

For those of you awaiting payment -- and, yes, alamo, I have gotten each of your PM's on that issue -- here's the deal.

I hadn't looked at my paypal account since payments were initially made. As it turns out, there was 1 payment that was never made to the league. I could take some time to try to figure out who the delinquent is, but I don't have any real means (other than trying to guilt the non-payor into making a payment) to enforce that obligation. In addition, whether you know it or not, paypal extracts a certain percentage of the funds that each owner provided to cover its costs. Thus, while each of you paid in $25, what I got $23.97 into that account. This was true last year, too, and I just took the difference out of my 2nd place prize; this year, since I didn't finish in the money, I don't have that option.

Since I believe that each of the prize-winners should receive the full prize to which he is entitled, I am depositing my own funds into the paypal account to make up the difference. Unfortunately, the transfer from my bank account into the paypal account is taking a couple of days to process. I don't know why that's true, I just know that it is true.

Since I didn't discover this discrepancy until Tuesday evening, the transfer hasn't happened yet. As soon as it does, I'll remit the prize-winners payments. Until that happens, please bear with me.

[Melmart1]

I double checked to make sure that I was not the one missing payment. But My PayPal history says I paid April 6. So I am in the clear.

[alamo50]

Always nice to know if a PM has been received.....thanks!

You are the commish this year, so if this is your solution to this unbelievable problem than that's that. No need to transfer more than $100 to make sure I actualy get $100.

Although you don't care to find out who is the one who didn't pay (I got a strong suspicion, but it's not for me to say), I care to say that my PayPal payment was done April 6th too.

Is there a chance for a complete shiny trophy though?

[FromWayDowntown]

Yeah, and I never suggested that you were the delinquent, Alamo. What is true is that my solutions (I think) are to either cut the prizes, which I suspect would piss off the winners, or to put in my own money to make up the difference, which strikes me as the better solution. I could out the culprit, but I doubt that I could make the culprit pay up, so an outing wouldn't really get anything done.

I don't know if the disbursements I make via Paypal would come with a fee extracted or not, but I was never going to add additional money to anticipate that difference.

I think this is a fun and viable league and I'll be happy to serve as the commissioner again next season if the group wants that. I'll apologize for my relatively absentee efforts this season; I lost my Internet access during the workday for a period of time that coincided almost exactly with my wedding this summer, and spent very little time online for about 2 months. That will not happen again.

I'd suggest that those who intend to play next season - and I'll officially state my hope that whottt will be among them, recent frustrations aside - keep up the discussion of rules tweaks and such for next season. The discussion that followed last season was actually very useful to setting up this year's league.

[alamo50]

It never crossed my mind that you would think of me beng the delinquent.
Why wouldn't you start the small investigation and confront the one who's payment hasn't been received? There could be a perfectly explainable reason that the effort was made, but the money just never arrived (wrong PayPal address?).
But once again, it's completely up to you as long as the price winners get their correct total price money.

Congratulations on getting married over the summer and looking forward to a more active involvement from everybody who will be in the league next year.

[Thunder Dan]

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who didn't pay and it's not me, but I have a pretty good idea who

[slayermin]

I don't use paypal much but here is what I found regarding their fees.

"Free when the money comes from PayPal balance or bank account.

2.9% + $0.30 USD
when the money comes from a debit or credit card or PayPal Credit
(the sender decides who pays this fee)."

Did my payment charge you a fee? Maybe someone who knows more about paypal can enlighten us about how their fees work.

[duncan228]

...my wedding this summer...

Congrats FWD! I wish you all the best. :toast

[whottt]

Hmmm....I'm not really sure what to do about the no-pay...whatever you guys decide on that is ok by me.


On the paypal fees, I've got no problem with you deducting those fees from the winnings or getting us to pay them upfront when we send them in.



On the weekly roster....I'm not in favor of those. I don't even like doing it that way in fantasy hoops. If anyone wants to adjust their roster weekly they can certainly do that. You have the possibility to set your lineup for every day of the week in one day, it's not that complicated.

Baseball is a nightly game, not a weekly game so I will cast a strong nay vote for going to weekly. And I again point out you really can do it weekly under the current system with little or no penalty should you want to do so...you just fill out your lineup for the week in one day, will take you about 5-10 minutes to do it.



On roster limits during the regular season, I will go with the will of the league on that one. I was mainly concerned with the post season.

And thanks FWDT, I will be back :smokin



And congrats on getting married as well :tu

[whottt]

Also FWDT, let me know if you need my paypal info. You might have it from previous years but since I didn't send you any money this year(timvp sent it with his payment from some of my d-league winnings) you might not have it and that account activity thing on paypal is flakey.


I also will bring up this solution in the event you can't get the final payment, we just split it 4 ways between you and the three prize winners...comes out to 6.25 apiece that way and it seems fair to me. Everyone else would have to agree with that though.


I don't know who didn't send their money I just know we almost didn't have a league this year due to not being able to get enough gm's so I'm not that worried about it.

[ATRAIN]

I don't use paypal much but here is what I found regarding their fees.

"Free when the money comes from PayPal balance or bank account.

2.9% + $0.30 USD
when the money comes from a debit or credit card or PayPal Credit
(the sender decides who pays this fee)."

Did my payment charge you a fee? Maybe someone who knows more about paypal can enlighten us about how their fees work.

This is true unless FWD has a business account and then he will get deducted a percentage all the time. FWD you might want to look into that. It has been my experience for those who send you money via credit card, they deduct a percentage but if its from a bank account no money is deducted (unless the receiver has a business account.)

That sucks that someone didnt pay, I say just deduct the winnings from Alamo hehehe, j/k. I dont need to be paid out and you can just keep my winnings for next years entry fee :).

[whottt]

Looking at the roster of owners...assuming it wasn't a prize winner, whoever didn't pay is either Dan or someone who has been in the league in other years and if Dan says he paid then whoever it is, they must have paid in the other years. They probably just forgot. If they do refuse to pay I'm not into haggling over it....just whatever everyone decides that it is fair.

[ATRAIN]

Looking at the roster of owners...assuming it wasn't a prize winner, whoever didn't pay is either Dan or someone who has been in the league in other years and if Dan says he paid then whoever it is, they must have paid in the other years. They probably just forgot. If they do refuse to pay I'm not into haggling over it....just whatever everyone decides that it is fair.

Other than Dan everyone played last year right? If so im sure they just forgot.

[Thunder Dan]

Looking at the roster of owners...assuming it wasn't a prize winner, whoever didn't pay is either Dan or someone who has been in the league in other years and if Dan says he paid then whoever it is, they must have paid in the other years. They probably just forgot. If they do refuse to pay I'm not into haggling over it....just whatever everyone decides that it is fair.

I paid. See FWD's post #192 in this thread where it states:


So far, I have payments from:

tim"The Hammer"vp
whot"the hammer"tt
Mel"the Hammer"mart1
and FW "The Hammer" D
Thunder "The Hammer" Dan
"The Hammer" alamo50

I'm saying it's The Truth seeing as he didn't pay early, and quit the league halfway through the year

[Thunder Dan]

Noted Payers:
Me
Whott
Mel
FWD
Alamo

Noted Non Payers:
EricB
Slayer
The Truth
Timvp
ATrain

Now let's narrow it down:
Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid

Slayer was active in the league all year, so there is little chance it's him

EricB was active so probably not him

TimVp was active, probably not him. Although maybe he is using his status around these parts as a strong arm to not pay...still probably not him

The Truth quit sometime around May and hasn't shown his face in this thread since. He hasn't even adjusted his lineup in 4 months as he started guys on the DL


how is there any question as to who it is?

[ATRAIN]

I paid so its not me

[Thunder Dan]

WHOTT

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[Thunder Dan]

was Whott on the OJ jury?

[whottt]

Noted Payers:
Me
Whott
Mel
FWD
Alamo

Noted Non Payers:
EricB
Slayer
The Truth
Timvp
ATrain

Now let's narrow it down:
Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid

Slayer was active in the league all year, so there is little chance it's him

EricB was active so probably not him

TimVp was active, probably not him. Although maybe he is using his status around these parts as a strong arm to not pay...still probably not him


If I am paid then timvp paid, because he paid my fee. If timvp didn't pay we'd be short two fees, not one.





The Truth quit sometime around May and hasn't shown his face in this thread since. He hasn't even adjusted his lineup in 4 months as he started guys on the DL


how is there any question as to who it is?


I'm not saying it's not Truth, but everyone on your non-payment list was in the league last year, including Truth. And he stopped managing his team halfway through last season too.

You are probably right that it is him but his absentee ownership doesn't mean anything...you notice it's you and Alamo that drew the conclusion on that basis, and both of you are new to the league this year. He did the exact same thing last year with his team and I assume he paid last year since there was no mention of a non-payee.

The fact that he stopped paying attention doesn't indicate he didn't pay...because he did the exact same thing last year when he did pay.

Dude probably just forgot, assuming it's him.

[Thunder Dan]

If I am paid then timvp paid, because he paid my fee. If timvp didn't pay we'd be short two fees, not one.





I'm not saying it's not Truth, but everyone on your non-payment list was in the league last year, including Truth. And he stopped managing his team halfway through last season too.

You are probably right that it is him but his absentee ownership doesn't mean anything...you notice it's you and Alamo that drew the conclusion on that basis, and both of you are new to the league this year. He did the exact same thing last year with his team and I assume he paid last year since there was no mention of a non-payee.


Dude probably just forgot....

It's not my non payment list, it's FWD's. You can narrow the list down, and looks like you have further taking TimVP off it. So it's either Eric, Slayer, Atrain, or Truth.....logic says it's the guy who quit and hasn't come back since

I shouldn't even give a shit. I paid and I don't want an extra $25 to leave the US economy to be shipped over to the Europeans. So I'd be willing to forgive the non payer in honor of Obama and the state of the US economy. But that is just me. It's not like Alamo even picked his own team, a computer did.

[Thunder Dan]

alls I know is if the Netherlands or Holland or whatever the hell they want to go by this year had a economic crisis and ran out of wooden shoes and tulips, I wouldn't make a big deal and force them to send $25 over to America. But that is because I'm classy and have a heart.

[ATRAIN]

Noted Payers:


Now let's narrow it down:
Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid



Here you go Sherlock holmes so next time you call me "stupid" get your fucking facts straight.

Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #0DU31023MJ2939049)

Sent to:

Amount sent:
-$25.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$25.00 USD

Date:
Apr. 20, 2009
Time:
08:41:51 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
Note:
Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
Shipping Address:
No Address Provided

Funding Type:
PayPal Funds
Funding Source:
$25.00 USD - PayPal Account

[Thunder Dan]

Here you go Sherlock holmes so next time you call me "stupid" get your fucking facts straight.

Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #0DU31023MJ2939049)

Sent to:
Jack Mehoffer
Email:
ail]

Amount sent:
-$25.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$25.00 USD

Date:
Apr. 20, 2009
Time:
08:41:51 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
Note:
Fantasy Baseball Fees for Atrain
Shipping Address:
No Address Provided

Funding Type:
PayPal Funds
Funding Source:
$25.00 USD - PayPal Account

I said you were either stupid or you paid, then narrowed it down to you paid. Don't get your panties ruffled, called train of thought analysis and it's one of the first things we learn here at Police Academy.

[whottt]

Noted Payers:
Me
Whott
Mel
FWD
Alamo

Noted Non Payers:
EricB
Slayer
The Truth
Timvp
ATrain

Now let's narrow it down:
Atrain either paid or is extremely stupid because he is expecting payment for the computer's 3rd place finish. I say he paid

Slayer was active in the league all year, so there is little chance it's him

EricB was active so probably not him

TimVp was active, probably not him. Although maybe he is using his status around these parts as a strong arm to not pay...still probably not him

The Truth quit sometime around May and hasn't shown his face in this thread since. He hasn't even adjusted his lineup in 4 months as he started guys on the DL


how is there any question as to who it is?


It's not my non payment list, it's FWD's. You can narrow the list down, and looks like you have further taking TimVP off it. So it's either Eric, Slayer, Atrain, or Truth.....logic says it's the guy who quit and hasn't come back since

I shouldn't even give a shit. I paid and I don't want an extra $25 to leave the US economy to be shipped over to the Europeans. So I'd be willing to forgive the non payer in honor of Obama and the state of the US economy. But that is just me. It's not like Alamo even picked his own team, a computer did.



You logic is unsound, you act like this league didn't exist before you joined it in making your assumption that it was Truth. As I said, Truth was a member last year and did the exact same thing with his team.


I see why you are making the conclusion you are making, but there is another conclusion you overlook....the basis that he was one of the last two to join and joined right before the deadline when we were not going to have a league.


You want logic? How do you like my logic in concluding Alamo also thinks it was Truth though he never stated who or why?

The logic is simple, he referred to Truth as a Tanker several times this season.


It's very easy to see the logic you are using and the assumption you are basing it on...


Where you fail though is this, EricB has been a non-payee in a fantasy sport on this forum before(and not because he is tight, he just forgot), that is why I do no automatically paint with your brush.


Furthermore, for all I know the non-payee is me and FWDT mistook Timvp's payment for mine.


I don't know, so I'm not going to assume to know.


I'll just say this, the logic you are using for why he is the no pay is not sound and is ignorant of past mgmt history, whether you turn out to be right or not.

[Thunder Dan]

So that leaves: EricB, Slayer, and TheTruth

[ATRAIN]

I said you were either stupid or you paid, then narrowed it down to you paid. Don't get your panties ruffled, called train of thought analysis and it's one of the first things we learn here at Police Academy.

Yeah you narrowed it down but still clicked submit when posting this, so you were just trying to call me stupid but oh yeah I think he paid, get the fuck out of here. If you really thought I paid you wouldnt have typed out that stupid smart ass comment.

[Thunder Dan]

You logic is unsound, you act like this league didn't exist before you joined it in making your assumption that it was Truth. As I said, Truth was a member last year and did the exact same thing with his team.

I think my logic is pretty sound, and each time we get to cross someone off the list, it's never Truth. We have narrowed the list down to 3 and he is still on it. That is what you have to do in Police work, you narrow the list of suspects down. We were able to cross off everyone except those 3.

And what does it matter if the league existed before me? I've proven my honesty and commitment while one of the 3 veterans you think is so great hasn't as they have either a)quit halfway through the year or b)didn't pay. Stop putting them on a pedestal because they were here before me. Jimmy Carter was President before Reagan and Carter sucked, it took Ron to come in and clean up everyone's mess. This is no different as I am playing the role of Ron Reagan and I'm asking people to "Just Say No" to cheating the league and "Say Yes" to integrity

[Thunder Dan]

Yeah you narrowed it down but still clicked submit when posting this, so you were just trying to call me stupid but oh yeah I think he paid, get the fuck out of here. If you really thought I paid you wouldnt have typed out that stupid smart ass comment.

I was joking. Saying you would have to be really stupid to come in here wanting paid for 3rd place if you were the one who didn't pay. How can you get so upset over that? It's the truth, if you didn't pay, and actually did that, you would have to be stupid

[whottt]

And what does it matter if the league existed before me?


Because the history of the league clearly proves that him ceasing to manage his team halfway through the season doesn't mean he didn't pay, which is the major basis for your assumption.

Witchhunter.





I've proven my honesty

You've also proven you can shoot off your mouth in ignorance...see your comments made on draft night.





and commitment while one of the 3 veterans you think is so great hasn't as they have either a)quit halfway through the year or b)didn't pay.

Who is saying he's great? I'm just saying I don't know 100% he's not the one who paid. You make that judgement on an oversimplified judgement that history would prove is indicative of nothing, you think you're smart for doing it that way, I don't.








Stop putting them on a pedestal because they were here before me. Jimmy Carter was President before Reagan and Carter sucked, it took Ron to come in and clean up everyone's mess. This is no different as I am playing the role of Ron Reagan and I'm asking people to "Just Say No" to cheating the league and "Say Yes" to integrity


Dumbass...I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal because they were here before you, I'm saying that we've never had a non-payee before and everyone on the non-payee list has been a member of this league before...and obviously paid then.

That is the point.

[ATRAIN]

I was joking. Saying you would have to be really stupid to come in here wanting paid for 3rd place if you were the one who didn't pay. How can you get so upset over that? It's the truth, if you didn't pay, and actually did that, you would have to be stupid

I guess I took it the wrong way but I understand what you were saying. Either way ill leave it at that and I showed me proof. There really is no way to point fingers, if everyone posts what I did that could help FWD find out who paid what faster.

[Thunder Dan]

I guess I took it the wrong way but I understand what you were saying. Either way ill leave it at that and I showed me proof. There really is no way to point fingers, if everyone posts what I did that could help FWD find out who paid what faster.


I was actually calling you non-stupid in your defense, saying that nobody could be that dumb to not pay then come expecting to be paid for 3rd place. I posted that as a way of taking your name off the list. I wasn't calling you stupid as I don't know you

[Thunder Dan]

Dumbass...I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal because they were here before you, I'm saying that we've never had a non-payee before and everyone on the non-payee list has been a member of this league before...and obviously paid then.

That is the point.

alls I know is that if you pay your taxes in 2008, it doesn't mean you are guaranteed to pay your taxes in 2009, 2010, 2011. Him paying last year is what we call an independent variable in the science world. Him paying last year has no affect on future years. It's what the French call the "What have you done for me lately" phenomenon.

[whottt]

alls I know is that if you pay your taxes in 2008, it doesn't mean you are guaranteed to pay your taxes in 2009, 2010, 2011. Him paying last year is what we call an independent variable in the science world. Him paying last year has no affect on future years. It's what the French call the "What have you done for me lately" phenomenon.

That's fine but the fact that he quit managing his team halfway through the season isn't a sound fact upon which to make that conclusion, because as I said, he did the exact same thing last year and he evidentally paid, so the fact that he stopped managing his team halfway through the season doesn't mean he didn't pay and is easily debunked by history.

Not sound logic...

[Thunder Dan]

it's like if I murder a school boy today before I go home, and get arrested, all my friends and family will say in my defense that I was such a great guy and would never do that. You would hear the terms "he was completely normal" and things like that as they wouldn't believe I did that. But anyone can appear to be normal and do wrong stuff, look at OJ. OJ posed as a football player and actor before he started murdering people.

It's the same thing. I know you don't want to admit your friend may have no paid, but it's like a famous lawyer once said: if the glove fits you must send him to jail for the rest of his life

[Thunder Dan]

and whott, whenever someone says "all I know is" or "alls I know is", expecially the latter, what will follow will be ridiculously stupid. That is a preface for stupid comments that make no sense

just a life tip

[whottt]

it's like if I murder a school boy today before I go home, and get arrested, all my friends and family will say in my defense that I was such a great guy and would never do that. You would hear the terms "he was completely normal" and things like that as they wouldn't believe I did that. But anyone can appear to be normal and do wrong stuff, look at OJ. OJ posed as a football player and actor before he started murdering people.

It's the same thing. I know you don't want to admit your friend may have no paid, but it's like a famous lawyer once said: if the glove fits you must send him to jail for the rest of his life

Hey...you're the guy that convicts the innocent in an attempt to ensure the guilty do not go free...in doing so you become a criminal yourself.


I'm not going to use your shitty logic(which again, is easily debunked by history) to convict.

Just sayin'.

[Thunder Dan]

Hey...you're the guy that convicts the innocent in an attempt to ensure the guilty do not go free...in doing so you become a criminal yourself.


I'm not going to use your shitty logic(which again, is easily debunked by history) to convict.

Just sayin'.

yeah and you probably think OJ wouldn't kill anyone because he had a great game against the Raiders

[whottt]

yeah and you probably think OJ wouldn't kill anyone because he had a great game against the Raiders

No...I just wouldn't convict him automatically because he was a black man.


And because he played for a team I didn't like.


:smokin

[Thunder Dan]

No...I just wouldn't convict him automatically because he was a black man.


:smokin

yeah but there was Nicole's blood in his Bronco! You are trying to turn this into a matter of Truth's character, just like Cochran did with Mark Furman. I'm not going to stand for it. The Truth has blood in his Bronco and you are trying to be Al Cowlings. This isn't right

[whottt]

Also this...I myself have had it assumed before that I was a non-payee when in fact I wasn't...and I got a little upset. Perhaps that has something to do with my reaction...



Beyond all that...the only character issues I've had in this league were with Alamo and that was due to history and the fact that he insinuated that I somehow did something stupid to cost myself the title and could no come up with sufficent proof that I would have won the title had I done something differently.


But anyway, you are funny and I get it...I'm just not funny, at least not intentionally.

[Melmart1]

The male ego really is a fragile thing, isn't it? :rolleyes

BTW, not trying to speak for FWD, but he seems like a private man and I doubt he would want his real name and email addy plastered on these pages. Perhaps Atrain and Dan could edit that out?

[ATRAIN]

The male ego really is a fragile thing, isn't it? :rolleyes

BTW, not trying to speak for FWD, but he seems like a private man and I doubt he would want his real name and email addy plastered on these pages. Perhaps Atrain and Dan could edit that out?

edited, dan if you could please.

[slayermin]

Hmmm....I'm not really sure what to do about the no-pay...whatever you guys decide on that is ok by me.


On the paypal fees, I've got no problem with you deducting those fees from the winnings or getting us to pay them upfront when we send them in.



On the weekly roster....I'm not in favor of those. I don't even like doing it that way in fantasy hoops. If anyone wants to adjust their roster weekly they can certainly do that. You have the possibility to set your lineup for every day of the week in one day, it's not that complicated.

Baseball is a nightly game, not a weekly game so I will cast a strong nay vote for going to weekly. And I again point out you really can do it weekly under the current system with little or no penalty should you want to do so...you just fill out your lineup for the week in one day, will take you about 5-10 minutes to do it.



On roster limits during the regular season, I will go with the will of the league on that one. I was mainly concerned with the post season.

And thanks FWDT, I will be back :smokin



And congrats on getting married as well :tu

I agree with whottt on all his points. In particular, I detest weekly rosters. The best teams don't necessarily win in weekly leagues, imo. It all comes down to injuries.

Also, FWD confirmed that he received my funds so it's not me.

Thanks FWD for everything. Until next year everyone.

[whottt]

Weekly. It all comes down to injuries.



That's my major problem with it too...when Ichiro hits the DL for the first time in like 15 years when you draft him, or David Wright gets beaned in the head is on the DL for the first time ever and he was your top draft pick, you learn to be concerned about stuff like tha

[ATRAIN]

That's my major problem with it too...when Ichiro hits the DL for the first time in like 15 years when you draft him, or David Wright gets beaned in the head is on the DL for the first time ever and he was your top draft pick, you learn to be concerned about stuff like tha

Weekly sucks so I vote no for weekly.

[alamo50]

Since the payment still hasn't been made, I want $50 to be paid to timvp for the Basketball Dynasty League 1 fee and $50 to me at the PayPal account I pm'ed you several weeks ago.

[ATRAIN]

Since the payment still hasn't been made, I want $100 to be paid to timvp for the Basketball Dynasty League 1 fee for me and 1 for Atrain :)

fixed it for you :)


Alamo looks like im going to take over that team.

[Thunder Dan]

guess who is in the Basketball Dynasty League 1 starting this season,.........

[whottt]

Which teams did you guys take over?


I know guru is one the guys that left...


Incidentally, Truth is in that league and has been in last or second to last place the past two years..no history of non-payment that I know of. He's in the other league as well and has been for 4 years and actually has won it before IIRC...

The logic really was bad, whether you're right or not.

[ATRAIN]

Im taking over Guru of Nothing's team

[whottt]

Im taking over Guru of Nothing's team

It's weird because I would have sworn you were already in that league...there's some team in there with a train name I think.

[whottt]

So off the top of my head, the roster of D-league 1 is this:


Melmart
Timvp
Me
Alamo
EricB
Spurminator
ShoogarBear
BaselineBum
RuffNReady
ErikS
P<S
AggieHoopsFan
Truth
J-6
ATrain
ThunderDan
Horryfor3
FWDT


I guess that's about right. Guru left but I'm not sure who the other guy who left was.

[ATRAIN]

It's weird because I would have sworn you were already in that league...there's some team in there with a train name I think.

Really thats odd and nope im a rook in fantasy basketball (sorta). I tried it a few years ago but no one in the league cared to I stopped playing. How does the scoring work?

[whottt]

Really thats odd and nope im a rook in fantasy basketball (sorta). I tried it a few years ago but no one in the league cared to I stopped playing. How does the scoring work?

It's a point system based on a weekly average and the rosters are set weekly. I Will take you a week or so to get the hang of it probably. One of the more complicated systems that I have seen but it works well enough.

These leagues are extremely competitive....and if you win you have to cut your roster down to 5 players.

[Thunder Dan]

who won that league last year? I need to know who I'm going to knock off

[whottt]

Dan welcome to an entirely new world of the waiver btw...there are no limits in these leagues, they aren't needed, because these waiver wires are thin.

[Thunder Dan]

Dan welcome to an entirely new world of the waiver btw...there are no limits in these leagues, they aren't needed, because these waiver wires are thin.

I tailor my style to the system and settings. I'm not a waiver whore like you make me out to be.

[whottt]

who won that league last year? I need to know who I'm going to knock off

timvp won both leagues last year, including repeating in league 1. I was runner up in league 2.


League 1 was won in no large part due to timvp being aided by someone making the brilliant decision to cut Ramon Sessions who put up huge numbers during the playoff run......I wonder if timvp thanked them for the dough. :rolleyes


The roster cutdowns are brutal in these leagues...but just so you know, it's been proven you can repeat and win back to back and even sweep both leagues. timvp has done most of that proving....ErikS has done the rest.

[ATRAIN]

It's a point system based on a weekly average and the rosters are set weekly. I Will take you a week or so to get the hang of it probably. One of the more complicated systems that I have seen but it works well enough.

These leagues are extremely competitive....and if you win you have to cut your roster down to 5 players.

I know its a keeper system being a dynasty and all so how many do you get to keep? What are the position slots? Is it 1 Center, 1 PF, 1 SF, 1 SG, 1 PG??

[ATRAIN]

I think we should start making our baseball league a 1 or 2 person keeper league, that would be interesting.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm worried about taking over a quitter's team. Obviously if they have quit the league their team must suck....that is where my incredible GM skills will have to come into play

[whottt]

I know its a keeper system being a dynasty and all so how many do you get to keep? What are the position slots? Is it 1 Center, 1 PF, 1 SF, 1 SG, 1 PG??



champ to gets to keep 5 players, runner up gets to keep 6, quarterfinalist get to keep 8 other playoff teams keep 10, everyone else gets to keep 12 I believe.


You have two rosters, one an active roster of NBA players and the other is a roster of prospects who are either playing in highschool, college, the dleague's or Europe.


You got a 3 man bench and the active spots are 2 C, 4 F, 4 G and I think two utlility players. You start 12, have 3 bench spots, two IR spots and a 10 man d-league roster.

You d-league(development league) players do not have to be cut unless they become active NBA players.

[whottt]

Past winners of leage 1 are...

Shyne(who I think quit and Dan now has his team)...he quit a couple of years ago but I'm pretty sure Dan's got his team, either that or Melmart's got it.
FWDT
Timvp
Timvp


Timvp I believe had made 3 consecutive finals in league 1....and FWDT's cinderella team was the only one that stopped him.

[whottt]

I tailor my style to the system and settings. I'm not a waiver whore like you make me out to be.


Funny I just looked up waiverwire whore in the dictionary and they had a picture of some guy in a, "property of Dan Majerle" t-shirt...

What are the odds?

In any case, I don't care if you are of if you aren't...I don't have any problems with people using the waiver wire, I just don't like it when the guy with the shitty pitching staff can destroy the pitching staff of another by streaming pitchers in the playoffs.

:lmao you want to see waiver wire moves? The first year of this league timpv and I dropped our entire pitching staffs nightly during the post season...I mean like 10 moves a night a piece :lmao. I dropped all my closers and everything.


I think I had like 200 moves that first year with about 70 of them coming in 1 round of the playoffs.


I beat his scrub pitching ass in that first round but unfortunately I had nothing left in the next round and the other players not embroiled in a waiver wire battle were picking up my pitching staff off the wire at their leisure and building up superhuman pitching staffs that were not beatable even by streaming.

Eff that crap...I had no problem with people exploiting the loophole while it was there, I would have done the same, but it didn't need to be there any longer.

[Thunder Dan]

do I have Lebron James on my team?

[whottt]

do I have Lebron James on my team?

I doubt it...Ruff had him in league 1 and I don't think he's retiring. You don't have Chris Paul or Dwight Howard either.

Whose team do you inherit?


A-Train got Guru's team which means he's got TMac, Shaq, Dirk, Deron Williams...among others.